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New Fred. It nearly ended in tiers.

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Cismyfatarse · 04/02/2021 21:39

Sorry. Lost track of what was proposed. Hope this will do.

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StarryEyeSurprise · 08/02/2021 18:29

@goodname

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/08/how-can-we-have-the-holiday-of-a-lifetime-this-year-here-is-my-modest-proposal?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other This description of holidaying in U.K. and Scotland in particular made me laugh (in a somewhat despairing way 😀)
Ha ha, they've always been extortionate! We saw them last time we were there. I think you'd have to be mad or too rich to care!
NCnotAllThat · 08/02/2021 18:34

I find this such an interesting thread to follow - thank you all.

I agree re primary schools (I’ve no knowledge for secondary but imagine quite different issues at play there). I think some children will need “caught up” but as seems to be experienced here it’s more the social, emotional, resilience, etc etc etc side that had dipped. My own 7yr old is much more clingy to me and queries where I’m going if I have to leave the house without him. They need to just be in school (when save of course) In order to work on all those skills again. I know there was a big push regarding all this when they returned in August (over academics) which I fully agreed with. I’d imagine it will be similar this time around. I actually think this time has taken more of a toil on my child than the spring lockdown. My youngest seems to have faired better vit is in her pre-school year and just needs to work in socialisation skills etc prior to starting school. She’s missed so much or nursery (due to birth date she’d only started in January so hardly anytime before lockdown). It makes me so sad when I think of how much time my eldest has at nursery to grown and develop whereas my youngest has missed out (I know all her peers are in sake boat of course). Govt wise what I’d like to see is them fund more teacher assistants. I don’t think they’ll ever fund more than 1 teacher per class (generally) but they cut the number of teacher assistances down hugely the last few years. If the SG finance anything I’d like it to be this so that the teacher can work in smaller groups and the ta can do small groups and 1-2-1. It feels from what I can gather than ta are only available for identified children right now (which is right and I support this of course and believe they only get funding for the ta due to identified needs of individual children) but the rest of the class have no one extra to assist when the teacher is busy. I’d like an additional adult in each class for at least some of the week. I think that would help with all the emotional side also.

Drinking - I’ll raise my hand to being a statistic here. I was tee total for 8 years (pregnancy breastfeeding and no social life!) however I started sharing the odd bottle off wine with DH during first lockdown and it’s continued and increased to a few a week. So I’m drinking more than before although not got a problem as such it’s become a habit and I do need to tackle that. So I do agree lockdowns have increases people’s use of alcohol. However, I’d like to think the increases supermarket alcohol purchase have been considers alongside fact that restaurants and bars are closed as surely a high proportion of the increase is down to this! I do think Scotland in general terms has a very poor alcohol outlook and we need a cultural change really. I’m not convince more minimum pricing and limiting purchases is the way to achieve this. As pp have said people will go to multiple shops or on booze runs to England is close enough etc etc. I think something needs done but more at a underlying level rather than hitting the pockets. An increase in mental health care availability would be a good start.

For the vaccinations in the under 50s I agree I think uptake will reduce but think it will still be quite high given the fear factor and the fact that this age group is likely to have been impacted directly (thinking more furlough, children out of school, job losses, pensions destroyed...not implying any worse than any other age group but certainly enough that they’ll consider getting vaccination). I actually am getting quite annoyed at all govt that no plan is in place regarding other priority groups after the over 50s. I don’t think it should then go to a blanket “free for all call and see who gets appointment first” situation. I think there are those at higher risk who should be prioritised still over the general population I’m specifically thinking of the police as have friends in the force and they are in close contact with numerous people and well they aren’t always the nicest of people so they’re not always wearing masks themselves and it’s not unheard of to be spat at etc etc. Then obviously shop workers, factory workers, etc etc etc... basically anyone who cannot keep away from other people when they are doing their job. I feel they are all more in need of the vaccine than day someone like my DH who is wfh or indeed myself who only goes to supermarket and on school run (or will!). Of course it’s a hard one to actually manage as everyone has different perspectives on how “risky” something so it would be difficult to
do in a fair way. I do think it needs to be looked at a bit more though. I’d like to see vaccinators going into big factories, shops, police, fire, numerous other places I haven’t though of and just getting them jagged en masse rather than having people need to go via their own gp (then obviously sweep up clinics for those missed and vac clinics for the rest of population too).

