Tiers Of A Clown

[Bytheloch]

Thread #3456

Released from our dirty T4, but still bamboozled. Let’s keep each other sane on here...

Stirling is in tier 3 to stop travelling,, although.

There was outbreaks

Yes but other areas have had outbreaks, look at Clackmannan and Argyll and Bute etc and not been chucked into 4 and then 3 for them. Apart from a brief period, Stirling has been consistently at lower levels than Falkirk. It's like the midlothian thing, if you wait long enough then the figures will go up and justify the level you've given, or you can manipulate those figures by conducting extra testing which has contributed to the issue in Clackmannan.

I guess the point is that there has been no element of fairness applied. So arbitrarily some areas businesses have been unfairly hit with no increased risk of spread than anywhere else.

Sick of the cloak and dagger, lack of transparency, lack of actual proper figures that indicate anything much beyond positive pcr testing.

I agree with you waxonwaxoff we are definitely Level 3 to stop travelling to town its unfair.

@NotAnActualSheep
My experience with DS also (age 6 at time, just turned 7). we tried zoom etc but the large group chats were a disaster (boys just shouted at the screen and didn't listen to each other so DS hated it). So much of their interaction at this age is about physical contact - playing tug, messing about building dens and just being buddies doing stupid stuff together. Going back to school was so important for my DS as was football club moving outdoors. So grateful to the club for trying to keep some normality in the children's world

@Bikingbear

It was a link someone posted on here. I think it was Oxford university.

I can totally get why 7yos were really badly affected. Beside the stuff you mention they are not established on any form of social media. Kids a couple of years older are able to game online, more able to use zoom, what's app etc, kids a few years younger tend to be family focused.

That's interesting. Mine was 7 during lockdown, turned 8 in summer, and he really struggled. He's like a different child since being settled back into school (in a positive way!)

Dinnafesh your 8yo was really lucky. Our school discouraged chat through the Classroom encouraged kids to find another form of communication. I think it might have been they didn't want read hundreds of drivel.

Random that was DSs experience of zoom too they were just desperate to talk and nobody listened. He had a couple of chats with girls which actually seemed to go better. Maybe the girls are that tiny bit more mature.
I count my blessings we were able to splash out on an Xbox, to get him chatting and playing via it.

Reporting back - Glasgow city centre wasn't too bad, Primark was relatively normal although I did have to queue for entry to The Card Factory 🙄
But I've come home unscathed

Yes. I count my blessings every day with our primary. On 3rd DD with gap of 10 years and been great for them all. Pure luck as DH and I didn't even consider catchments when we moved to the area with DD1 as a baby. Not a good on paper area for schools at all and in fact used to have loads of people doing out of catchment requests away from it. In some ways I think it might be so good because of the range of challenges some of the kids present. It also gets quite a lot of extra resource because of that.

Just think it does no harm to sometimes publicise how positive an impact these sorts of things make and how much I appreciate the teachers being so adaptable and able to put themselves in the kids' shoes.

I'm going to be going on an essential trip to Primark at some point, or rather Santa will be desperately need fluffy PJs for my kids and DS is so tall that he's now in men's clothing and nowhere online seems to do reasonably priced, fluffy men's PJs... Leaving everywhere in level 3 with travel restrictions is ridiculous - I'll try to wait till Wednesday next week in the hope there are more changes announced (W. Dun is plummeting down the league of shame and Clydebank would do me nicely for what I'm looking for).

[quote randomstatistics]@NotAnActualSheep
My experience with DS also (age 6 at time, just turned 7). we tried zoom etc but the large group chats were a disaster (boys just shouted at the screen and didn't listen to each other so DS hated it). So much of their interaction at this age is about physical contact - playing tug, messing about building dens and just being buddies doing stupid stuff together. Going back to school was so important for my DS as was football club moving outdoors. So grateful to the club for trying to keep some normality in the children's world[/quote]
Yes, precisely... Zoom was either chaos as you describe with large groups, or like blood out of a stone one to one, with no one talking unless prompted by a game or something, because they don't do "small talk". DS hated the huge array of faces... like everyone was looking at him... or if we had it on speaker view, got freaked out by his own face. We caved and got a PlayStation for him to play fortnite and Minecraft with his friends, and it was amazing... they just talked really naturally... drivel mostly, but happy, fluent drivel which is the best we could hope for.

dancemom the card factory I'd never have predicted a queue there! Glad you survived... now you can put your feet up.

dinnafash I think you're right in that more "diverse" schools are often really, really good. Ours is a mixture of families, but we couldn't really ask for more in terms of its supportiveness and friendliness. And yes, the school has benefitted from the pupil support funding and so on. There are horror stories of children at "better" schools having mountains of homework from early primary, being marked on a traffic light system against their classmates and so on, which I think would be a disaster for us. So our negligent approach to catchment choice may not have been a bad thing so far.

sturmundcalm not seen fluffy mens PJs, but MN is trying to flog me a tartan onesie with a bum flap at the moment, so there must be something out there for all tastes.

@NotAnActualSheep that’s the official Nicola nightwear

Noooo! That is a picture that is never leaving my head...that was uncalled for!

Sheep that pretty much sums it up. At least when the kids are gaming online it gives them something to talk and laugh about. Trying to get consoles during lockdown was a nightmare too.

@NotAnActualSheep sorry 😂😂

I keep seeing that tartan pj thing. Now I'll not be able to look at it without seeing her in it.
I'm still trying to figure out the bum flap

My 7 Yr old was worst affected at the time too I'd say, but now his life is pretty much normal and his teenage brothers are still missing out. Primary school is fairly normal, 3 days of after school club which is basically just running around in the playground with his pals in the dark, happy to play on the trampoline in the garden even when it's cold. But the teens are still finding it hard. School is weird, hanging out with their pals is hard, cinemas closed, leisure facilities need booking far in advance.
It will be an interesting social study in years to come I'm sure, seeing the long term effects

As I say it was the initial lock down the study was reporting on and it may have had English bias remember kids south of border are still meant to SD.

I'll give Queen Covid that, under 12s and social distancing are two things that should never happen but their again 2m is law in Scotland guidance in England.

@Bikingbear it’s for a bit of festive and patriotic anal.

Now all I can see is his smug face and her in that. Sorry my brain as gone too far....

😂😂

There’s a judicial review going on on the Edinburgh tier 3 thing by the way.

To move away from tartan bum sex

That's good news for the Edinburgers!

@WouldBeGood

There’s a judicial review going on on the Edinburgh tier 3 thing by the way.

To move away from tartan bum sex

Any more details? They certain seem to be lacking in evidence for it which would suggest they may be acting outwith the boundaries of the system parliament approved

On my search for the Edinburgh case I found publicans in Birmingham are also after a review on their teir under the English system.

Am I the only one who wondering if both governments could end up getting sued for unnecessary restrictions on business, resulting in legal fights going on for years??