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Second referendum announced!

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Isadora2007 · 13/03/2017 11:47

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Will your vote change next time?

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Thegruffalowswife · 15/03/2017 12:41

Ah ok... I am pmsl at the thought of the edl having some sort of stronghold in scotland.
I think the closest they get to leaving england is a day trip to the Isle of Wight.

Nyx · 15/03/2017 12:42

I know. I'm laughing too (and scarlet with embarrassment at typing such a daft thing). Sorry!

Thegruffalowswife · 15/03/2017 12:46

All the EDLers will be reading this down the pub, horrified that an english man would ever leave england hahaha!

I've done stuff like that before so don't worry. It is still really funny though I can't help myself from laughing at the image of the EDL sort on a day out in glasgow hahaha!

Calyx72 · 15/03/2017 12:48

"I'm fed up, seriously fed up, fed up with metropolitan Londonsplainers coming up to Scotland and informing us that we're a bunch of divisive racists for wanting independence. The real fascists in Scotland, the real blood and soil nationalists who hate immigrants, Muslims, and who espouse xenophobia as their policy of choice are far more likely to be found waving a Union fleg than a Saltire. The only people who were convicted of offences of violence related to the independence referendum were supporters of the Union, not supporters of independence.

The actual paid up members of fascist and extreme right organisations in Scotland are overwhelmingly opponents of independence. The people on social media who are most prone to telling others that they can't be Scottish unless they were born in Scotland to Scottish parents are overwhelmingly opponents of independence. Those who want to remove EU citizens from the ballot are overwhelmingly opponents of independence. Those who hate on immigrants and long for an isolationist little country that harks back to a fantasy golden age where everyone was white and heterosexual are overwhelmingly opponents of independence.

Those metrosplainers who condemn the independence movement for its supposed divisiveness and racism never ever notice the great big beam in their own eye marching around their cornea with an Orange sash, a Union fleg, and a fascist salute in defence of Britain. Try and point out to them that of the two sides in the Scottish constitutional debate which has the real problem with xenophobia, intolerance, racism, homophobia and sexism is the Unionist side, and you will be met with howls of outrage at your utter gall in suggesting that supporting the Union makes you a bigot. How very dare you insinuate that ordinary supporters of the Union are creatures cut from the same cloth as members of Britain First or the Orange Lodge.

Yet the very same people will cheerfully slander the entire independence movement on the basis of an anecdote about an English person who went into a pub in the Western Isles and suddenly everyone started talking about him in Gaelic. Everything negative ever said to any English person in Scotland is evidence of a deep dark cancer that lurks at the very heart of the Scottish psyche, but the same remarks made in the English media about Scots are just banter, and it's typical of thin skinned nationalists and their grievance mongering to take offence.m fed up, seriously fed up, fed up with metropolitan Londonsplainers coming up to Scotland and informing us that we're a bunch of divisive racists for wanting independence. The real fascists in Scotland, the real blood and soil nationalists who hate immigrants, Muslims, and who espouse xenophobia as their policy of choice are far more likely to be found waving a Union fleg than a Saltire. The only people who were convicted of offences of violence related to the independence referendum were supporters of the Union, not supporters of independence.

The actual paid up members of fascist and extreme right organisations in Scotland are overwhelmingly opponents of independence. The people on social media who are most prone to telling others that they can't be Scottish unless they were born in Scotland to Scottish parents are overwhelmingly opponents of independence. Those who want to remove EU citizens from the ballot are overwhelmingly opponents of independence. Those who hate on immigrants and long for an isolationist little country that harks back to a fantasy golden age where everyone was white and heterosexual are overwhelmingly opponents of independence.

Those metrosplainers who condemn the independence movement for its supposed divisiveness and racism never ever notice the great big beam in their own eye marching around their cornea with an Orange sash, a Union fleg, and a fascist salute in defence of Britain. Try and point out to them that of the two sides in the Scottish constitutional debate which has the real problem with xenophobia, intolerance, racism, homophobia and sexism is the Unionist side, and you will be met with howls of outrage at your utter gall in suggesting that supporting the Union makes you a bigot. How very dare you insinuate that ordinary supporters of the Union are creatures cut from the same cloth as members of Britain First or the Orange Lodge.

