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Does anyone disagree with Scottish restrictions?

317 replies

Torvean32 · 22/09/2020 16:21

As far as i can see the spread started in Glasgow then spread to the areas around it.
NS failed to sanction them properly.
She locked Aberdeen at 82 cases.

Cases in Grampian and the Highlands are low. We are now being unfairly sanctioned. The whole thing is a joke.

NS doesn't have the guts to fully lockdown Glasgow.

Ppl in Aberdeen have less trust in NS as this goes on.

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SBTLove · 30/09/2020 11:39

For those going on about Scotland being in debt blah blah, tell me why the Tories are hanging onto us like grim death? it’s because our resources are valuable to them!
Do not fool yourself they want the union for altruistic reasons, it’s purely down to ££

MumofHunter · 30/09/2020 12:06

SBT they've literally just put through a bill which means they have direct control of all our resources. If they decide Scottish water will be privatised so they can sell it, they can. The same with our NHS. Public Health Scotland can become privatised (and the wife of a Tory MP put in charge for monetary gain -same as down south.) It's terrifying that no one seems to care.

Jodri · 30/09/2020 13:02

Oh c’mon the white paper was massive and Politics is not everyone’s raison d’etre. Most folk were sick of independence talk by the time the vote came round and can’t remember where to access the white paper now let alone refer to their own personal copy. Only copy we could see in 2014 let alone get our hands on, briefly, was at our local library and you couldn’t take it out, reference only.

It’s unrealistic to expect folk on the street to remember little nuggets like what the SNP would like the Royal Mail to do in an independent Scotland? At the moment those to the north of the central belt and rurally do experience extra postage/delivery costs and an infrequent service so it’s not unreasonable to think things would not change that much. We can’t get Covid 19 apps to work together.

Our SNP MPs are the ones in Westminster not us; get on with the job, make alliances with green, labour, Lib Dem’s whoever... if this bill really is the poison chalice they say it is compromise and work with other parties; the political parties in Northern European Parliaments (beloved of many) do it all the time.

I think folk are far more worried about this pandemic and how it affects their daily lives than continual cries of referendums and referring back to the populace on absolutely every single little point of order.

iquitelikenormalityafterall · 30/09/2020 14:38

Hmm I just can’t believe people on this thread are more concerned about the Royal Mail than the fact our basic freedoms are being taken away. I think a lot of people will look back on this year and feel ashamed about what has happened. Children aren’t even allowed to sing in schools. How can anyone with any modicum of common sense think that spreads Covid? The rules are ridiculous. The focus should be on keeping distance in public settings, isolating if you need to and not having parties. Not a complete ban on households mixing, it’s too far. Madrid has actual limits set on incidence per 100000 and ICU capacity. We just have rules for the sake of it where we are, just so Glasgow don’t look like they’re being punished?! I was an on the fence voter before but I see the SNP for what they are now, and I thought they were being sensible towards the start of the pandemic by prioritising schools and letting families meet. They’ve gone power mad. The balance is not being met.

conkersarebonkers · 30/09/2020 15:49

@BrazenlyDefying

I have down loaded the Scottish track and trace app on my phone. We are shortly to be going down to England on holiday for a week. I can't have the English app because you need to enter your postcode to register for it, and it won't work with Scottish postcodes. The Scottish app won't work outside Scotland.

There must be thousands of people moving up and down the country every day for work, to see family or on holiday. It's crazy that Wales/England/Scotland all have their own apps working separately (I can see the argument for N Ireland having a separate one, in their case it would be more sensible to link it with the Republic of Ireland app but I can also see that's politically controversial for many people).

What a mess.

Surely you just enter the postcode of where you'll be staying in England in order to setup the English app?

This article describes how to switch between them.

"I travel a lot – do I need both?
When you’re in Scotland you should use the Protect Scotland and when you’re in England or Wales Wales you should use the NHS Covid-19 app.

These apps do not contact trace simultaneously – so when you cross the Border you will need to open the local app and turn on contact tracing within."

BrazenlyDefying · 30/09/2020 18:32

Yeah. Given that we're staying in a self-catering cottage and not meeting up with other friends or family I won't be bothering.

ronatheseal · 30/09/2020 19:19

@Shooglywheel That was my point, which you got distracted from with the GERS stuff. The Scotgov only get a portion of the revenues of Scotland and have very little power to alter these revenues, this is why it's no good trying to make out that pleas to London or 'blaming London' is some sort of childish excuse. The Scotgov budget seems big, but almost all of it is fixed to NHS, education commitments, etc, big economic solutions to COVID rely on Cummings and the Treasury. And it was you guys who voted against us having control over our economy, so the last people to be blaming NS for this should be you lot.

ronatheseal · 30/09/2020 19:23

@SBTLove Absolutely. Remember what happened to UK bonds and the stock market when they thought we might leave last time. The GERS beggar stuff is just for the consumption of us wee daftie plebs. Rings increasingly hollow these days I'm finding. After all, if the most resource rich country in Western Europe is such a basketcase, wtf have London being doing to us, and why would we stick around to endure more?!

WhoKnowsWhatsAroundTheCorner · 01/10/2020 20:20

Anyone seen that the SNP MP Margaret Ferrier has travelled to London and back on the train with mild symptoms and having had a test (but didn’t wait for the result) And has now tested positive.
Can’t wait to hear what NS has to say about that.

Scotslassie1 · 01/10/2020 20:25

She said she hasn't got the words to say how angry she is and that the rules apply to everyone.

SBTLove · 01/10/2020 20:47

@WhoKnowsWhatsAroundTheCorner
At least NS has an opinion not like Bawjaws who let’s cronies Tories do what they like.

WhoKnowsWhatsAroundTheCorner · 01/10/2020 20:55

That is a good response

Lazt · 01/10/2020 21:45

Wow! How did someone so thick become an MP??

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 02/10/2020 05:58

The SNP MSPs aren’t really renowned for intelligence to be fair. There are regularly issues. I often wonder if it’s because independence per se is ideological rather than sensible. With the economic case so weak, I feel to be an MSP you either have to be incredibly ideological and smart (NS or even Salmond) or just plain thick (most of the rest)

iquitelikenormalityafterall · 02/10/2020 07:13

And they expect us to stay locked down over the October break?! I think not. One rule for them and another for us, indeed. That’s the one rule EVERYONE should follow as a minimum. And they have the tenacity to keep families apart for a whole winter and shut down local businesses.

MadameBlobby · 02/10/2020 07:56

@Lazt

Wow! How did someone so thick become an MP??
If I’d had to guess on this being any MP on the SNP side it would have been her. She’s never really been renowned for her brain cells
waitforitwaitforit · 02/10/2020 19:46

@iquitelikenormalityafterall

And they expect us to stay locked down over the October break?! I think not. One rule for them and another for us, indeed. That’s the one rule EVERYONE should follow as a minimum. And they have the tenacity to keep families apart for a whole winter and shut down local businesses.

The point is that she broke the rules. They're not saying what she did was ok. They're saying what she did is absolutely NOT ok and totally against the rules. So don't start the Cummings defence. She did it, but it was wrong. If you, or anyone else does it: still wrong.

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