NCnotAllThat · 08/02/2021 18:40

Please excuse all the typos above Blush

anon444877 · 08/02/2021 18:42

Trust the invisible hand of govt? I'd rather there was a communicated plan though. Where would we be without the spotlight on vaccine rollout?

I do agree though that several friends who've phoned to ask for help from school have been helped this lockdown unlike last time. Not much evidence of anything proactive though in either lockdown so some kids will have been missed.

Backsliding in independence and social skills for the dc - how can they not have really? That's a huge challenge for the teacher because some dc have had one adult's attention for more of the day than they've ever had before.

anon444877 · 08/02/2021 18:45

I've got some anecdata - a friend went for a teaching assistant job recently, and over 70 applicants for the job, so clearly some potential there to increase help staff in some locations.

Lockdownbear · 08/02/2021 19:01

I don't know that the SG are daft enough to limit how much alcohol an individual can buy. More looking at reducing the numbers in multi packs but people aren't daft if they want 16 beers they'll buy 16 beers.

StatisticallyChallenged · 08/02/2021 19:03

I think the extent to which kids are behind will vary a lot with area. Where I grew up and where my family are, I cannot believe that every kid is keeping up.

WaxOnFeckOff · 08/02/2021 19:06

@Lockdownbear

I don't know that the SG are daft enough to limit how much alcohol an individual can buy. More looking at reducing the numbers in multi packs but people aren't daft if they want 16 beers they'll buy 16 beers.
I can't get over that they think it's their fucking business tbh.
kurtrussellsbeard · 08/02/2021 19:09

Alcohol and cigarettes should be their business as much as other dangerous substances are. It's just harder to control and people get arsey about it because they love a drink. I can't blame them for at least making an effort to deal with Scotland's unhealthy relationship with alcohol. How they do that I don't know though.

WaxOnFeckOff · 08/02/2021 19:15

They've already put in measures with minimum pricing/times when you can't buy it, there should be more focus on treatment for those needing it rather than blanket measures that affect folk that don't have issues imo.

The vast majority of people have a perfectly healthy relationship with alcohol. People need to be taught how to control themselves rather than us all being treated like children and the government being our parents.

Maybe they should go and sort out the drugs deaths?

goodname · 08/02/2021 19:20

Yeah one of my relatives had a job as a teaching asssitant and now work in a sandwich shop as there were so many job cuts. Another relative who has been a TA for decades says she doesn’t enjoy her job anymore and it gets harder every year as it’s only about controlling very bad/difficult behaviour and no helping children to read as it was when she started

goodname · 08/02/2021 19:22

And our school has been spectacularly unhelpful when I’ve asked for help. They just don’t see how impossible the work they set is for a very dyslexic child. He is ten, he cannot sit and work his way though 49 pages of maths examples and teach himself. His head doesn’t work that way. They should know that as he’s had the same teacher for two years now but frankly they don’t care as they are too busy supporting their own children as far as I can see. I am just giving up now and we’ll see if they do anything about it or even notice

kurtrussellsbeard · 08/02/2021 19:23

The vast majority of people don't have a clue what a unit is never mind how many they should be safely consuming a week. We have a hugely unhealthy relationship with alcohol and don't even know it. We should be consuming no more than 14 units a week and a bottle of wine is 10.

People can only be educated if they want to change and I don't think most do because 1. They don't think they drink too much and 2. Scotland has such an established binge drinking culture because that we're used to it.

Clearly government information is suggesting that alcohol is playing a part in the spread of Covid through house parties and what not.

If they say back and did nothing people would be furious as well.

kurtrussellsbeard · 08/02/2021 19:25

@goodname I really sympathise with you. Supporting my dyslexic students has been a real worry for me. It's much much harder online. Nothing I've found can replace sitting with a child and walking them through it until they get it. Breaks my heart.