Yet the very same people will cheerfully slander the entire independence movement on the basis of an anecdote about an English person who went into a pub in the Western Isles and suddenly everyone started talking about him in Gaelic. Everything negative ever said to any English person in Scotland is evidence of a deep dark cancer that lurks at the very heart of the Scottish psyche, but the same remarks made in the English media about Scots are just banter, and it's typical of thin skinned nationalists and their grievance mongering to take offence."

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Knew this thread was reminding me of something

Thegruffalowswife · 15/03/2017 12:52

Oh a new word for an english person... metrosplainers Grin

Thegruffalowswife · 15/03/2017 12:54

Is that newspeak for white settler?

Thegruffalowswife · 15/03/2017 12:57

That looked a bit like this but longer

"We're not fascists it's all your fault you white settler, metrosplainer scum"

Hmmm...

trixymalixy · 15/03/2017 13:02

Oh the irony Calyx that the denial is being demonstrated the other way round on this thread!!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 15/03/2017 13:04

Do I count as a metrosplainer when I actually fecking live in Scotland, @Calyx72? Or am I graciously allowed to have an opinion?

Nyx · 15/03/2017 13:06

Trixy, what have I denied?

Calyx72 · 15/03/2017 13:06

"Those metrosplainers who condemn the independence movement for its supposed divisiveness and racism"

If you do the above then you could be a metrosplainer if you want. I don't think it's a real word Grin

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 15/03/2017 13:07

No voters cannot deny that there is a section of their voters who support Britain First, EDL and BNP. It goes back to what Morris said

That is pathetic.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 15/03/2017 13:07

"No voters cannot deny that there is a section of their voters who support Britain First, EDL and BNP. It goes back to what Morris said."

If all No voters are to be tarred with that brush, then all Yes voters must be tarred with the same brush as the unacceptable elements of the Yes campaign, @Nyx.

Calyx72 · 15/03/2017 13:08

'A section of' is not tarring all no voters with the same brush FGS

Thegruffalowswife · 15/03/2017 13:09

Yeah calyx do I count.. my parents are both scottish and I'very lived here for ten years paying taxes and my husband does too and employs scottish people. Are we metrosplainers too?
What about my sister who provides essential services to scottish people in the NHS is she a metrosplainer.

Oh and JK rowling is a metrosplainer too isn't she?

What a great club Grin

Calyx72 · 15/03/2017 13:10

You can be if you want. As I said it's not a real word. That was an opinion blog and I put it up as I feel its point is being illustrated here.

Thegruffalowswife · 15/03/2017 13:12

The metrosplainer club, coming to spread dangerous views that there are more than 5 million people in the world and the ones right next to us are pretty similar really Grin

trixymalixy · 15/03/2017 13:13

Add message | Report | Message poster Nyx Wed 15-Mar-17 11:46:56
That was long ago, trixy. You're reaching.

No denial there, definitely not Hmm.

Thegruffalowswife · 15/03/2017 13:13

"I'm fed up, seriously fed up, fed up with metropolitan Londonsplainers coming up to Scotland

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 15/03/2017 13:13

I'm sure I must qualify as a metrosplainer- a No/Remain voter living in Edinburgh.

Thegruffalowswife · 15/03/2017 13:16

Perhaps you will be less fed up, seriously fed up, fed up when metropolitan Londonsplainers pack up their businesses, stop investing and abandon scotland then?

Calyx72 · 15/03/2017 13:17

Ignore the point if you like Hmm

NoLotteryWinYet · 15/03/2017 13:19

me too - the identity politics is how the yes vote get traction though, it's easy for the SNP to make emotional appeals and populist soundbites about Scotland having control over its own destiny. We need to keep the debate on what this destiny looks like - the weaknesses of the economic case for independence, cost of EU membership, likelihood of Scotland getting into or meeting economic criteria for entry etc.

Thegruffalowswife · 15/03/2017 13:19

Nope I fancied a change from "tory scum" and "white settler" so "metrosplainer" will do for a wee change.

Nyx · 15/03/2017 13:22

"Add message | Report | Message poster Nyx Wed 15-Mar-17 11:46:56
That was long ago, trixy. You're reaching.

No denial there, definitely not hmm."

I said it was long ago, I didn't deny it happened. I've said a few times now there are idiots on both sides.