Does anyone disagree with Scottish restrictions?

[Torvean32]

As far as i can see the spread started in Glasgow then spread to the areas around it.
NS failed to sanction them properly.
She locked Aberdeen at 82 cases.

Cases in Grampian and the Highlands are low. We are now being unfairly sanctioned. The whole thing is a joke.

NS doesn't have the guts to fully lockdown Glasgow.

Ppl in Aberdeen have less trust in NS as this goes on.

@Anotherthink

Sorry, as an outsider I'm curious what the political reasons would be for NS not locking down in Glasgow. Is it because of the size of the area so there would be a big backlash?

SNP stronghold. Aberdeen isn’t (had lower figures than Glasgow) but had hospitality shut down and travel restrictions imposed.

No matter what she put in place, folk would disagree with it. If she just put one area in lockdown then it would be "why does the lockdown boundary end here and not there" or some other such nonsense. She's taken the hard line and done a blanket ban. What I disagree with are the muppets who haven't followed any rules ie no masks, no social distancing, not giving a shit basically and basically being a major factor in getting us to this point in the first place.

I’ve followed all the rules.
Sturgeon was basking in the glory when the figures were looking good but now it’s all going down the pan it’s the public’s fault 🤔

If she had taken a harder line with Glasgow - as she did with Aberdeen- we might not be in this mess. It’s politics - trying not to upset her voters

@AwaAnBileYerHeid, masks have done sod all. They have been introduced way too early and for no reason (except to embarrass BJ).
The trend was there from before and never changed in the slightest. Maybe we could have had masks in a while and they would have helped. I stead now we go down the blanket bans route.
Spoiler alert, what she announced today will make NO difference, so expect further restrictions in a week or two.

Thanks MonTheGoose

I want schools to stay open full time and to have no mandatory masks in classes.

I can live with the rest.

I do agree that Glasgow should have been locked down like Aberdeen was. I'm not in the central belt.

What WhoKnowsWhatsAroundTheCorner said.

I'm in Aberdeen, there has been a rising amount of resentment at the softer touch being taken in Glasgow from what we had (especially after one of her advisors told the press two weeks ago that transmission was now taking place in pubs rather than just houses), and today has just increased that.

Glasgow and Lanarkshire should have been locked down long ago- by my calculation 70% of today’s cases are in these two regions.

I think banning household visits nationwide is totally disproportionate when cases are so low across most other areas.

I find it unbelievable that pubs in Glasgow are still going to be open while household visits are illegal in Orkney.

There is a lot of SNP support in Glasgow so she doesn’t want to upset Glasgow. Aberdeen had stricter measures as there’s not as much support up there.

Sorry that was in reply to an earlier post! Whatever happened to proportionate measures. This is unfair.

😂😂😂 If she's doing it politically she'd literally need to do the polar opposite of what she's done . To win an election you need to win round those not yet voting for you (Aberdeen!).

@Scotslassie1

😂😂😂 If she's doing it politically she'd literally need to do the polar opposite of what she's done . To win an election you need to win round those not yet voting for you (Aberdeen!).

Nah. Glasgow is such a stronghold for her with more seats than Aberdeen, so she really wouldn’t want to lose them. If she alienated Glasgow she’d have no chance of independence. The Aberdeen lockdown was a joke, only confined to city limits, yet some huge suburbs on the outskirts that fall under shire where half the pub goers will have come from had zero limits put on them. If our outbreak was solely down to pubs, why ban us from both seeing family and using pubs and restaurants. Yet she only stopped people in Glasgow from visiting houses, of course they would then spread out to meeting in pubs.

Who knows what that megalomaniac’s political agenda is. She went too far today. I don’t trust her to keep schools open now, and when the numbers go up and we all get the blame for not following the rules that will be the next step. I thought the rule of six was disproportionate but 3 weeks of this and I suspect we still won’t be allowed in each other’s houses. So what if the public are on your side, as long as you look like you’re doing better than Boris! All at the expense of Scottish people’s livelihoods and mental health. And we are supposed to just sit and take this for...ever? Because that’s what it looks like to me. These measures prove that she will do anything as long as it looks like she’s doing more than Boris Johnson. They’re welcome to each other

I disagree with most on here, I think if you pay attention to the info it makes sense and I think a lot of people are pissed off at the virus/situation so taking it out on politicians because you need someone.

