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Tiery Weary & Crackers!

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Bikingbear · 17/12/2020 00:12

As a carry on from the last thread

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GoldenOmber · 20/12/2020 09:29

I can’t even take unpaid/parental leave realistically. DH maybe could but his job is much more precarious than mine. Still it looks like we’ll have to risk that I suppose? I can’t think of any other way.

I would like the government to actually say how this will work. Not just “oh dear yes it is very hard [sadface]”, but practically, step by step: this is my work calendar for those weeks, here are the ages of my DC, please note that the youngest is under 2. How do I do this please? 7am check emails while serving breakfast, next step...?

FourSeasonsTotalLandscaping · 20/12/2020 09:30

This is the last straw for me and has brought me to tears. I did six months with my now four year old at home whilst my husband and I worked from home (him full time and me almost full time) earlier this year. All in one room together all day every day. It was so so bad for all of our mental health. I can't do it again. I just can't.

Tiery Weary & Crackers!
Bikingbear · 20/12/2020 09:30

[quote JamesMoriarty]@Bikingbear but they will be open to keyworker children and that just isn't going to work this time, I know people who got refused a place last time and so many of us need our children in school but aren't classed as keyworkers. They can't prioritise some above others. The extremely vulnerable children category will likely miss children who need it too. I'd have taken 2 days in school over this.[/quote]
Your missing my point. Keyworker hubs work by the teachers running them in schools while online learning.

Blended learning the teachers would be teaching full time in school.
They can't teach face to face, provide online learning for the other half class and run hubs at the same time. 3 into 1 doesn't go!

If schools are running for half the kids. Where are the other half of the keyworker & vulnerable kids? In a hub? Where's the hub and who runs it?
That's why blended learning was never going to work.

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Sweetpotatoaddict · 20/12/2020 09:32

I’m genuinely lost! Why are the schools not opening after the Christmas holidays? I looked at yesterday’s numbers and they were way lower than I’ve seen for weeks. The Scottish government keep saying schools are safe. I’ve watched my ds 6 really thrive at school in the past couple of months. I’m not looking forward to the dismay when he finds out after Christmas that things don’t start back when they should.
I feel completely deflated today, I was looking forward to finishing work yesterday ready to start Christmas prep, before heading back to work on Christmas Day. Instead I’m in my bed feeling completely miserable with my kids watching a movie. I know this is down to me, but I’m never normally like this. I feel broken.

ladylunchalot · 20/12/2020 09:35

@WaxOnFeckOff

Are your staff ill *@ladylunchalot*? What happens when they all catch a cold at the same time or feel a bit fluey?

Appreciate in community nursing, most of your clients are vulnerable, but what happens normally?

Not being funny, that's a genuine question.

Wax, it's the first time it's really happened to be honest. I've been there 5 years and the odd cold has done the rounds but not as quickly as covid has. It's now spread to some of their family members as well, such a shame. They've been working flat out for months, lack of staff, staff illness and increasing workload as gp's are rarely seeing patients - no wonder they are so run down.
Bikingbear · 20/12/2020 09:36

So its basically create a problem but push it onto someone else to deal with. And if people need to give up work, get sacked the average income lowers, therefore we reduce the poverty line. Result.

Covid must have reduced the care home bill. How many less addicts are on the waiting list for rehab and help?

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JamesMoriarty · 20/12/2020 09:36

@Bikingbear I'm not, sorry. My point is I disagree with keyworker status and it should be the same for all children with something in place for vulnerable children. It's just a hypothetical situation obviously, it doesn't matter.

randomsabreuse · 20/12/2020 09:37

I'm not telling my P1 until after Christmas. She will be very sad not to see her friends!

EyelinerRocks · 20/12/2020 09:37

@Sweetpotatoaddict

I’m genuinely lost! Why are the schools not opening after the Christmas holidays? I looked at yesterday’s numbers and they were way lower than I’ve seen for weeks. The Scottish government keep saying schools are safe. I’ve watched my ds 6 really thrive at school in the past couple of months. I’m not looking forward to the dismay when he finds out after Christmas that things don’t start back when they should. I feel completely deflated today, I was looking forward to finishing work yesterday ready to start Christmas prep, before heading back to work on Christmas Day. Instead I’m in my bed feeling completely miserable with my kids watching a movie. I know this is down to me, but I’m never normally like this. I feel broken.
I feel the same I have zero joy for Christmas Day now. Just complete dread of the month ahead with DC on my own And utter dread if this continues longer than the 18th. Like a PP , we had the whole lockdown together with only one living room and tiny garden Not everyone has the luxury of study’s / dining rooms / kids in own bedrooms able to study.

Absolute nightmare

Bytheloch · 20/12/2020 09:44

Slept on it. Still angryXmas Angry

They all made the Christmas rules as four nations, why couldn’t they have undone it together too? A UK strategy that accounted for Scotland’s lower figures? But no. Couldn’t miss a beautiful opportunity to feed the Us V them narrative. Yesterday was all about undoing a previous U.K. agreement of THEIR Christmas arrangement, yet from all parties a horror show of alarmist doom, without any consideration for the mental health of any nation and our great leader acting as though we hadn’t been part of those original arrangements.

