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If the SNP win a referendum on Scottish independence, what do you think the criteria will be for moving there and getting a Scottish passport?

253 replies

Kendodd · 24/01/2021 12:24

I'm English, live in England but love Scotland. If they became independent I would definitely want to move there if at all possible (if they let me). What do you think the rules would be for moving there and citizenship?

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tanstaafl · 24/01/2021 12:34

I’d imagine Scotland would welcome people so long as they have a trade or job.

As a small nation they’d need people working to raise taxes?

Not sure if it matters why you’d be moving from England or Ecuador to be honest.

StarryEyeSurprise · 24/01/2021 13:15

Ah you've made my heart sing this morning. Was also just reading that a few decades ago, people in Estonia would never have thought it could or would be independent and now it is a hugely successful independent country.

Anyway, I digress.

  1. Buy a house / move here
  2. You're Scottish

:)

HijabiVenus · 24/01/2021 14:30

Look at coming up now. Well, not right now its a bit chilly. Come up as soon as its allowed and sound us out. We dont bite.

Kendodd · 24/01/2021 14:36

Not sure if it matters why you’d be moving from England or Ecuador to be honest.

I imagined they'd have some sort of common travel zone between Scotland and the rest of Britain, a bit like the UK and Ireland, at least to begin with. I wonder if they could offer Scottish citizenship to all British citizens resident in the UK with the condition they file a tax return in Scotland and pay appropriate taxes, a bit like Americans? If they were independent, especially as EU members, I would really love to live there. Admittedly, a great deal of the motivation is to get away from England and what were becoming. Sad

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Kendodd · 24/01/2021 15:11

My children are all in secondary school at the moment and I wouldn't want to uproot them now. I wonder if we could start trying to plant a foothold though? If I bought a house in Scotland the only way I could afford to do it would be buying something really cheap as a buy to let or holiday rental, both of which I also have some ethical issues with that would make me uncomfortable. I also live just about the furthest point from Scotland you can get.

Anyway, can anyone suggest a really, really cheap but nice place to first get a toe into Scotland?

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Beenaboutabit · 24/01/2021 15:13

Same rules as EU if Scotland rejoins the EU

Throughhistory · 24/01/2021 15:22

As a second home, you do realise you'd be paying a much higher rate of stamp duty don't you?

Beenaboutabit · 24/01/2021 15:24

Really really cheap places... Isle of Bute / Rothesay
Unlike many of the more famous islands, this one's a 35-minute ferry and less than a 1-hour drive or train from Glasgow so very accessible. It used to be the holiday destination for Glaswegians before cheap air travel and has an air of faded Victorian grandeur. Terrible place to live if you're looking for employment but beautiful views and cheap as chips for property

CoronaIsWatching · 24/01/2021 15:45

No way would the EU let Scotland join and England would probably be better off if Scotland left the union. I don't know what they're playing at up there but none of it makes sense.

Kendodd · 24/01/2021 15:55

As a second home, you do realise you'd be paying a much higher rate of stamp duty don't you?

Yes, and rightly so.

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Kendodd · 24/01/2021 16:11

Anyone know anything about Campbeltown?

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donewithitalltodayandxmas · 24/01/2021 16:45

Why would england and scotland allow special circumstances between each other. Why should wither get special treatment.
Also scotland can't join eu straightway even if was a yes would take a few years as would two countries breaking away.
I would hope if they have independance scotland is treated like any other country as thats only fair, and thats what independence is.

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 24/01/2021 16:49

You do realise that even if scotland can join the eu it won't happen straight away and also a break up wouldn't happen overnight, but of you plan to move whats wrong with the scottish education, if you wait until your children leave school , what if they don't wish to join you as adults?
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kamalasshaman · 24/01/2021 16:51

@Kendodd would not advise buy to let in Rothesay or Campbeltown, there's a reason those houses are cheap

Kendodd · 24/01/2021 16:53

Nothings wrong with the Scottish education system it's just that my children are in the middle of gcse courses. If they didn't want to join me as adults, well, they'd be adults, they wouldn't need to join me.

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kurtrussellsbeard · 24/01/2021 16:57

@CoronaIsWatching 🤣 hilarious. Any evidence to back any of that up?

MoltenLasagne · 24/01/2021 16:58

I love Scotland but if there was a second independence referendum and they voted to leave the union I don't think they'd welcome a load of English moving there. Around/after the last one there was a distinct anti-English sentiment when I travelled up for work and I didn't feel welcome. Luckily that did seem to fade but I imagine it'll all come back if there's a second one.

Amortentia · 24/01/2021 16:58

@Kendodd

Anyone know anything about Campbeltown?
Yes, it’s a bugger to travel to.
unlimiteddilutingjuice · 24/01/2021 16:59

Im involved in Scottish politics (albeit in a very junior way).
My predictions are:

  1. Common Travel Area with rest of UK and ROI
  2. Rejoin EU so would allow immigration from EEA
  3. We'd be subject to the Geneva Convention so we'd still accept asylum seekers, obviously
  4. I'd expect us to be a bit more gererous with things like family settlement, working visa's etc.... to reflect the fact that we're currently underpopulated.
We'd possibly have some kind of preferential scheme for people wanting to make a life in more rural areas.

I think we'd do away with the hostile environment so things like the right to work, study and claim benefits would be less strictly based on immigration status.

ZiggZagg · 24/01/2021 17:05

I'm banking on my Scottish Grandad Grin

EvelynBeatrice · 24/01/2021 17:05

Suspect they will welcome any taxpayer. Less than half the existing Scottish population of 5.5 million pay tax at all and only 8per cent or so pay higher rate tax (and remember tax rates are already higher here). The Scottish economy will lose existing access to England’s tax take which is a huge loss. I’m always staggered when I remember that there are over 9 million people in Greater London alone, so Scotland’s tax base is comparatively tiny. Immigration will be essential I’d think.

Travelledtheworld · 24/01/2021 17:10

Criteria.
EU citizen
Be born in Scotland
Married to or Civil partner or children of a parent born in Scotland.
Possess Specific work skills

ElectraBlue · 24/01/2021 17:23

I have and EU passport as well as a British one so I hope that would help. I want to potentially retire there.

StarryEyeSurprise · 24/01/2021 17:24

Actually, Scotland's already seeing a big influx from down south. It's normal so I wouldn't worry about anti English sentiment * we know you're likely to despise Johnson as much as we do. I wouldn't go for the places you've mentioned. Just come up on a holiday pnce allowed. EvelynBeatrice- less than half pay tax?! Biggest pile of nonsense I've ever heard!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 24/01/2021 17:24

@HijabiVenus

Look at coming up now. Well, not right now its a bit chilly. Come up as soon as its allowed and sound us out. We dont bite.
If @Kendodd waits until it stops being a bit chilly, before moving up here, @HijabiVenus, she’ll have about a week in June to do the move before autumn hits. WinkGrin

We have two seasons up here - winter and June. It is a lovely place to live, though - you just need slippers and lots of warm underfugs.