Glasgow, East Renfrewshire and West Dumbartonshire restrictions

[Ginger1982]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53989021

We just need to live with it now.

@museumum

And it doesn’t apply for kids / childcare so long as you drop/collect at the door and don’t go in yourself?

It doesn't say it doesn't apply to kids though. It says people in those areas can't have other people from different households in their home, so that would include my son surely?

It's always been the case that family can provide essential childcare during lockdowns. I assume it's for work purposes not going to shops etc so will be fine.

What sense? Is nonsense still considered sense? Her son went to her house and expected her to 'socially distance' from her own child? And scaring your kids by telling them they need to put bloody hand sanitiser on them all the time? JFC.

Which will be why the restrictions are on meeting in homes - because people think the rules don’t apply to them, in their circumstances, in their homes. From what I understand recent cases are linked to people gathering in homes, as opposed to pubs etc which is why the restrictions apply to homes. Because people “can’t be expected” to follow public health guidance in their own homes.

I'm not being funny, but what have stabbings got to do with covid lockdown? That's actually very frightening if what you're claiming is true - that the govt are now just using the virus as an excuse to keep people separate?

@RJnomore1

It’s looking like Ayrshire could be heading sane way?

None of this makes any sense any more.

It's an overreaction.

@Scotslassie1

It's always been the case that family can provide essential childcare during lockdowns. I assume it's for work purposes not going to shops etc so will be fine.

I think that was possibly just for key workers though?

@Scotslassie1

It's always been the case that family can provide essential childcare during lockdowns. I assume it's for work purposes not going to shops etc so will be fine.

This was not the case.

It says you can’t “visit other people indoors”. I would not categorise childcare as “a visit” at all.

@museumum

It says you can’t “visit other people indoors”. I would not categorise childcare as “a visit” at all.

It says not to 'host' people. I would say having grandkids for the day or overnight would constitute 'hosting.'

So if your child is with your parents for childcare they aren’t visiting them? I think that’s semantics tbh.

Oh, aye, drinkers in pubs totally follow the rulz to the letter, the staff so police it, punters are fab at socially distancing.

@Jellycatspyjamas

So if your child is with your parents for childcare they aren’t visiting them? I think that’s semantics tbh.

It would be better if they just spelt these things out rather than causing all this confusion.

I think it’s pretty clear, don’t go to someone else’s house or have anyone in your house.

I am a bit concerned that this is not going to have much effect at all. Surely the pubs need to close to stop spread? People are not going to listen to nonsensical rules. Also they haven’t locked down the area to 5 miles, so it will spread? I suppose now that furlough is going they just can’t close the pubs etc anymore.

The increase in stabbings, in my opinion, are likely linked to the increase in parties which has led to an increase in drug debts circulating around properties rather than on the street/nightclubs etc.

When our night time economy was alive- the police would have a greater presence in entertainment areas because that was where trouble circulated. However it is now more diffuse and harder to control.

So if statistically house parties are corona dens... this is really felling two birds with one stone

@Molofololo

I am a bit concerned that this is not going to have much effect at all. Surely the pubs need to close to stop spread? People are not going to listen to nonsensical rules. Also they haven’t locked down the area to 5 miles, so it will spread? I suppose now that furlough is going they just can’t close the pubs etc anymore.

Probably not.

It's bollocks. The Scottish govt have said that it's definitely not spreading through work, pubs or schools - just homes, evidently the virus can distinguish between homes and elsewhere. How can anyone follow the rules that stop you meeting your family but allow everything else?

So are we to take from this the theme of people catching it is house parties? And not pubs? Or is it pubs but they won’t say that because of the economy?

@Jellycatspyjamas

I think it’s pretty clear, don’t go to someone else’s house or have anyone in your house.

Yeah, that's how I read it.

@Troll so by that reckoning, the govt/police are actively trying to get people out of their houses into the pubs so they have more control/presence? Therefore a small increase in virus cases is a handy guise? That's concerning really.

Morfin, you can still meet your family. Just not in your home.

If you don’t have teenagers who use snapchat etc you might not be aware of the absolute raging house parties that have been widespread. City centre has had people booking air bnbs as party flats and the number of people attending has been insane.

These people seem to be incapable of policing themselves and the police have no backbone to do anything about it.

A blanket ban is the only way to stamp it out. You know yourself that you would be raging if your neighbour had a party now, knowing that it is basically preventing you from visiting your family at home.

This way sympathies for people “getting it out of their system” run dry because the majority of people would rather have unfettered access to their families rather than a big party.

Pubs in Aberdeen were shut because that's where transmission was happening. Same for house gatherings in Glasgow.

@Boyo7 I’m no conspiracy theorist, but I think it serves both purposes.

The house parties are prime ground for corona spread. There was news articles today about a ‘super spreader’ from Ayrshire attending many parties when they were meant to be isolating.
If they allow it to continue, the perceived lawlessness allows others to follow suit and then it’s a far bigger problem than they can possibly deal with.

The knife crime increase does fit into that narrative.

ultimately they are targeting the cause of the infections.

Virus is being spread with families mixing. They will have all the data and know how it is happening.

In Aberdeen it was pub crawls that were causing the problem.

Its the same restrictions as the NW of England. She can see that on the whole these measures have reduced cases.

They may be unpopular and people may moan, but it will make people take more care again and it's relatively pain free economically.

The Aberdeen lockdown was very costly to that area in addition to the previous national lockdown.

Hopefully people keep the heid and don't continue to spread it.