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ALL NEW Road to Recovery for the Recently Ditched No. 5

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IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 02/07/2010 01:12

Dearly Be-Chucked, we are gathered here today because, for whatever reason, our man has dumped us!

Whether you are a new dumpling or a vet, feel free to join us in our quest for serenity.

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partytime · 08/07/2010 23:06

What a lovely way to view things Tougher, I applaud you x

TougherThanTough · 08/07/2010 23:22

Ok I started smoking again PT and its not POSITIVE in any way shape or form{not judging anyone else just im a bit wheezy anyway}too bloody expensive and i have become addicted v easily this time could always leave it alone b4,i stopped after falling pg.Anyway hoping everyone will send me positive vibes to help me QUIT !

away for my last fag and a barefoot walk on the grass x

Also nothing wrong with being independent i think britain is totally co dependent .People clinging on to each other to get thru life.People rushing home to their other half to bitch about people instead of sorting it out in an assertive way.

This truly is a gift to us if we have the strength to get thru it because we get to see the bigger picture ,we get to heal and ENJOY a truer life and meet a truer self.

No longer do I resent a man that made me unhappy ,I do not resent the chores ,instead i enjoy my work as i nurture my children.

OK away for my last ciggie x

startingovernow · 08/07/2010 23:23

Waves to all............

Am back with my virginity still intact . Went for a lovely meal with a friend & then met up with some other friends after. Lovely night out & resisted all urges to go to puppy.........

Read all the posts & I've certainly never felt "less then" for what xh moved on to! Tough put it v well "the grass was plenty lush at this side" . Party, I was the perfect corporate wife too .

TougherThanTough · 08/07/2010 23:27

I remember a friend of mine having a dinner party for her hs business associates and being thrilled that her souffles had sufficently risen ,is this the kind of high powered stress you were under ladies ?

startingovernow · 08/07/2010 23:35

Christ Tough, no for me anyway tg. I just had to turn up at events looking fab (no prob ) & mingle & enjoy the delights that were served up. To be fair to xh he was always one to make life as easy as possible for me at home. Wouldn't get off his lazy arse much but would pick up a takeaway or pay someone to do whatever need to be done...........

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 08/07/2010 23:35

Evening all, was out tonight which was fun

Although kept thinking of you Starting and wondering what was happening!

MumFun, your words are right "Its all about the failure to navigate midlife of the WS (wayward spouse) - all to do with facing old age, maybe dash of depression, not having faced life and family issues when teenager, other personal issues not dealt with. The OW becomes symbol of new life and hope and casting off the old. Some men do go for the young girls but many dont - they go for women with low integrity who are prepared to date married men and make themselves available"

Bald Eagle's OW was I believe living with her husband when she took up with him. What kind of person does that? ( I guess XH for one). Strikes me they are made for each other, glad I am out of it - I should celebrate.

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startingovernow · 08/07/2010 23:37

Actually he was so lasy he wanted to put one of those porto cabin live in house type things out the back & have live in help . We often argued about it, actually I should have kicked his lazy sorry ass out at that point...........

TougherThanTough · 08/07/2010 23:39

Think we all should have a group hug and celebrate our strength .We are amazing !!!!

TougherThanTough · 08/07/2010 23:40

Dumplings of the world unite !

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 08/07/2010 23:49

What's the expression, united we stand, united we fall? But we ain't falling anywhere. Girl Dumpling power.

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partytime · 09/07/2010 07:01

Bake soufflees, me! Never.

But I did have to entertain clients and their boring wives (sorry, but true) I was always on show at events, upside is I have a great wardrobe and have travelled extensively. I was/am very lucky. We had good times.

But it was all about Mr PT and his career, I was often left at events to entertain myself as well, he would go off and 'press the flesh', networking, whatever, and I would go to the bar , get a G&T and see who I could talk to.

Hence, I am very sociable can talk to anyone and have a repertoire of small talk.

Sadly supporting his high flying career and, looking after DC, a delight of course, has left me now without a career of my own. But it was all about choices and they were the ones we made.

armbow · 09/07/2010 09:04

hi all

another interesting night last night

h came round to see kids. moving on from last night's discussion and me taking back control i told him that his reasons so far were not good enough i was moving on and needed closeure so i backed him into a corner and he told me:

he did not love me anymore, he felt as though he desered a relationship where there were spearks and butterflys again and that he was putting himself first for the first time in years (wtf!!!).

ouch !!!

felt the control slip away as he told me.

spent the night crying in bed. but i did get the closure i needed.

i am so frightened of being on my own though i have never been on my own EVER. facing the world on my own scares the living daylights out of me.

how do other dumplings cope with this fear???

glad you had a nice time starting.

dreams - i believe very firmly in dreams. there is a good website www.dreammoods.com that interprets them for you.

i used to have a recurring dream over the past 2 years. "h used to stood in front of me telling me he could not pretend to loe me anymore"

tougher - good luck quitting. i have neer been a smoker but have been tempted to buy a packet lately for some reason.

mumfun - good synopsis of a midlife crisis there

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 09/07/2010 10:13

AB, sad you had a horrible night.