Aberdeen spread was footballers etc fucking about in nightclubs and pubs. She shut it all down. Glasgows issue is from house parties which have been cracked down on for a few weeks now but harder to police and less compliance as time goes on. Situation overall is changing so everyone needs to step up and remember it's a deadly virus.

They won't introduce actual consequences for not following so it'll be the same ones breaking the rules and the same ones following that have been.
I'm so done with this. Had a baby during lockdown and just feel it's been so much and this can't go on. It's not a normal way to live to keep people apart from their families.
This isn't articulated very well but yeah I'm upset and fed up with it too.
Oh and the line about seeing the October break as anyone opportunity to suppress travel further or whatever the line was-wow aren't we lucky?!

Yes Mmsnet. 120 people were infected from one pub goer in Aberdeen and footballers doing pub crawls ( naughty!).
In Glasgow, lots if outbreaks relating to parties . Not heard of any big outbreaks relating to a pub but happy to be proved wrong.

God it's surely not about punishing Glasgow
Glasgow is a very important city with lots of people depending on it for their livelihoods

I can't see there being any meaningful reduction in cases from the measures announced today. Unless I missed something, the only major things are a curfew on pubs (which I can't see making much difference) and a nationwide ban on meeting inside each others houses. This latter one has been in place for several weeks now around Glasgow and has had precisely zero effect that I can see - cases have continued to increase and certainly aren't reducing. The refusal to implement any meaningful punishment for breaking quarantine isn't going to help with the people who are merrily ignoring it either.

I'm actually in the central belt and was under enhanced restrictions already which was bad enough (I can't even go round to see my parents any more, despite being more able to distance there than in a cafe for example), but if I lived somewhere else in Scotland that has very low case numbers I'd be mightily pissed off at being penalised for no good reason.

I understand the need for compromise, but I can't see this package of measures being successful at all. It seems to target all the wrong people and doesn't crack down on the actual problems, like people failing to self isolate or going out getting pissed. I fully expect this situation to go on for months as the virus works its way through its natural season before easing off again. But as PP said, then what? What's the end game? I hear a lot of people waiting for a vaccine, but even if it does come (and it might not), if natural immunity is apparently short lived, why would vaccine-mediated immunity be any better?

@user1487194234 Glasgow is a very important city? What about the others? Per capita more gdp, fewer handouts. That is why tax payers outside the central belt subsidise education in Glasgow through their council tax.
It’s all politics for NS. She talks about not having financial levers , but it’s clear she doesn’t understand basic economics - she has no plan for Scotland’s economic independence, it’s all what BoJo hasn’t given her.

And as pp has said, the irony that we can’t meet MIL at her home but we can in a pub is just ridiculous.
Shetland want independence from NS. Think I may have to move there.

So ... what is your explanation for Aberdeen getting much more severely locked down and with travel restrictions .... whilst Glasgow has less harsh measures and no travel restrictions. And why do you find it funny?

The hospitality industry is decimated up here. Only a few bars were implicated in our spike, but all businesses were shut down and punished.

Meanwhile I was in Glasgow a few weeks ago - Princes Square and it was jumping. You would never have thought there was a problem. Lots of busy hospitality going on.

NS has introduced quarantine measures for people coming back from holiday in countries with high incidence of the virus. Yet does virtually nothing to stem the rise in Glasgow, and now she punishes the whole country?!

It makes no sense.

It doesn’t make sense either that the virus is purely being spread by house parties. How many house parties do Glaswegians have? Is there some kind of relay system that people move from one party to another? One or two parties, I could believe, but not the current level of infection in Glasgow

Is it not more likely it’s being spread by larger groups of random people being in bars and restaurants at roughly the same time, and unfortunately infection is being passed on that way.

I understand the frustration. Sept weekend will be putting a huge amount of ££ into the hospitality sector which wouldn't happen if travel restructions were put in place. It won't wholly be an economic decision though.

@AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii

I've seen you post a couple of times and know you need this break - the good news is that tourist accommodation is exempt from the new regulations. So you cannot visit your sisters home, but she can come to your holiday let

www.assc.co.uk/new-coronavirus-restrictions-in-scotland-what-you-need-to-know/

I think it's ridiculous. You can go to the pub, but can't have a friend in your lounge. You can fly to Europe on holiday, and your dc are in a classroom with 30+ others, but you can't mix. Stupid.