November Lockdown: Mibbes Aye Mibbes Naw

[BlueThursday]

Thread 3!!!!

DD1 is due to get her braces off at the end of this month after nearly 4 years, finger crossed she still can. DD2 was supposed to have a minor op on her tooth in April didn’t happen and don’t know when it will, chances are her treatment is a year behind.

Both are complaining they are still at hole when lots of their friends are self isolating. DD2 said the boy who sits diagonally behind her in music has tested positive yet only the boy directly next to him has to isolate.

As a teacher still looking for these enhanced methods. We have a cleaner during the day who (very slowly) goes around cleaning the light switches and door handles (uses the same cloth for 2 schools). Our after school cleaner is rubbish, desks are filthy in the morning floors not mopped. Most teachers spending half an hour after school at least sanitising toys and cleaning their classrooms. We are wearing masks a lot but not all the time as our children are autistic and find communicating hard. We wear them in corridors etc around other adults. It seems like everyday there’s a new bubble rule though.

Seems like tier 4 could be incoming for the west (or maybe all of us). Over 1000 cases in just Glasgow, Lanarkshire and Ayrshire today and Sturgeon saying she’s watching closely ahead of the review next Tuesday.

Oh ffs

I reckon Glasgow and Lanarkshire areas in Tier 4 and any in Tier 3 will stay there. I was getting cautiously optimistic over the past few days as numbers went down

Just waiting for a work call to find out if my job is at risk. Fun times.

I wish they would give reasons why the rate is higher in Glasgow and Lanarkshire.

Then as a government they could work on the reasons

Glasgow has been locked down for longer if I rember

Does it become the harder you get locked down the more you give up as there is no end in sight

So today we were threatened with travel bans. The example sited was ‘you might visit a restaurant outwith your tier?’
On being asked how any ban would be legally imposed (ID checks, traffic gates...) the FM did not have an answer.

So it’s just a casual threat today🙄

I do wonder what the explanation is for persistent high numbers - perhaps compliance is worn down.

No wonder compliance has worn down! Everyone has had enough.

Perhaps closing schools would be what is required to get numbers down in Glasgow. But I can’t imagine NS will want to do that before boris

I think as well that Glasgow and south Lanarkshire have the biggest and most dense population and rates seem to rise with that and poverty and deprivation.

I also think it’s true that the SG needs to say what is going on as we’ve now been locked up for quite some time here. It’s clearly not being spread by hospitality.

I think reopening that properly would help. Save people going to houses. The main source though, I think I saw, is hospitals and care homes.

Touch wood our school has been fine 🤷🏻‍♀️

FFS please don't mention closing schools.

@Chickenandrice

Our DC have already missed more than enough education. The schools need to stay open or we’ll end up with huge inequalities.

I think sources of transmission are hospitals, care settings, including care workers going into people's homes, workplaces (especially where distancing is hard and building/construction, warehouses etc) but we don't get proper data on this

@IwishIwasyoda that makes sense.

It also explains the Lanarkshire abd Glasgow figures better than we are just bad

If it is hospitals and care homes then SG need a strategy to change the numbers there and be seen to be doing that in a transparent way so the nation knows why and how SG will measure the effectiveness

It’s the endless oh we might move you to level 4 threats and stop travel that is wearing most people down to the point where we give up

Tears hair out at thought of schools and nurseries being closed 😥😥

I genuinely think the spread is in care homes and hospitals, which is why it’s not being mentioned. And we are all stuck in our houses pointlessly again...

I agree hospitals and care homes need more focus. QEUH is the 2nd largest single site hospital in the UK. It is hardwired into the healthcare structure for almost half the Scottish population. The Glasgow concentration of cases points to this being a factor.

Also just checked. One of the reasons for higher numbers today is that over 7,000 pillar 1 (care setting) tests were processed as opposed to an average of 5,500 on each of the previous 3 days.

Also of note that Manchester has the marginally larger hospital, with a similar organisational structure and ongoing higher case levels.

when do we find out if we are moving into tier 4? is it tomorrow? Thursday? next week?

Apologies for the somewhat spammy posting. Catching up cooking the dinner and somewhat frustrated for a while that no-one in the public sphere addressing this.

I'm in a town in North Lanarkshire with a main hospital too. Would that skew our figures?

My whole county has no hospital but features high. It does have an elderly population though which might explain

I also really don't understand about the Glasgow numbers. 286/100000 in Glasgow and only 78 in Edinburgh? I assume someone somewhere in science or government is trying to work out why but I never hear them say much about it. Or is it a combination of lots of smallish factors? Poverty, poor health, pubs having been closed for weeks, people getting weary, who knows? It's really weird. I would be really fed up if I was in Glasgow, it's just not getting any better.