I think crying can sometimes be cathartic though so it's not a bad thing to do that when you feel like it.

Your H sounds very selfish and may well wonder what he's done when those butterflies lose their colour and drop to the ground.

It might feel scary without him and I felt the same for quite a long time during XH's gaslighting phase. But I also felt much better when I started to focus on me and the DCs and left him to fester elsewhere.

I was reading Red this morning and there was an article on what you'd do if you just had one month to live. Obviously that's not where any of us are but it did make me think about the need to focus on things that you enjoy and matter to you.

Now, in your situation you may think that H matters and so the idea of that could make you sad. But in reality you and the DCs are the ones that matter and there are ways that you can start to enjoy yourself and have some good times. It's just one step at a time. If it helps, after yet another dramatic triangle incident with Bald Eagle some months ago (I've stopped being drawn into those now hopefully) where XH failed to help me with DS, my counsellor said to me "how long ago was it that your XH actually did something for you", and you know I couldn't actually remember it was so long ago - that did make me think a bit and move on in my journey.

So, how to be strong and move forward...does this help? It helped me (it's a bit self help I know but I like that stuff!)

Sharpen the Saw means preserving and enhancing the greatest asset you have--you. It means self-renewal in the four areas of your life: physical, social/emotional, mental, and spiritual. Here are some examples of activities:
Physical: Beneficial eating, exercising, and resting
Social/Emotional: Making social and meaningful connections with others
Mental: Learning, reading, writing, and teaching
Spiritual: Spending time in nature, expanding spiritual self through meditation, music, art, prayer, or service

As you renew yourself in each of the four areas, you create growth and change in your life. You increase your capacity to produce and handle the challenges around you. Without this renewal, the body becomes weak, the mind mechanical, the emotions raw, the spirit insensitive, and the person selfish.

Feeling good doesn't just happen. Living a life in balance means taking the necessary time to renew yourself. It's all up to you. You can renew yourself through relaxation. Or you can totally burn yourself out by overdoing everything. You can pamper yourself mentally and spiritually. Or you can go through life oblivious to your well-being. You can experience vibrant energy. Or you can procrastinate and miss out on the benefits of good health and exercise. You can revitalize yourself and face a new day in peace and harmony. Or you can wake up in the morning full of apathy because your get-up-and-go has got-up-and-gone. Just remember that every day provides a new opportunity for renewal--a new opportunity to recharge yourself instead of hitting the wall. All it takes is the desire, knowledge, and skill.

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Mumfun · 09/07/2010 12:09

AB Sorry you had a bad night and faced your MLCer face on (Midlife Crisis suffering person is an MLCer). It is classic that they want to put themself first. We have to be realistic about this -it really means they are far away from any empathy with us. Some MLCers can get through it (takes several years) and come out of it. Others just run with OW in tow. Nothing we say to them will change them. The classic saying is we didnt cause it, we cant control it, we cant cure it.

Got to let them go on their journey. Let them spin. Ride the horrible rollercoaster ourselves. We need to work on ourselves, look after kids. We CAN control ourselves. The pain is awful but you will come through in the end.

I found it awful in the beginning being on my own. But just by being kind to myself and doing nice things for myself after several months I did feel a difference - I felt better and the nice things started to make me happy. Both my young kids have been amazing to me.

Happy - very good summary of how to work on yourself - like it

TougherThanTough · 09/07/2010 13:54

Thanks Happy really agree its all about looking after ourselves and growing each day ,if you are tired sleep if you are hungry eat ,get outside,sit quietly and read a book ,dont have the telly on as background noise ..turn it off once in a while.

AB I would also think of this as a new chapter in your winding road of life ,you will be fine ,just one day at a time .The sky hasnt fallen in cos he left and you are doing really well keeping things stable for your dcs ,big hugs x

Always love your mlc info mumfun ,think the thing that i read was most of these guys end up in bedsits in 2 or3 years time .Turns out what they were chasing they didnt want anyway.And by the time they work it out we have moved on.

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 09/07/2010 19:38

Evening all

Hot isn't it? BBQ time methinks

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startingovernow · 09/07/2010 19:54

Hasn't stopped raining here since y'day........ (bbq is rusting out the back)

startingovernow · 09/07/2010 19:57

Feels self sliding into depressed state .........

teaandcakeplease · 09/07/2010 20:10

"I know my OW - but she was always quite cool to me but not to my husband - surprise surprise" on yes mumfun, same here

I was also very stepford wifey and tried really hard to please him, keep him happy, be a good wife. My H did decieve me extremely well and I am very trusting and honest, so it never ever occurred to me he could possibly be lying.

