Fears For Tiers

[Bytheloch]

Thread #567 Still here, getting through each day one 2M step away at a time. November into December 2020 here we go...

diplodocusinermine good to hear someone is benefiting from this shite.

Apparently the Welsh tourist industry are calling for one set of travel rules to. To allow them to manage bookings etc.

Hey OP @Bytheloch Broadcasting House R4 this morning have pinched your title. Should have trademarked it.

I saw an idea on Twitter that it would make more sense to lockdown for two weeks over Christmas when the schools are off anyway, rather than before and after.

If there must be lockdown then sure this would make sense?

Dunno?

The schools are closed for two weeks but over a 3 week period, half week, full week, half week. Which only gives a 14 day break.
It would make sense to close for 3 full weeks which give a break of 24 days (inc the two weekends) of kids not mixing in schools.

If pupils attend school on the 23rd then head teachers may find themselves working with public health teams on the 25th attempting to do contact tracing.

Good luck to anyone phoning me looking for a seating plan or to confirm the accuracy of my register on Christmas Day. I have champagne with my smoked salmon and work my through cocktails, wines and liquors as the day goes on.

A few days makes a big logistical difference .

I normally love the last few days of term, doing nice Christmassy lessons with younger classes, older pupils either "revising at home" or asking for targeted revision task as the prelims loom on return . But I'd readily forgo that so that head teachers get to be mums and dads, husbands and wives, siblings, partners etc not contact tracers on Christmas Day.

@LizzieMacQueen

Hey OP *@Bytheloch* Broadcasting House R4 this morning have pinched your title. Should have trademarked it.

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Lidfix I never thought about the teachers doing contact tracing. But it really makes good sense to close them on 18th.

I was half tempted to pull mine out for that half week before Christmas anyway to minimize risk of having to self isolate, or risk to family.

@Lidlfix that makes a lot of sense.

Your Christmas Day plan sounds excellent too

Imagine being the Grinch that phones pupils and staff to say "Merry Christmas you are now in isolation ". Or interrupts a lovely family day to ask essential public health questions. Grim!

My DD4 has already decided she's not going in after the 18th , she's S6 so her choice.

Just back from an illegal walk around the West End before it starts raining again. Don't feel guilty in the slightest.

@Lidlfix with my family I’d think the call was from Santa, and that I’d been very good 😂

Apparently we are getting 48 hours amnesty over Christmas - not 5 days as people are talking about in England.

Not long enough. I suspect it will be one rule we break because if it's safe enough to go...staying a few hours longer should be fine. Obviously helped by the fact that the inlaws have a massive drive and no close neighbours.

But it really makes good sense to close them on 18th.

Aberdeenshire is closing then. No idea if that was always the plan but it's been on the timetable since the schools reopened.

Most of the worthy TV adverts are really getting to me atm.

I may have to start doing all my shopping in Tesco purely because they agree with me that "there is no naughty list".

Seeing lots of reports about gargling mouthwash to kill corona. I'm pretty convinced Lidl's approach would be equally effective.

Sunday Post making the point about Buchanan Street. Wish they had also gone round Pollok Park and Silverburn to show the perverse unintended consequences as well.

www.sundaypost.com/fp/coronavirus-latest-high-streets-suffer-15m-hit-on-the-first-day-as-swathes-of-scotland-lock-down/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

The cynic in me responds to worries about Christmas Day contact tracing. There will be no contact tracing over Christmas because all the tracers will be on holiday and all the test centres and labs will be closed. Hospitals and care centres will similarly not be doing routine testing. This is already strongly in evidence in the weekend effects in weekly case reporting.

If it's only 48 hours it's completely pointless for us and a bunch of other people who don't have family round the corner.

Seeing lots of reports about gargling mouthwash to kill corona. I'm pretty convinced Lidl's approach would be equally effective.

Almost exactly DHs comments yesterday while enjoying a wee dram.

Obviously we are not supposed to have alcohol in our new prohibition state though. Pity no-one mentioned that before I stocked up both for the festive season, DHs birthday and for gifts :o

Saw a really good deal on a case of cider with Morrisons the other day, clicked into my local and realised that obviously we can't get the deal as it would fail the minimum pricing legislation, cos that's the perfect way to use a hammer to crack a nut.

Obviously we are not supposed to have alcohol in our new prohibition state though.

The off-ie is deemed essential thought. So you can't go to the pub but legally get sozzeled like a sad b alone

Reminds me of the lovely Christmas wine collection, gifted to us last year. My relative south of Berwick got to keep the free champagne that came with it, as not allowed to deliver a free alcoholic gift in Scotland under the minimum pricing legislation 🤪

So you can't go to the pub but legally get sozzeled like a sad b alone

At the moment anyway...

Just before the usual suspects complain. I'm sure there is not an actual plan to enforce complete abstinence but just sick of the narrative to be all about banning alcohol through the levels when the the vast majority just want a pint or two or a glass or two with a meal.

There are lots of folk with alcohol issues but why not deal with those (to their benefit) rather than penalising everyone?

@WaxOnFeckOff the SG have long had a curious obsession with things that are really a very limited problem, such as misuse of alcohol; singing football songs; etc. It’s quite weird.

Obviously, misuse of alcohol and sectarianism are not good, but it’s an undue focus in my view. As you say, the vast majority just want a nice meal out, couple of cocktails, glass of wine.

Dare I say, a little pleasure in a dark world?

God i really don’t think a hard lockdown in January when lots of people are really down is wise.

I agree @AgentCooper

WaxOnFeckOffthe SG have long had a curious obsession with things that are really a very limited problem, such as misuse of alcohol; singing football songs; etc. It’s quite weird

It's all about control, communistic level of control. And once you see it you can't un-see it.

It's all about control, communistic level of control. And once you see it you can't un-see it.

I usually get shit on here for airing that view but you are 100% correct.

The fact is that some people like that control, they've been gaslighted to believe that they aren't able to decide things for themselves and that the SNP are benevolent parent figures trying to take their worries away from them. There are obviously some intelligent supporters and that somehow seems to make it worse. I'm sad how easily people have bought into the narrative and seem so keen to give their rights away for reasons that are not given proper transparency.

As for the folk that just repeating the rules as if they are a magic wand on forums and fb and other SM, these are the people that the nazis would have handed a badge to and made them street monitors.