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Tier 4 SE England have come to holiday house

134 replies

Goingdooolally · 21/12/2020 13:52

Near my mum in Edinburgh (who is clinically vulnerable).

I am so upset about this. They have come to their holiday house with their teenage kids from Tier 4 SE.

I don’t know if I’m fixating on this because of my worry for my mum but I am so mad and upset. They are quite selfish people at the best of times.

Help! Tell me I need to get over it.

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Callisto1 · 21/12/2020 14:54

There is very little you can do apart from telling your mum to keep away from them. I suppose you could also report them.

It's very very unlikely that they will infect her, even if they happen to have Covid, by just staying in a neighbouring house. Things are tough at the moment though, so I can understand that what they did really upset you!

anon444877 · 21/12/2020 15:01

It is selfish - I could more understand going to a cottage somewhere in the countryside but coming from a congested area to another congested area, you wonder what people are thinking.

I doubt I'd do anything but I do understand why you and your DM are upset.

MrsRogerLima · 21/12/2020 15:03

If I had a holiday home somewhere remote I would have done the same.

Original poster
Goingdooolally · 21/12/2020 15:03

@MrsRogerLima

If I had a holiday home somewhere remote I would have done the same.
It’s not remote. It’s in Edinburgh
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ShirleyPhallus · 21/12/2020 15:04

Just because they’ve come from tier 4 it doesn’t mean they actually have covid, and unless they’re actually in the same room as your mum it’s very unlikely they’d infect her anyway

Ohdeariedear · 21/12/2020 15:06

I’d phone the police. They might go round and have a chat, but they’ll not send them home. People like this just do what they want.

We could have gone to our holiday house in the highlands but we’ve not because we follow the rules and we also know how pissed off our neighbours would be. Since they are the people we’d hope would give us a ring if they noticed a problem at the house, we don’t want to do that.

LadyLazaruss · 21/12/2020 15:08

I’d phone the police. They might go round and have a chat, but they’ll not send them home.

Sooo what's the point of that then?

Original poster
Goingdooolally · 21/12/2020 15:08

Hi,
It’s the fact of this new strain. My mum has managed mentally over the last 9 months by still going out and about- going for walks and popping to the shops (masked and when it’s quiet). She’s not hidden herself away but had taken sensible precautions. But now I know these people (they’re a big family with teenage kids) will be in the local shop etc... it worries me.

There’s also a history of selfish behaviour from them so it makes me madder. I know they’ll be posting in Facebook about the wonderful time they’re having too. It’s the thoughtlessness and self absorption that makes me so 🤯

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Original poster
Goingdooolally · 21/12/2020 15:09

Yes we’ve a holiday home too and have chosen not to go to it because it’s in a lower tier and we’re not selfish bastards.

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Morgan12 · 21/12/2020 15:17

Don't know why they bothered. What will they do at 00.01 boxing day when we lock down? Pointless journey.

WeAllHaveWings · 21/12/2020 15:18

@ShirleyPhallus

Just because they’ve come from tier 4 it doesn’t mean they actually have covid, and unless they’re actually in the same room as your mum it’s very unlikely they’d infect her anyway
They, and 1000s like them are exactly why we will be having a longer lockdown in January.

They may not come in direct contact with ops mum, but they potentially could spread the new strain in the local area which could make its way back to ops Mum. Maybe I would still have my mum with me if someone further back in the chain of transmission had made the right choice.

SirVixofVixHall · 21/12/2020 15:18

Report them. Stupid behaviour like this costs lives and extends all the restrictions on everyone else

Ohdeariedear · 21/12/2020 15:20

@LadyLazaruss because they need to know that what they are doing is wrong.

Outsidemum1 · 21/12/2020 15:21

Sorry but this is why all our hard work for the last few months will be for nothing. I've not seen family for months as I don't want to risk taking covid to another part of the country.
This is how the second wave started ( people travelling in from other parts of the UK and Spain) and how the third wave will start. I'm beyond angry.
My friend has done the same and she's a teacher in a school which had rampant covid in London and she came up last week ( going via Belfast). My other friend is a test and tracer for NHS Highland and she says they're expecting to see the strains from the SE appear in the North as that's what happened during the Summer ( new strains came up with people coming up to holiday homes). Outbreaks started because of this. I was actually crying on my way to work this morning, so scunnered.

Ohdeariedear · 21/12/2020 15:22

Sorry, I mean they need to be told that what they are doing is wrong. They will already know it’s wrong.

arevioletsreallyblue · 21/12/2020 15:22

My mum has managed mentally over the last 9 months by still going out and about- going for walks and popping to the shops (masked and when it’s quiet)

Don't you think this is how everyone has managed mentally OP? And that with the abrupt plunge into tier 4 this family might've been terrified for their mental health hence decamping. I understand your frustration but the lack of basic empathy, in an almost like for like way, really shocks me here.

Outsidemum1 · 21/12/2020 15:23

*not had rampant covid! Was rampant with covid Angry

arevioletsreallyblue · 21/12/2020 15:26

they're expecting to see the strains from the SE appear in the North

Of bloody course they are. This strain was first detected in SEPTEMBER! Which means it's been around since august most likely. People have been allowed to move between the south and north all this time. This strain is already in the north, no ones bringing it up now, it's already there, just slightly behind on transmission rates so far. But afew extra people moving up isn't going to make the difference. It's already there. It's had the time to come up for months.

LadyLazaruss · 21/12/2020 15:27

[quote Ohdeariedear]@LadyLazaruss because they need to know that what they are doing is wrong.[/quote]
I'm pretty sure they already know that.

LadyLazaruss · 21/12/2020 15:28

Cross post, lol.

Wouldn't the police fine then though? I personally wouldn't call, but I thought they'd do more than just a telling off?

Outsidemum1 · 21/12/2020 15:28

Areviolets We're all going to be in tier 4 and in Scotland we've had stricter restrictions hence much lower covid rates. But by your thinking, we should all have a nice wee holiday if we fancy?Let's all just fly across the country to a city of our liking (!)

tierthreetwoone · 21/12/2020 15:29

Maybe they've tested and self isolated before they arrived?

THisbackwithavengeance · 21/12/2020 15:30

Why does it matter unless your mum actually lives with them?

The virus isn't going to spread like a dust cloud out of their front door into your mum's house.

They own a house in Edinburgh and pay council tax for it so are as entitled to live there as much as your mum is.

tinselearedcow · 21/12/2020 15:32

There will always be some selfish wankers, OP. Try not to let it get you down. Maybe they'll get stopped and fined on the way back.

ilovemydogandMrObama · 21/12/2020 15:33

Tier 4 means they are not supposed to travel, unless for work and am fairly sure that a holiday home isn't work.

Although is there actually a legal basis for Tier 4, and not just, 'advisory?' I didn't know about Tier 4 until yesterday

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