Armbow I felt terrified to begin with, but once I had my first solicitor appointment, found out all the help I was eligible for (citizens advice), had set up my own bank account, transferred tax credits and child benefit into it and then had a meeting with the lone parent dept in job centre and realised I was eligible for income support and housing benefit. I suddenly felt happier and calmer and realised I WOULD be fine, get by financially without him and all would be well. Once I began counseling, I slowly realised how unhealthy my marriage was (still am too), how he wronged me and it wasn't all my fault and all sorts of things. It's been so freeing. I now don't even think about him, I actually forgot he was coming yesterday to see the DCs LOL, that's how unbothered I am becoming about him. I really love being here alone with my lovely DCs now. Made brownies and banana cake today, take the kids to lovely parks with paddling pools and sand pits, nice mums and tots groups and get by on Sainsbury's basics but I am happy. I have my moments when I feel very but more happy ones now.

Gather your dignity around you and start to make appointments. My H left me trying to win him back from October 2009 to March 2010 before he finally told me the truth that the affair never ended, he didn't love me etc.

You will be fine and happier without him in due course. Trust me. I sleep so well now, not worrying about where he is, what he's doing, when will he be home, is he telling me the truth etc. I was so paranoid by the end of our marriage. Now I don't even think about him anymore. Truthfully I think I'm starting to not care, he's lost his job, is on JSA, living in his parents house which is vacant as they're selling it. His life is rubbish really.

Mumfun · 09/07/2010 22:34

Tea you are a very strong dignified lady - I toast you (with water

I was also totally trusting with my H - I sometimes forget and still get shocked what he did.

Starting = how are you now? Can you do something to get through tonight like playing some lovely music that you havent heard for a while - and get to the beach tomorrow? (())

Happy - yes well BBQ time here - went to a lovely one tonight. DCs had a great time.

It really is a heatwave here - DCs starting to be a bit tired. 2 weeks of school still to go.

armbow · 09/07/2010 23:23

i would just like to say that you guys really have been such a great source of support thank you so so much

(soppy bit over)

not cried yet today RESUlT !!!

HOT here today

no BBQ for me today. but going off to have fun with the dcs in the sun tomorrow.

good advice Happy about liing life to the full, it may sound very strange and i am a bit to admit it but now that he has gone i am realising how much my world centred around him. i am can't really explain it but it is almost like i was only happy if he was happy ifswim. i let him totally consume me and i allowed that to happen. for example before he would come home from work i would run around a little bit anxious to try and make everything perfect for his return, not because he would be arsey if stuff wasn't right but because i thought it would make him love me more - i was craving his approval basically.

i have a long way to go i think trying to find the old me again,

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 09/07/2010 23:33

Evening all again

AB, I was the same as you and became very dependent on XH/wanting his approval. It took me a while to learn that I could actually do things myself and have more fun without him. It stsrts to feel quite good when you do things for yourself. I can even empty the bins now!

Starting - no sliding please

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startingovernow · 09/07/2010 23:34

There seems to be a trend here as I was also v trusting & honest!

Tea, am envious of your baking skills.

Thanks Mumfun, shouldn't have really used the word depression as tg I've never suffered from it. Have of course times that I feel v depressed about what happened with xh & all the continuing hassle but I think that's prob normal. Today didn't go quite to plan, never got to spa & my poor mother had to abandon plans of nice day at beach as there was so much rain! Will be a long time before I have another dc free night as I don't think she'd the energy to cope with them despite being only 56 . I haven't been sleeping well since I found out what xh was up to & since trouble with access & am worn out from 14/15 hr days with dc's! Despite being on holls will have to try to get eldest back into going to bed at a reasonable hr or I'll crack up if I don't get a bit of time alone by night!

Hope everyone is doing ok.

startingovernow · 09/07/2010 23:42

Evening Happy & Armbow,

Armbow, great that you're feeling so positive. Enjoy the sun, the rain I'm having could be heading you direction . Only joking, hope not .

Happy, have put the brakes on the slide thanks .

Funny, I was completely Mrs Independant. Had full life & social life separate to xh. It still amazes me that the break up actually hit me so hard . Guess it must have been more to do with the betrayal, dv, continuing twuntness etc........

MavisEnderby · 09/07/2010 23:58

Hello ladies I hope you don't mind me crashing your thread.My dp has "left" me in a pretty final way but not through infidelity,so I hope you will indulge me.Not much going on in the LP section and am feeling a little bereft and sad tonight.Have read some of thread and you are all remarkable ladiesIt is SOOOO hot here tonight and cannot sleep.

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