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Just in tiers with it all now ....

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dancemom · 18/02/2021 11:34

New Thread, same old situation....

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StarryEyeSurprise · 23/02/2021 13:00

I get what you're saying - Where I live, I can be in GCC, ED or NL within 5 minutes. That's just an anomaly of this area. Having different restrictions in different areas makes sense - The Highlands are the size of Belgium! They had a fair amount of outbreaks post Christmas but seem to have really settled down so I think it would make sense * if the cases are low, that restrictions could possibly be eased there sooner.

Bytheloch · 23/02/2021 13:04

Self catering is open over the Easter holidays in England- it covers the second week of spring break (from 12/04) for most scottish schools. I know this as I’ve booked- not for a holiday- but to see (vaccinated) relatives, two of which I haven’t seen in over a year. The full leisure and hospitality industry won’t be open in any meaningful way (in England) but if they deliver on the roadmap, it’s enough for people to visit relatives/friends by then.
Think Nicola needs to match that at least and enable those travelling down south to feel able to do so.

rogueantimatter · 23/02/2021 13:16

Hmm JL on the news now saying unlocking will be about families first? We'll see.

My DS is back to his practical music course in London on March 8th. Hurrah. I'm so pleased for him. Some of his Scottish friends who have had no in person teaching this year and face more lonely months before their time at university fizzles out in May are struggling.

My thoughts are very much with everyone here struggling in horribly stressful circumstances.

Jellycatspyjamas · 23/02/2021 13:29

You can't address poverty related inequality through healthcare and education. Not entirely sure why people think you can.

You can however address the issues that keep people in poverty, eg disability, poor mental health, substance misuse and caring provision all of which are under the control of the Scottish Government.

If we had decent support for people with disabilities, supported teachers to teach and provided decent social work and social care services instead of expecting schools to be a one stop shop. Our drugs deaths are incredible but even before that addiction services are poorly funded and provision is sketchy. Assessment for children with additional support needs is a fight from start to finish, and then getting good child centred support is nigh on impossible.

Mental health services are dreadful particularly if you need anything other than CBT, there’s little access to good, long term, trauma informed therapeutic support.

All of this sits well within the devolved powers and would help people out of poverty. People wouldn’t need to stop working to care for children with disabilities, or for vulnerable adults, their mental health would improve allowing them to access the job market and sustain employment, the fall out from substance misuse would significantly lessen, children in care would have much better outcomes.

Health and education might not fix all the issues, but they’d go a very long way to addressing inequality. The Scottish government have form for being quite blinkered, not listening to professionals and over engineering/micro managing just about every area of public/private life. They don’t use their existing powers well, why would we want to give them more.

Rae36 · 23/02/2021 13:41

Hmm JL on the news now saying unlocking will be about families first? We'll see

I am desperate to see my mum and dad but I'm even more desperate to get my 9 yr old back to school. If we don't get a date for that today I am honestly giving up.

WannaCapybara · 23/02/2021 14:08

I don't want your really interesting post to go unnoticed @Jellycatspyjamas

I don't know much about the topics you are clearly very informed about, but I wanted to say thanks for giving us the information.

I'm struggling with my May vote so I'm happy to see all the information I can get my hands on.

WannaCapybara · 23/02/2021 14:09

Statement just began (bit earlier than billed) if anyone is tuning in

rogueantimatter · 23/02/2021 14:11

Number of new cases down from yesterday.

Fandangoes · 23/02/2021 14:16

can somebody please tell Nicola that 'doze' is a nap!

anon444877 · 23/02/2021 14:17

ooooh jelly 100 percent agree. The CAMHS wait list so long - and so many friends who've had poor support for their DC with ASN.

in Edinburgh, housing costs are a key poverty driver, so a programme of brownfield site building, repurposing office space etc - anything that drives down housing costs and increases supply would be a huge winner.

Bytheloch · 23/02/2021 14:20

The end of April. Fooks sake.

theotherfossilsister · 23/02/2021 14:22

Oh Bugger.

Coconut80 · 23/02/2021 14:22

2 more months of this shit, no way

Rae36 · 23/02/2021 14:24

Did she really just say that the rest of primary school can (hopefully) go back on the 15th March? I think I heard that, someone please tell me I heard right.

SymbollocksInteractionism · 23/02/2021 14:24

Aaaargh!! There seems to be no end to this pish!!

WannaCapybara · 23/02/2021 14:24

No, it's not nothing until end of April. It's a gradual lifting leading up to the end of April, by which everyone on the JCVI list will be vaccinated.

Primary - 15th March
Household mixing etc being discussed but I'm a bit fuzzy on the details as my boss selfishly phoned Grin

IsurviveonCoffeeandWinein2021 · 23/02/2021 14:25

What a fucking shitshow. We might if we are lucky get to level 3 in another 2 fucking months

OldRailer · 23/02/2021 14:26

No news on Secondary?

dancemom · 23/02/2021 14:26

Ffs wait another 2 months and you might get to move to Level 3 with enhanced restrictions 🤦🏻‍♀️

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Fandangoes · 23/02/2021 14:26

partial school learning from 15/03 for secondary

IsurviveonCoffeeandWinein2021 · 23/02/2021 14:27

@OldRailer aye they can go back on Easter fucking Monday 😂 what a joke

WannaCapybara · 23/02/2021 14:27

I'd imagine we'd then get three weeks at Level 3 while they wait to see the impact.

theotherfossilsister · 23/02/2021 14:28

Being allowed to see others outside from 15th will make a difference though, I guess. I'd like to see friends for a picnic.

We have a Scottish Holiday booked in late May, wondering if we'll be allowed to go, or whether Edinburgh will be stuck into tier three and not allowed to go anywhere, because not enough of us voted SNP.

WannaCapybara · 23/02/2021 14:30

15th of what @theotherfossilsister my concentration wandered...

dancemom · 23/02/2021 14:30

From 15 March the rest of primary pupils will return with senior phase secondary begin to return on a part time basis. Also 4 people from 2 households can meet outside.

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