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November Lockdown: Mibbes Aye Mibbes Naw

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BlueThursday · 31/10/2020 17:06

Thread 3!!!!

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anon444877 · 04/11/2020 18:31

Can only think the student outbreak in Edinburgh didn't make big inroads into the local population.

StatisticallyChallenged · 04/11/2020 18:46

I think that is a factor, a lot of the Edinburgh outbreak seems to have been student based. Could be a load of things, Edinburgh is a very walkable city especially from the main studenty hubs so maybe fewer infected people using transport, for example?

Scotslassie1 · 04/11/2020 18:47

More frontline jobs so less able to stay at home ( general picture) also a lot more multicultural in Glasgow so different generations living on one household. Of course there's a decent finance sector but not as big as Edinburgh (

StatisticallyChallenged · 04/11/2020 18:52

Yeah there is a large number of people wfh in Edinburgh- even the entry level, call centre type finance jobs here are wfh as far as I can tell.

waitforitwaitforit · 04/11/2020 19:01

@Rae36

I also really don't understand about the Glasgow numbers. 286/100000 in Glasgow and only 78 in Edinburgh? I assume someone somewhere in science or government is trying to work out why but I never hear them say much about it. Or is it a combination of lots of smallish factors? Poverty, poor health, pubs having been closed for weeks, people getting weary, who knows? It's really weird. I would be really fed up if I was in Glasgow, it's just not getting any better.

No it's not. It's so depressing. We've been following the rules to the letter so this constant threat of level 4 is so demoralising. It feels like the situation is spiralling out of control and there's no consideration or analysis of why. And the implication that we've no self control and are just rolling around, getting bevvied together at giant house parties is frustrating. Bloody footballers aren't helping, mind you.

Scotslassie1 · 04/11/2020 19:10

What have the footballers been doing?? Yes, we're both keyworkers so out to work throughout but had no one in my house nor been to a pub or restaurant since February.. ach well xxx

waitforitwaitforit · 04/11/2020 19:17

There were a couple of rangers players photographed / filmed at a house party at the weekend.

runningpink · 04/11/2020 19:29

@Iwillneverbesatisfied I think we find out on Tuesday

anon444877 · 04/11/2020 19:38

Did you see the Scotsman article saying travel restrictions 'between regions' going to have legal backing?

Seems all very extreme - is that really needed at this stage?

WouldBeGood · 04/11/2020 19:46

Ach. It’s quite hard to blame the youngsters for wanting a bit of fun.

I’m fed up enough and I’m ancient!

No house parties for me though (there’s no fun when there’s no pulling😃)

BlueThursday · 04/11/2020 19:49

I’m hoping by region they mean the same tier as it’s far easier for me to cross to the city of Glasgow to go to the supermarket than to go 5 miles to the nearest in my LA

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Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 04/11/2020 20:09

I wonder if the difference in % of “home” university students in Edinburgh v.s Glasgow has impacted on the figures? Any student infection issues at Glasgow Uni are more likely to seep into the local population as far more students are living at home v.s Edinburgh it was mostly kept within the student population?

WaxOnFeckOff · 04/11/2020 20:09

It's interesting. As far as I am aware, those testing positive would be based on home address so care home density would add to the figures but as most people in hospital have a home address, that shouldn't make any difference.

There isn't as big a size difference between Edinburgh City and Glasgow city as you'd think, the difference is that Greater Glasgow area is far larger in size and population than the Lothians.

Although poverty is mentioned a lot, when you look at the local breakdown in Edinburgh then there was a real mix of poorer areas and more affluent featuring in the those with the highest rates. I'm not as familiar with Glasgow (and it's all mostly red) so I can't really say if that is a feature there or not.

It could even be a case of just higher levels of testing which grows and grows as contact tracing kicks in and more go for a test with very little symptoms, then it just explodes. Levels could be broadly similar in any of the more populated areas to be honest but areas that are tested more will have more positive cases.

Lifestyle factors no doubt affect the amount requiring hospitalisation in the same way as life expectancy in general is lower in areas where obviously poverty plays a big part in general health. It needs to be remembered that the average age of death of someone which has ben attributed to covid is higher than the average age of death. That's not to say that everyone dying isn't important or greatly missed, but lots of people lose their lives every day and many of them at a much younger age and many of them directly related to the lock down and restrictions rather than covid.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 04/11/2020 20:10

Not that is really bloody matters how the situation happened what we need is a way out....

WouldBeGood · 04/11/2020 20:12

@WaxOnFeckOff I do agree that death age stat is important to remember. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 04/11/2020 20:12

That was me commenting on my own comment but closeted with yours Blush

Matilda2013 · 04/11/2020 20:12

I'm not sure 2 footballers caught very early and fined and suspended are the reason for the Glasgow problem Grin
I just wish they would make a decision about everything rather than this limbo.

WaxOnFeckOff · 04/11/2020 20:13

@Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons

I wonder if the difference in % of “home” university students in Edinburgh v.s Glasgow has impacted on the figures? Any student infection issues at Glasgow Uni are more likely to seep into the local population as far more students are living at home v.s Edinburgh it was mostly kept within the student population?
But home students wouldn't be in student accommodation and I don't think any have had face to face lessons? DS1 normally commutes into Strathclyde but he has had nothing face to face and actually very little on-line either, but that's another story.
Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 04/11/2020 20:21

Ahh I wondered if there had been meet ups between returning students & home students - imagining second years & beyond rather than freshers.

Sorry to hear your son hasn’t had much online learning Waxon that’s like insult to injury. I feel so bad for all the students

Scotslassie1 · 04/11/2020 20:25

Just realised I put kisses at the end if my last post. What can I say.. it's been a long day! Hadn't seen that about the Rangers players.

WaxOnFeckOff · 04/11/2020 20:25

I guess that's possible though my DS2 has gone back to Aberdeen for 2nd year but has been uninterested in meeting up with his first year pals. He's just holed up in his flat with his girlfriend instead.

To be fair DS1 might have more available than he does. He has sessions that are for when they need help and support which he doesn't go to and he's done all his work and has delivered all the group things that he had to do. He finds it all too easy I think. Both a good thing and a bad.

waitforitwaitforit · 04/11/2020 21:14

@Matilda2013

I'm not sure 2 footballers caught very early and fined and suspended are the reason for the Glasgow problem Grin I just wish they would make a decision about everything rather than this limbo.

I meant more the perception of Glasgow from outwith the city isn't helped by the news that footballers attended a house party. I don't think they're making the situation here worse, just others perception of the situation here.

WouldBeGood · 04/11/2020 22:01

I see she’s considering laws to stop freedom of movement. This has gone far too far now

littlbrowndog · 04/11/2020 22:52

We have / had 16 students in our stair.

I wonder if that’s where I caught it back in April ?

We only have 12 students now as one of flats is empty

But in April there was lots of students coming and going and visiting friends

Don’t know where I am going with this 😖 but just thinking back

But then we have loads of kids and families visiting so maybe not relevant

runningpink · 05/11/2020 06:06

@WouldBeGood

I see she’s considering laws to stop freedom of movement. This has gone far too far now
What would this mean? Not being allowed to go anywhere at all? Sorry if it’s a stupid question