November Lockdown: Mibbes Aye Mibbes Naw

[BlueThursday]

Thread 3!!!!

Agree there is very little detail ever gone into about the nhs context.

Most of the news is scare stories and Twitter is a minefield of politicians haranguing each other.

I think they're reluctant to give numbers as it would highlight just how fucked nhs capacity is year round

Agree - has everyone forgotten that EVERY winter there are stories about waiting lists getting longer and people having operations cancelled?

It's almost as if people think that pre-covid, the hospitals were empty and staff sitting twiddling their thumbs.

So it appears from BBC summary today, nine the wiser if we'll be put into lockdown or not.

So I've got to take a week off and ideally I'd like to sleep somewhere from here even if it's only at a nearby hotel ( I say only because of location). Any thoughts on if I should try to get next week off on the basis things may stay as they are for a bit, wait until w/c 16th or 23rd and hope that Edinburgh gets moved to Tier 2 so I can stay in another Tier 2 area ?

She said today that ‘some areas’ may need to go into tier 4 ‘for a time’. But that a decision has ‘not yet been taken’ (hmmm).

Perhaps an indication that Glasgow and Lanarkshire are set for tier 4?

She needs to stop bloody threatening and tell us what happening. This is people's lives. If she's locking down she needs to just do it rather than leaving us in limbo.

@waitforitwaitforit I am really struggling with the ups and downs. I’m quite lucky too really I’m my circumstance but went proper mental the last time and terrified

I think she is trying to back track a bit no longer saying the restrictions are working. Now saying well they are working but maybe not well enough. As she wants to implement a full lockdown as per England. And I can’t blame her really as any future furlough in December probably can’t be guaranteed so she prob wants to make use of it now

I think NS has made her bed and should lie in it. She decided on the level 0-4 system and needs to now give it time to work. This constant shifting of goalposts is ridiculous. And don't get me started on why GG and Lanarkshire are not in tier 4 ...

Still struggle with who the fuck is actually gonna pay for furlough long term - the debt is huge. And if this carries on much longer and so many of the companies aren't going to recover... hence the WHO saying lockdowns should be avoided because they cause poverty which can be a bigger killer than Covid if you take a longer term view (and don't have a knee-jerk reaction every time there are cases)

Find it too much of a struggle to be upbeat. Being with everyone else having a moan is much more cheering (and what's so wrong with the odd tin of tomatoes rookie? - he just needs to balance it with a spot of sugar and maybe some balsamic).

I have given up on the news in favour of Foodnetwork and TOWIE.

The problem is the overlap between the health board areas and the local councils.

We live in East Dunbartonshire and fall under the Greater Glasgow and Clyde health board. Cases are on the slide in East Dunbartonshire and have been for a week, still fairly high, but reducing fairly quickly. On the Covid zoe app it was something like 1800 on saturday, 1500 on monday and 1000 today.

But because we're a very small area, we can't be considered in isolation. Most people in East Dunbartonshire travel into Glasgow to work, shop, for leisure. Same as in West Dunbartonshire, Renfrewshire, East Renfrewshire. So because numbers are still high and remaining high in parts of Glasgow city, we all have to be treated in the same way. All those wee council areas don't have their own hospitals.

On one hand they're releasing very detailed data so you can see on a 4000 people neighbourhood level your very local trend. But on the other hand, that means absolutely nothing as you have to considered alongside everyone in the larger health board area too.

It's so inconsistent - local data, a tiered approach, "central belt", national lockdown. And she wonders why people have stopped listening?

@Dinnafashyersel with you.

I also try very hard to avoid anything inspirational.

Just catching up with the press briefing. Fingers crossed NS is hoping to keep her powder dry and outflank Boris as numbers on both sides of the border look to be declining on their own.

Gets me through by viewing it as purely political game playing at this juncture. I do accept they are all playing poker with each other and with the vagueries of virus and human dynamics though.

@Dinnafashyersel DS and I prefer the Bolognaise to have a thicker consistency so I try to make sure that I make it up at lunchtime with what I judge to be the right amount of passata and red pesto. Then DH has - twice now - plonked a tin of tomatoes in to up the vegetable count allegedly so the ratio of meat to sauce is all wrong and it has a watery tinny taste. Although the balsamic vinegar and sugar idea could rescue it slightly.
I did tell him if he did it again it would be grounds for divorce, but I'm not sure he takes me seriously .

A few nights away solo - we both wfh - would be rather beneficial I feel!

DH and I, and Uni DD2 are all cooped up 24/7 atm. Just as well we are all so ahem easy going (by which I mean we usually manage to forgive and forget the tempers and tantrums without undue cause for reflection).

Thistlegirl4 totally agree with everything you've said. I have nothing to look forward to - no plans for anything at all, I also work in a school and we are soldiering on in shitty conditions, but hey ho, schools are still open so that's all that matters.

On THAT FB page, they were deriding teacher unions for saying that schools should close, stating that only 4 people who work in schools have died of Covid - sums up their mentality really

I teach in FE, but we are working 100% remotely. Which means I am not “at risk” in the way teachers are, but that I am working far longer hours, as teaching online is a whole different ballgame to being face to face. I hate it so much!

Is there a review date on the current tiers? Surely we have to get to that before being tipped into a full lockdown? I was live broadcasting 9-5 so missed today’s briefing. I am getting my hair cut next week and would really like my hairdresser not to close - for my sake and his. He owns the salon and lockdown was brutal for him.

It's disgusting they say well how many have died, we should have no protection measures in place in schools. Imagine asking that about nurses and pushing for their safety measures to be removed. It's terrible they're given airtime on the news too. The latest call to action saying it's a safety issue wearing a mask. Really?! My two year old knows it's me when I pick him up at nursery. Just beyond pathetic.

There are loads of threads for teachers to moan about THEM and vice versa.

I like this thread cos it’s not been like that

@Judystilldreamsofhorses I think the next review is Tuesday 10th.

Thank you @Rararachel. Glad it's not just me!
It's been mentioned the 10th November as @Direwolfwrangler says, something to look forward too 😏

@Direwolfwrangler if she shuts my hairdresser before Wednesday I will be FURIOUS.

I have dentist on 10th. That’s been since March

Please let me get this appointment.

I don’t even dare ask what the6 are allowed to do.

I was at the dentist last week, and think they will continue through lockdown - the issue previously was not having PPE, which they have now.