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just admitted having sex with someone else

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homebirthmummy · 29/03/2010 21:05

I've never posted before, but I really could do with, well I don't actually know what I could do with.

my husband told me 2 hours ago that 4 months ago he had sex with someone else. At his works Christmas party, with someone he works with, and has seen since (taken our 4 year old daughter out with her daughter). In fact, our daughter joined the same ballet class as her daughter under my husbands recommendation, and I've sat with her drinking coffee and chatting shit.

I don't really know the reason I'm posting, I guess I just feel really sad, angry and lonely.

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DuelingFanjo · 30/03/2010 20:33

Absolutely agree with the others RE packing him a bag. Good luck.

Bicnod · 30/03/2010 20:36

Just read this thread. I'm so sorry you are going through this Rooting for you for tonight's meeting x

geordieminx · 30/03/2010 20:51

HB - I am often down near Aintree/Maghull visiting friends, would be lovely to meet up for vodka coffee sometime!

Tanga · 30/03/2010 21:07

Dear HBM - saw your post fairly early on and it brought back a lot of memories for me so have been trying to think what (if anything) would have made me feel better in those early days. I thought now you're out I would take some time to put some words of encouragement together for when you get back, as I'm sure you will be even more confused, tired and emotional.

Being a train wreck for a while is OK. Give yourself tiny goals to achieve - eating some cereal, or making a list. Imagine yourself as someone recovering from a serious disease - be very, very gentle with yourself and avoid stress.

This is how I felt - that the person I thought I was married to(for 10 years) had been murdered. By a completely different person who was now walking around in my beloved husband's body. Wanting to talk to the 'murderer' was like the denial you feel when someone close has died - you just don't want it to be true. You want to make sure that there isn't a glimpse, a glimmer of that lost love. And sometimes if he said the right things (after all, he sounded just like my beloved husband so long as I didn't ask any difficult questions or look at his mobile or open my bloody eyes) I could convince myself that it was all OK! I had woken up and the murder was just a dream!

(Just want to take a moment here to apologise to anyone who might feel offended by the talk of death/murder in this context, i know now it was only shagging but it was how I felt at the time)

Slowly, I realised that the only thing that hed 'died' was my imaginary husband - that actually the real one was always a bit of a sad twat and finding out was the best thing that ever happened.

I hope meeting up with him has helped. My instinct says it won't have. If it hasn't, please take a break from him and his family. Treat yourself to some time when the agenda has you as the first item, not him, or how he feels, or why he did it, or who knows ('cos that little kicker is a real grower)or what he wants or what he should do or what his latest text says or if he's telling the whole truth this time...just you, and how you feel.

Hawklore · 30/03/2010 21:31

I have nothing to add to the excellent advice you've had from many of the wise people on here but just wanted to add my voice to those wishing you well and sending support HBM. Be kind to yourself.

Jajas · 30/03/2010 21:56

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fortyplus · 30/03/2010 21:58

homebirthmummy hope to hear from you later.

Glad too that ILs seem to be on your side not his - I guess they will want to keep an eye on the naughty little boy though!

Hopefully reassuring for you that he's with them and not getting up to more mischief - your MIL is probably desperste to chat with you as sno doubt he will be fearing a loss of contact with the grandchildren if you split up.

You're doing so brilliantly - it's time for you to be utterly selfish (in a good way) and not consider the feelings of others.

ike1 · 30/03/2010 22:17

Tanga so empathise with your description - especially the bit about the lovely hubby really having been a bit of a 'sad twat' all along. The thing you have to reconcile eventually is what is there left to love NOW. Someone who is a cowardly cheat? Not the man you thought you loved.

Good luck love, practicalities first and emotional TLC, perhaps some counselling to follow.

Mermaidspam · 30/03/2010 23:31

Just read the thread and don't have any valuable advice but wanted to offer some more support.

Hope everything went okay tonight. Be strong.

norksinmywaistband · 31/03/2010 07:24

hoping you are ok this morning hbm, and that you achieved what you wanted from last nights meeting with H.
I am hoping that the reason you didn't come back here last night is because you had some RL support from your sis, and managed to get some sleep.

ladylush · 31/03/2010 11:48

How did it go hbm?

Annieoz · 31/03/2010 12:30

I so hope we hear from you soon to let us know you are ok after last night. {{BIG HUG}}

I too am going through some of what you are and can only reiterate what has already been said. Stay strong, don?t make any hasty decisions (I did by taking my DH back ? I loved him so desperately thought I could deal with all the deception and cheating that he?d done with his mistress of 13 months; he walked out on me again 7 weeks after I?d accepted him back because he was still so besotted with her, even though she?d finished with him and told him categorically she?d never leave her partner . . . what a terrible waste of both of our lives, and our daughter).