Thank you @WaxOnFeckOff for the stats demonstrating how far Scottish councils are actually down the list in the whole of U.K. (shout out for my dirty tier who is almost falling off the bottom of the chart.)
We haven’t been allowed to measure our ‘success’ or move tiers accordingly, so far. Except for yesterday, when it was very important for rUK to know how well we are actually doing.

Dry your eyes love, we know how much of this is strategic. You saved us, we get it.
Put that on the side of a bus in May. if any local bus companies are still in operation

Bytheloch · 20/12/2020 09:54

Oh and as for going back on the school promise, slipping it in at point 4 whilst everyone is too busy reeling at their Christmas being cancelled, don’t think it hasn’t hit hard. Even London schools aren’t going to a blended pish learning model for an arbitrary week. which won’t be just a week
Just another thing to brag about that we’re supposedly doing better?🤔 in the process creating division amoungst parents as to who qualifies as a key worker, so your child is more entitled to an education setting than others🤷‍♀️

Just grimness all round.

GoldenOmber · 20/12/2020 09:58

It isn’t even blended learning for a week, it’s ‘online learning’ for a week. At least a week. After that they ‘hope’ to open schools ‘more fully’, whatever THAT means.

Arkadia · 20/12/2020 09:58

@randomsabreuse, no need to elaborate. Just say that the schools will go back in day X and that's it. If he is aware of the calendar, just say that it has been out back by a week.
The real question is whether the schools will actually reopen... I am not so convinced.

GoldenOmber · 20/12/2020 10:02

I’m not even going to say this isn’t needed. Maybe it is. But if closing schools and nurseries IS needed then working parents and children need more support than we got in Lockdown 1, when it was just “please do multiple things at the same time, even though it’s totally impossible and will break all of you. Now over to the ParentClub website for some offensively useless ‘advice’!”

Bytheloch · 20/12/2020 10:03

@GoldenOmber

It isn’t even blended learning for a week, it’s ‘online learning’ for a week. At least a week. After that they ‘hope’ to open schools ‘more fully’, whatever THAT means.
Exactly, but they call it blended learning as though it’s some great achievement by Scottish Education/Swinneybot. They always wanted the chance to showcase this pish, yesterday gave them a great opportunity to slip it in. pacifies the unions too, ahead of May
makingitupaswegoon · 20/12/2020 10:03

The scottish government has let parents, especially working parents, down again with their promise to keep schools open. Please don't forget come May

WouldBeGood · 20/12/2020 10:04

I think it’s disgraceful this was punted the weekend before Christmas.

And I don’t understand why the schools need to be shut. It’s not boding well.

WouldBeGood · 20/12/2020 10:05

Oh, and the “crying” 🙄

I’d just watched a really good chat by Russell Brand yesterday on the very subject of politicians crying and the motives behind it.

Bytheloch · 20/12/2020 10:07

“I could cry”
Gaslighting pish.

GoldenOmber · 20/12/2020 10:07

No, I mean they’re not even calling it ‘blended learning’. Blended learning seems to have gone totally by the wayside. Until the week after the 18th when I suspect they’ll bring it back rather than bringing schools back.l properly.

sweetkitty · 20/12/2020 10:07

My Dad can get up here Ayrshire to Lanarkshire for Christmas Day - although I don’t know if he will as he was already antsy about it as he thinks Lanarkshire is a hotbed of covid and he’ll catch it as soon as he crosses the border. Then he tells me he’s still popping into loads of peoples houses for coffee/doing odd jobs. 66 with COPD Confused my brother is the same.

So as a teacher I’m totally confused, we are to report back the 6th with no children!!! I think it’s to plan the online learning, 11th only keyworker and vulnerable children due back then 18th everyone else??? I work in Severe and complex needs the last lockdown was beyond tough on our children and parents. No respite of school and clubs. A lot of the children couldn’t access the hub as it wasn’t suitable. They need to be in school. Online learning doesn’t work for our children.

Also feeling it for my own DD1, she’s doing Highers this year N5s we’re cancelled, first she was doing them now they are cancelled, prelims were second week back. Her 2 exam years so far have been so disrupted, have told her not not worry unis will take this all into account.

makingitupaswegoon · 20/12/2020 10:08

@Bikingbear

Read the stuff yesterday and unfortunately in the brave new SNP world of tier 4 informal childcare isn't allowed unless you are employed in essential or permitted services. I read this as no GP providing support.

randomsabreuse · 20/12/2020 10:09

She won't know the date, but will get grumpy due to lack of friend contact, especially once DH is back at work and the exciting new toys are old hat...

GoldenOmber · 20/12/2020 10:10

[quote makingitupaswegoon]@Bikingbear

Read the stuff yesterday and unfortunately in the brave new SNP world of tier 4 informal childcare isn't allowed unless you are employed in essential or permitted services. I read this as no GP providing support.[/quote]
Oh what? They said it WAS allowed this morning!

Arkadia · 20/12/2020 10:12

I imagine the Highland board will be overjoyed to be in tier 4, not to mention the three island boards in tier 3 from tier 1 (and what wasn't tier -5 goodness only knows).