WaxOnFeckOff · 08/02/2021 19:27

Hope you are speaking for yourself their kurt as I'm not part of the "we" :o

I wonder if we'll need a breath test before we can be allowed to vote?

anon444877 · 08/02/2021 19:29

Tend to find that the solution to so many addictions is in part making people's lives better and addressing what caused them to get on that path (hellooo lockdown) and that's a lot harder than alcohol restrictions and posters about going for walks or taking up guitar.

So much of policy is driven by quick wins and cheap hits.

The biggest driver of child poverty isn't food prices, it's housing costs in most cities.

kurtrussellsbeard · 08/02/2021 19:31

We as a nation. Of course I cannot speak for you or indeed any other complete stranger. I'm pretty sure I didn't suggest anywhere in my post that you specifically had an issue with alcohol.

StatisticallyChallenged · 08/02/2021 19:32

@anon444877

Tend to find that the solution to so many addictions is in part making people's lives better and addressing what caused them to get on that path (hellooo lockdown) and that's a lot harder than alcohol restrictions and posters about going for walks or taking up guitar.

So much of policy is driven by quick wins and cheap hits.

The biggest driver of child poverty isn't food prices, it's housing costs in most cities.

Agree, you don't solve problem drinking by banning it - you find the root causes and tackle them. Plenty of countries with cheaper alcohol don't have the issues found here.
goodname · 08/02/2021 19:33

Well I wish you were his teacher @kurtrussellsbeard as his current one couldn’t care less. She’s made no effort to understand how hard it is for him, he has a plan in place from learning support about getting extra time and using laptop etc but it is never carried out. I honestly think she thinks he is just awkward and lazy. It’s got so bad he’s having migraines and stomach pains before school as he’s so scared about going in and being made to feel stupid. She also doesn’t seem to understand it affects maths as well as literacy as all the strategies and words used in maths these days seem very confusing to the dyslexic brain 😭

goodname · 08/02/2021 19:36

Sorry for the rant, I’m feeling a tad frustrated today

WaxOnFeckOff · 08/02/2021 19:37

@kurtrussellsbeard

We as a nation. Of course I cannot speak for you or indeed any other complete stranger. I'm pretty sure I didn't suggest anywhere in my post that you specifically had an issue with alcohol.
Okay.....
kurtrussellsbeard · 08/02/2021 19:37

That's the thing about dyslexia as well it can present in so many ways and it isn't always the processing of written word that's affected. Horrible. What a shame.

anon444877 · 08/02/2021 19:46

Migraines and stomach pains? Your poor ds goodname.

kurtrussellsbeard · 08/02/2021 19:48

@goodname could you raise it with the HT?

NCnotAllThat · 08/02/2021 19:58

@kurtrussellsbeard I agree with what you said re alcohol and us as a nation. I’ll use myself again as an example... I‘m fairly well educated and could easily check my units but haven’t because I never felt my 1-2 bottles (shared with dh so on average perhaps 4 bottles max a week together he has bigger share than me) were an issue as they aren’t impacting our lives at all but then I think actually it must be over the recommended units and it is unhealthy. I also didn’t consider it “much” because when we put our glass recycling out ours is very empty compared to most of our neighbours. A rather crude assessment but sort of illustrates that the point that our culture is very drink heavy. (I’m going to try to
cut down now again as use to not drink at all Blush)

I still don’t think controlling what is bought or anymore pricing control is the way forward but alcohol is basically a drug with the ability to cause harm. And there is a massive issue with this substance in our society. Look at what will happen when the pubs reopen, whats happening in peoples homes currently. I think as a nation we have terrible relationship with alcohol in my opinion (yes I’m aware a significant majority of people have a good relationship with alcohol but as a society overall it’s quite poor).

I’ll admit I never considered that the changes related to trying to reduced alcohol at illegal house-parties and social gatherings in people’s homes. I just don’t think pricing and/or minimum package sizes would have any significant impact on that at all.

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