New Fred. It nearly ended in tiers.

[Cismyfatarse]

Sorry. Lost track of what was proposed. Hope this will do.

which university is it that wants to vaccinate everyone over the summer? How are they going to get their hands on the vaccine anyway? Is the SG planning something?

It's not the uni itself running vaccinating clinics, it's NHS Scotland, the uni finds & books appropriate spaces in its estate and gets staff/students booked in. There's nothing concrete yet, this is, from what I've heard, at the stage of tentative plans in order to be ready when called on. Wouldn't you rather that big employers are thinking now about how to make it as easy as possible when supplies are ready? They're not queue jumping or anything. The expectation is that all UK adults will be offered first dose by end of summer.

It sounded as though it was something they were arranging themselves but if it's part of an NHS/SG plan for all universities then that's good

It certainly makes sense for it to be done on uni campuses. It would also make sense to have pop up vaccine centres in big industrial estates.

I got the impression that this is more of a "big employer" thing rather than uni specific. Industrial estates would also be smart Lockdownbear, basically anything that makes it easy for younger working age adults to get vaccinated.

jabba I sure hope the SG is actively planning this stage of the vaccinations, as others have commented, the younger you go the harder it is to get people through the door. My info is entirely second hand and internal to the university (came up in convo about room booking), so I don't know if they're preparing off their own bat or if they've been asked. I'm assuming the latter, it's unusual for university administration to be quite that on the ball, but who knows, these are strange times!

I suppose one other thing about Unis, many of them have medical / nursing students.

Aberdeen uni used their medical students to help with the Covid tests before Christmas.
Which means they could do the same with the vaccine, get the medical students to do the injections. They need to learn anyway.

I think young people will go as they’ve been scared - dd is terrified as a fit 29 year old 🤷🏻‍♀️

On the alcohol thing, I’m a raging alkie with a big car. So will just drive to England 😃

good point about medical students. gives them experience.

Both my parents jagged today. Immediately my DF seems to think he's all sorted and canny get it anymore. Says he doesn't need his mask. Arrrrgh.

Has anything been mentioned about educational catch up in Scotland? I was just reading the article about proposed solutions in England - details all to be worked out, but mostly I was glad to see that they are acknowledging that there will be developmental delays to children as well as educational ones from extended periods where they were unable to socialise, and seem determined to properly address the issue.

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us I'm not sure England is doing very much at all, it's the typical Boris rhetoric big on sound bite with no practical suggestions i.e. extra money, on how it can be achieved.

Still I agree to an extent like the first time round, whilst he addressed it woefully he did at least acknowledge that DCs should be in school and educational gaps are a bad thing.

England have appointed an Education Recovery Commissioner and allocated a £300 million tutorial fund according to the government website

www.gov.uk/government/news/new-commissioner-appointed-to-oversee-education-catch-up

He’s a former teacher and adviser to Labour on education.

It might all be smoke and mirrors but at least it’s acknowledging the huge problem

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us

Has anything been mentioned about educational catch up in Scotland? I was just reading the article about proposed solutions in England - details all to be worked out, but mostly I was glad to see that they are acknowledging that there will be developmental delays to children as well as educational ones from extended periods where they were unable to socialise, and seem determined to properly address the issue.

I was speaking to a headteacher the other day, she is head of a small school (I think she said they had 61 kids overall).

She said when they all come back after the first lockdown, only 3 kids hadn't kept pace as expected educationally, and these were the kids who weren't engaged with home learning. She said quite a few had taken a big jump forward as they thrived on one-to-one attention at home. The rest were where they were expected to be.

She said the main thing was that the kids had all lost social skills, and the teaching staff were spending a lot of time fielding playground arguments -their resilience and independent problem-solving skills were lacking.

Dunno where I'm going with that really Just thought it was interesting.

She said the main thing was that the kids had all lost social skills, and the teaching staff were spending a lot of time fielding playground arguments -their resilience and independent problem-solving skills were lacking.

I can well believe that, my 4yo has lost some social skills I think and is far quicker to cry / shout than he used to be. He was pretty easy going before.

That kind of fits with our experience @IncludeWomenInTheSequel. We are kind of middle class so can help our P2 with the work on an educational level, provide resources and make sure he does it etc. and I don't think he's personally fallen behind, but we're seeing negative changes in terms of communication skills and emotional resilience. The English plan may well be smoke and mirrors, but I have to say I was impressed that there is a real push to tackle the issue and I don't remember seeing a similar plan up here.

My sons HT said before Christmas the vast majority of kids had caught up and support was in place for those who hadn't.

But then I think primary kids should catch up just the way the primaries work but I agree that social skills will need developing.

But catching up deals with the bottom of the class it doesn't help those kids in the middle who've slipped from the top to the middle.

But how on earth are secondary kids who haven't engaged ever going to catch up, other than taking the long road?

Sorry @Y0uCann0tBeSer10us and @WouldBeGood - I didn't realise that British Government had actually put some money into the scheme - certainly wouldn't have garnered that from any of the English teaching threads about it .

I don't think DS is behind as such, but if this goes on much longer he won't achieve the grades he is capable of as putting in the bare minimum whereas last term in school , there seemed to be great camaraderie about studying and doing well. I agree for him it's the social aspect that's needed. If we could go back to the 6 or so teens together outside playing football, he could limp along with online learning a bit more easily.

@rookiemere yes to the camaraderie. That’s what DS needs too. We’re fortunate though that he’s not in exam years.

I really think they just need schools in full time for all as the vaccines are catching up.

@WouldBeGood DS is in S3 so not exam year either , so he should have time to pull it back in S4 hopefully, provided next year's education is not impacted .
I actually think what SG is doing right now is reasonably sensible, provided it proceeds at a reasonable pace. Get some year groups in and see what happens to the numbers, then repeat with some more.Trouble is numbers down but sticking around the 1000 level because they refuse to address what's happening is localised to Glasgow mostly.
I hope by Easter they do what they did in Autumn and just chuck em all back in. At least this time there's a vaccine.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/08/how-can-we-have-the-holiday-of-a-lifetime-this-year-here-is-my-modest-proposal?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

This description of holidaying in U.K. and Scotland in particular made me laugh (in a somewhat despairing way 😀)

I was shocked into stopping reading when it said that centre parcs was charging £7000 a week for an executive lodge in August WTF

@goodname love that 😂😂

@Lockdownbear

My sons HT said before Christmas the vast majority of kids had caught up and support was in place for those who hadn't.

But then I think primary kids should catch up just the way the primaries work but I agree that social skills will need developing.

But catching up deals with the bottom of the class it doesn't help those kids in the middle who've slipped from the top to the middle.

But how on earth are secondary kids who haven't engaged ever going to catch up, other than taking the long road?

Please be aware that in schools, weekly information is sent to HT re who's fully, mostly or not at all completing work. Steps are then taken to support families who need it whether it be time in school, paper folders or other steps.

The class I got in August were further ahead than the class I had the previous year.

Also, the 'nearly on track ' children receive additional support and will continue to.

It's not been said here but has elsewhere- people saying children have 'missed a year'. Really annoys me- no they haven't!

And I wouldn't worry too much what England are planning. Plans for Scotland's recovery will be ongoing, they're just not in the MSM. Millions have and will be spent here too.