Tiers until the end of time

[runningpink]

Quickly putting this up as last thread is full

Did all the legal stuff kill the thread?

Could be guilty as charged . Got my full nerd on y'day. Also complete anorak on Ra Constitution - won't bore the masses cos according to BBC Scotland the "expert in the field" from Callie Uni says there is nothing to see here.

I think we need a tighter definition of "expert" and I may even be coming round to the Gove position. Ugly mud slinging just about sums up the whole thing.

Completely agree speedtalker. My friend's whole family tested positive for Covid back end of last year. She is NHS and therefore vaccinated. Her wee one went back to nursery on Monday and now back home self-isolating due to a positive "case" in her nursery bubble. This will be her 5th self-isolation. In the meantime her DM will be going to her work in the hospital as normal.

Someone / lots of people need a reality check.

My neighbour has family in Belgium. She was talking to them earlier in the week. None of them have been vaxxed but the town centres are back to normal and the Govt has a new scheme to encourage everyone back onto the trains. Noticeable and highly suspect that the MSM have stopped reporting what is going on elsewhere.

@OldRailer

I also got sidetracked into the Rangers case that has ended in so much compensation.

I am ashamed to say I had zoned out on that. No clue it even happened

Me too!

Blackford would have burst a facial blood vessel or ten in haste to craw over BJ, or any other senior Westminster figures going through the equivalent of the Sturgeon/Salmond conflict.
Note the silence and no comment from BJ about the sorry state of affairs here. I’m sure Rees Mogg is bursting to gloat, but the silence they’ve maintained over this sorry state of affairs needs to be remembered by landowner Blackford next time he’s claiming to represent Scotland and harping on about independence.
Just so sad and shameful to see Scotland represented globally in this way, with the prospect of a talentless lacky standing in if NS does have to resign. With the prospect of victory in May because folk still don’t grasp what’s broken after 13 years and then marching on for independence. Sigh. It’s all too depressing to think about.

I saw a huge vaccination centre in Brussels empty on the news yesterday. It’s a fear of the Astra vaccine a doctor said, even some of his medical colleagues are not having it. Saw also President Macron said he will have it when it’s his turn. Belgium has a very high %pop who have died.

Also missed out that the person in charge of the centre said they don’t have enough vaccines. Also Germany have 1million sitting to be used. Same programme news.

I love this thread. But the human rights chat made my brain implode

Apologies @hilbil21 I’m afraid I didn’t help that situation - one of those days yesterday.

@Coquohvan

I saw a huge vaccination centre in Brussels empty on the news yesterday. It’s a fear of the Astra vaccine a doctor said, even some of his medical colleagues are not having it. Saw also President Macron said he will have it when it’s his turn. Belgium has a very high %pop who have died.

I saw that- wasn’t that centre lovely too, faux plants and styled up like a lifestyle store! It was so bizarre to see it so empty.

(On the same report the French health minister with his shirt hanging off, as he received the vaccine- I really CAN NOT imagine Matt Hancock or Jason Leitch giving the same kind of display for the press)

@Jellycatspyjamas

Apologies *@hilbil21* I’m afraid I didn’t help that situation - one of those days yesterday.

Ah no need to apologise. I just stopped reading lol.

Same hilbil! I thought I was going mad. I just couldn't understand the argument that as long as we have one tiny little bit of a right remaining, to be exercised in a very restrictive way as approved by the government, that was the same as not having had our rights taken away at all... The "yes, we have had our rights taken, but it could be considered to be proportionate, given we are where we are" argument makes much more sense to me. At some point (which we may or may not have passed) it will become disproportionate, though. Presumably that'll be when the courts decide that it is, following a challenge?

Please no Jason with his shirt off 🤦‍♀️🤣

Today's stats

581 people have tested positive for Covid-19, which is 3.3% of the total number of tests carried out.

There are 924 patients in hospital with a confirmed case (down 43), with 80 being treated in intensive care (down nine).
27 new deaths have been registered in the last 24 hours

What are the current rules around children mixing with others in the garden?

I know you can watch other kids as part of childcare but could you have two/three different families kids round for a play in the garden at same time and 100% not for childcare reasons?

@runningpink I think if they are under 12 you can have up to six outside. But only if there is an R in the month and Venus is in retrograde from Saturn possibly.

It gets more confusing if you throw one 12 year old into the mix.

A friend of a friend works in Home Bargains and 9 staff members have tested positive. When I was in HB last week it was rammed so I’m not surprised. But the reason it’s rammed is because all the other shops where folk go for bits and bobs are shut.

I’m pleased to say that our local vaccination centre is always busy when I drive past and DP getting his today!

Personally we're downright encouraging DS14 to play football outside with his friends, as are all the other parents I know.
Their main problem at the minute is keeping the game small. Police tend not to bother if there is 8 or less of them, but they're all so keen to get out that the minute there's a whiff of a game, then they all want to be involved.
I think from mid March this is legal again, but I'm beyond caring. DCs need some face to face interaction. I've spent the last 8 years or so encouraging him to spend more time outside playing with his pals, and less in front of a computer. We're going to look back on the fact that DCs were banned from playing outside with incredulity in future- once the childhood obesity crisis from lockdown hits full swing.

rookiemere- totally agree. I understand there's a tiny chance of transmission outside. The benefits from exercise (and obesity being a big risk factor of suffering worse from covid) should mean we should encouraging as much sport as possible outside. For every age group (and not just professional footballers).

@WouldBeGood

I’m pleased to say that our local vaccination centre is always busy when I drive past and DP getting his today!

That's good ours was shut for 10 days and only reopened yesterday!

Numbers are good today!

I'm keen to see the local vaccination numbers, will be checking Travelling Tabby later.

@Jellycatspyjamas I enjoyed your comments yesterday and found the discussion really interesting. I agreed with what you and @statisticallychallenged said. However was at work and the thread moved too quickly to say so.

Glad that Mark Woolhouse (one of the Scottish government advisors) has come out and said that an elimination strategy isn't the best route and very difficult to obtain without serious effects to economy and other aspects of health!

For once the journalists questions were based on challenging the data and also highlighted that the Scottish government were using the WHO tiers but not using the same positivity test information!

Thank goodness that someone has come out and said elimination isn't the best route.
Surely it's common sense that it won't work?

@dancemom thanks for the data it’s going down especially general hospitalisations.

Oh yes @Bytheloch saw him, nice tan too.