me and alcohol have ruined my family

[jesuswhatnext]

title says it all really - i really cocked up last night, dh walked out, i cant remember what i said to him

today i have actually been in touch with AA but i think its all too late, my dd hates me, as does my parents, yes im feeling sorry for myself right now but i also know i have to change and stop drinking but dont know how.

what can i do to put things right? help me!

[jesuswhatnext]

no , no meeting today, too busy at work, i like the expression 'higher power' as im not sure i believe in 'god' but just feel like there is more to us than just flesh and bones iyswim a soul i suppose

i will look up your suggestions later on, thanks!

[venusandmars]

Yes, with you on the "something more". Now we'd better stop this discussion, or all our usual buddies will think they've gone to the body and soul section of mn, and will run away screaming

[MoominMags]

OK girls you are frightening me, ha! Not really. It's nice to talk about things other than booze that we can actually take an interest in! I am home alone and loving it. Just relaxing and enjoying the peace.

[jesuswhatnext]

hi moomin - home alone too! sorry to scare you - i was trying to explain the philosophy behind the 12 steps to my friends the other night - in the end they were all screeching with laughter and asking when i taking the veil apart from one friend in my circle we are all a bunch of heathens really!

am looking forward to a quiet evening, may do a bit of baking then a nice long bath.

i am still doing the slimfast, i am finding it fairly easy at the mo - dont know if i could do it in winter though when a bit of warming comfort food is whats needed.

no sign of wasindie today! im agog with excitement, do you all think maybe the curry finally worked????

[MoominMags]

HOW EXCITING!! Will be thinking of you and DP over the coming days! The babies are coming! And it's fantastic that you will be drink-free for their arrival.

Yes, was a student at Liverpool Uni - LOVED it! Wasn't that in love with my course but I just love the city. Such a great place! It was a great place to be a student, loads to do, pretty cheap (loads of cheap booze, ha ha! But that was fine in those days, problems did not set in until later so I have great memories of fab nights out.) Can you tell I liked it?!

[jesuswhatnext]

oh x posted!! sorry wasindie! still cant wait for you to post that they are safely here though!! enjoy enjoy enjoy - these babies are the BEST thing that will ever happen to you (apart from grandchildren! )

[MoominMags]

JWN - one of my friends asked if AA was a cult!!

[jesuswhatnext]

btw - my very best wishes to your partner - she has been quite important in this process too!

[jesuswhatnext]

yeah moomin, a few people said that they had heard it was a cult - how strange!

[MoominMags]

Best wishes to your DP from me too!

[MoominMags]

I think it was because I said I was trying to go to 5 meetings a week - she thought it was a bit full on. I explained that the advice is 90 meetings in 90 days when you begin and that's when she asked if it was a cult!! Think she was joking. Maybe!

[jesuswhatnext]

moomin - you sound young enough to know how to set up a new thread and a link please do it for us when this one runs out?

must go and eat something - am a bit hungry!

back later

[MoominMags]

I don't know how to!!!! You set up the new thread - you set this one up originally so you've got lead the next one too! Once you do that I will try with the link-thingy! (Would ask my colleague, she's 19! But don't want to draw her attention to the thread, ha ha!)

[MoominMags]

OK, I have stopped being a baby now. I can definitely set up a new thread (very honoured!) and once I have done that I will do the link. Either by trial and error or I will post and ask one of the clever MN-ers to explain to me how!

[MoominMags]

Great reply wasindie!

[jesuswhatnext]

thanks moomin! i am too busy conquering the booze to learn new 'puter tricks!

ahhh wasinide - pamper that woman! she is a very special lady!!!

fwiw - i dont think pregnant ladies are cherished enough these days! i know its not an illness but its hard work, tiring and emotionally challenging and i think its very special, so there, end of slightly degranged rant

off to do my nails!

[jesuswhatnext]

i might go on a spelling course! (one for beginners obviously!)

[MoominMags]

OK, I think that I will probably get away with setting up the new thread tomorrow... if it all goes crazy through the night someone else will have to do it!

Hope that everyone has had a safe, serene and sober day. Mine has been, well, it's been sober at least!

Sleep well everyone.

[jesuswhatnext]

night moomin! sleep well love!

goodnight everyone else, especially wasindie - one hell of a big day tommorrow! good luck to your family, i think i can speak for all of us in that we will be thinking of you, your dp and the babies all day and tommorrow

WE WILL NOT BE DRINKING!

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[MIFLAW]

Is AA a cult? I'd say not. Apparently, in cults, they try to stop you from leaving ...

Drink in the house? Well, there is a passage in the Big Book that says this is purely down to personal choice. But there is another that's more relevant, though less obviously about the home, iyswim. It says basically that there is nothing wrong with going to a "wet" place (once you reach a certain point in recovery) IF you have a good reason for going there. In other words, go to a party taking place in a pub; but don't hang out in pubs.

My own house is full of drink. This is because my partner drinks non-alcoholically. I wouldn't dream of stopping her drinking and she wouldn't let me anyway. Her bottles are about as relevant to me as her tampons.

If I started keeping bottles around of my own? To be honest, I'd be shitting myself and I would feel, on the sort of level that I wouldn't admit to myself but still couldn't ignore, that I was being VERY foolish.

As ever, just my view.

[MoominMags]

Morning all! Thank you as ever MIFLAW for your words of wisdom - relevant yet hilarious as usual!

wasindie - argh, so excited for you and your dp today! Not sure that you will see this but am sending warm wishes and good thoughts to you both for today. Looking forward to hearing your news. And thanks loads for your lovely words to everyone! I feel the same way about this thread and the people on it. (Getting slushy here too!)

Anyway, day 22 - let's hear how everyone else is doing. We're in this together now x