Just in tiers with it all now ....

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New Thread, same old situation....

What do people think of the reference in Boris' plan to considering covid status passports (or something like that) with requirement to prove negative test / vaccination for certain things? I hope that won't be too broad, at least not for vaccination; I can't currently have the vaccine (pregnant) and would be gutted if, say, you had to be vaccinated to go into a pub or cafe!

@ProvisionallyAnxious travel maybe?

We'll all be free by the 21st of June. Sparking any mental variant I'm certain that that roughly the date.

Not sure about international travel but everything else will be a goer.

@kurtrussellsbeard woohoo!! I’m excited

My holiday to England is booked to go hug my mum from end of June!
SG elimination strategy can go sod itself I'm having a hug!

We've got a three household family holiday booked - rescheduled for the third time - for 26th june in the Lake District.

If the English rules allow it, we'll be there and will find a way to get over the border regardless of what the Scottish restrictions are at that point in time.

Edinburgh will no doubt end up in a high tier even though our numbers didn’t merit it before. I just want my children to get back to school on 15 March. Praying that will be announced tomorrow.

Why tiers again.

The whole of England are moving together

@icanboogieboogiewoogie

Never has the high number of cases in the Glasgow area been investigated, or if it has, it certainly wasn't explained. Believe me, I've been looking. Detailed analysis of every tiny outbreak elsewhere in the country. Nothing for Glasgow but banning us from seeing family, banning us from going for a coffee, banning us from even leaving the fucking place. Masks, masks, fucking masks. I can't see my colleagues faces. I can't understand or make myself understood by the children I teach. I'm so fucking sick of breathing my own moist air all over my own face. And now other countries (the whole country - not just chosen regions) are getting out and Nicola is still being fucking cautious. I have absolutely had enough.

It's as simple as this .....population size and density.

Teirs were a disaster that didn't work.

If Glasgow is so bad it would make more sense to focus the vaccine roll out on Glasgow and the west as nothing they have actually done has brought numbers down.

People in Glasgow and the west have as much right to a life and freedom as any other area.

Just thinking of tonight's press conference Whitty really needs to find his clicker 'next slide please' and Boris's hair was wilder than normal or was that just me

@ProvisionallyAnxious

What do people think of the reference in Boris' plan to considering covid status passports (or something like that) with requirement to prove negative test / vaccination for certain things? I hope that won't be too broad, at least not for vaccination; I can't currently have the vaccine (pregnant) and would be gutted if, say, you had to be vaccinated to go into a pub or cafe!

I don't think vaccine passports will be required at a casual level going for dinner.

More likely for other countries to allow you to visit, possibly something travel insurance companies will ask, adjust premiums appropriately.
Possibly be required for some jobs, like care homes, hospitals staff and advisable for other increased risk jobs like waste water workers.

@rookiemere I have a holiday in England booked for the first week of July. I am already planning smashing through any barriers at the border.

@StarryEyeSurprise

Sootess what do Wales and Scotland have in common that no other countries in the world have?

A history of major industry which then goes bust leaving high unemployment and few other options due to geographical difficulties, under investment and poor public health targeting?!

@Scottishskifun Correct. And who historically caused these industries to collapse and is responsible for the underfunding? Yes that's right your not so friendly Tory overlords. You could include the North of England in that too.

21st June for all restrictions to end in England...that wouldn't have anything to do with the Euros starting on the same date, by any chance? And 7 games, including the final, due to be played at Wembley?
I think the UK strategy is a wee bit high risk, when it pulls dates out of it's arse that coincide with the football.
Glasgow and Clyde NHS have set up more symptomatic testing sites and are finally getting onto testing waste water to locate areas of concern.

[quote kurtrussellsbeard]@Scottishskifun Correct. And who historically caused these industries to collapse and is responsible for the underfunding? Yes that's right your not so friendly Tory overlords. You could include the North of England in that too.

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I'm not a Tory supporter, devolution has existed for a while though and although inherited issues still there seems to be little to tackle the social and health issues in these areas.

I have mostly praised NS approach throughout last summer til the tier system and then it made zero sense as they didn't follow what they had produced. I watched my DH every day struggling to advise businesses on covid changes as they made statements then didn't release the guidance. Do you know when the SG released guidelines for Xmas grottos, santa runs etc for the whole of Scotland..... The 14th of December!

So now I'm fed up with the elimination approach, lack of information all I want from the SG is full focus on vaccinations, a pandemic, economic recovery not a sodding election so they can go for a referendum again.

I hope that they are working late into the night to adjust whatever they had planned adjusted so that Scottish people can get some normality back but I'm not holding my breath.

Rant over.

Now now @Scottishskifun, surely you know by now that you cannot be a unionist* without also being a Tory. Them's the rules.

*unionist = anyone not wholly wedded to indy, anyone criticising the Scottish Government, SNP, Sturgeon...

Yoon is the word, I believe. 😂

I don't think you're a Tory. Didn't say that anywhere. They're my Tory overlords too. 🤷🏻‍♀️

1997. More progress should have been made but honestly I don't see how that could be possible without complete control. Scotland, Wales and the North has been systematically defunded and decimated since the 60s. Maybe before but my (limited) knowledge only goes back as far as then.

@icanboogieboogiewoogie agree that there's been so little communication around sharing what the authorities know about transmission. I fill in the gaps with asking around,!
There have been hours worth of talk from the podiums with little meat in it.

@WouldBeGood

Yoon is the word, I believe. 😂

😂 Had to Google that one doric I can manage after over a decade even got myself up to the intermediate level ye ken 😂

@StatisticallyChallenged @WouldBeGood

I've never used any of these terms and nor have I ever dismissed folk in such a simplistic way.

Nearly a quarter of a century is quite a while to try to help improve things to me when in charge of social and health but maybe that's just me!

I was told on here that yoon is not perjorative..

Yes..they’ve been in charge of things circa long time to be blaming others

@WouldBeGood not by me.

@Scottishskifun not really, sadly. You can't address poverty related inequality through healthcare and education. Not entirely sure why people think you can.