Time DOES heal ? my DH confessed to me middle of last October and then I found the damning evidence of an email from him to her declaring undying love, never be able to move on from her (he already has!!), his very reason for living was her ? sickening. I am still in a bad place, but my friends and family tell me my ?wobbles? are getting much fewer and longer apart! I DO feel stronger ? but yes, there are days when I really don?t want to face the brutal reality of my sad, out of control, lonely life. And I feel so much pain still that he is ALLOWED to get away with it.

Keep your humour ? that?s really what helps to see me through.

Take care, thinking of you loads
Annie xx

homebirthmummy · 31/03/2010 13:26

Hi everyone.

Sorry for the silence. Just been busy thinking and (my sister has been looking after the kids) so trying to relax too.

The meeting was ok last night. It was good to see him as I could read what he was saying. He isn't a very good liar (and I know he lied to me for 4 months, but in that time we never had any alone time to chat, so i guess he could lie without me seeing it, if that makes sense)

He was an absolute wreck, which, in a way, made me feel better as I was so strong and composed. I did, as one of you lovely ladies suggested, listened to what he had to say. Asked what I wanted and made non committal noises etc. Despite it all I felt very powerful as I know the power now.

He did lie to me when I met him. It was only trivial things, but I could see through them and when I told him to stop lying, he did come clean. I think, again as someone said, he made himself believe what he was trying to convince me of.

He admitted that it only stopped as her husband found out, which I don't think was an accidental finding out as OW asked him to leave me as she was going to leave him. He said he couldn't and 2 days later the OW's H 'accidentally' found incriminating messages.

The thing about my DH is that he is very weak and can easily be manipulated, and I'm not blaming her solely as I know that things work both ways, but part of me thinks she was been very manipulative etc. I mean to sit with me during ballet, ask me to take DC to soft play area with her etc etc. I thought us women were meant to stick together?

Anyway, he didn't once try to blame me, or say it was my fault. He freely admitted that the reason it started (as we all predicted) was after DC2 he had no attention and couldn't cope - oh boo hoo, right!

He started just innocently talking to her (even though as he admitted our relationship was good at the time), as she was a friend to begin with, and she was unhappy too, and I guess it was a nice feeling, having attention, the thrill etc etc. I am not condoning what he did, just trying to put it all together and make sense of it all.

He admitted that he had caused arguments with me in the last 4 months, as he felt shit and it made him feel better to try to blame me.

Annie, I so know how you feel as deep down I do feel the same. I love him so much (you just cant turn love off can you) and he is a good boy man. I think he had a total freak out about responsibility, life, children, work etc. But I mean that is no excuse is it.

My worry, like with your story Annie, is that if I do take him back, what happens if things don't work out between OW and her H. Will he go off with her? He says no, but how can I ever believe that. She sounds so wicked doesn't she. I know I only have DH's word, but he tells me she was wanted to leave her husband, now, I guess as she has no-one, she has gone back to him. And us suckers fall for their, I loves you's and sorry's and we forgive.

So they get to do what they want, knowing they can turn the charm on and all will be ok.

Not really sure how I'm feeling, very confused and lonely I guess xx

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blinks · 31/03/2010 13:36

i'd take that version of events with a pinch of salt.

it's unlikely he was manipulated by her but fancied her and thought he might get away with it.

he'll pin in on her as much as he can so be wary. they are both equally to blame.

well done for keeping your composure but don't worry too much about being in control. you don't lose points by getting angry and/or emotional. he needs to see that.

blinks · 31/03/2010 13:36

in = it

norksinmywaistband · 31/03/2010 13:39

Glad you have come back hbm. Sounds like you had an emotionally exhausting time last night.
I know you feel the strength puling you through, but the emotions normally arrive full pelt when they are out of sight.

Your story sounds more like mine by the post..

My ex also said he was manipulated by her But what I wanted to say that My ex encouraged a relationship between me and the OW. I believe to find out what I was thinking about our relationship, and so I would not find them talking suspicious. - Just be aware the "friendship"
may have been engineered by your H not by her.

Your post talks about feeling stronger and being in the driving seat. You are doing so well

homebirthmummy · 31/03/2010 13:40

blinks - you are right, why do i still want to believe him and trust what he is saying?

I do think he loves me though.

God damn life is so hard isn't it.

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ASecretLemonadeDrinker · 31/03/2010 13:43

"He admitted that it only stopped as her husband found out"

{{hugs}}

homebirthmummy · 31/03/2010 13:44

norks - that is an excellent point. i asked why he put he could let me sit with her etc, he just said he didn't know. and you know what, i did talk about our relationship to her, the bitch. whilst she was texting someone, 10 points if anyone can guess who. i don't know that for a fact, but it doesn't take a genius to work that out.

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norksinmywaistband · 31/03/2010 13:44

You want to believe him, because It is hard for all your illusions about your relationship to be shattered in one fell swoop.

Ex still tells me he loves me - but for me the love started to die when the trust did. I will never 100% believe anything he says and without trust and belief for me there is no relationship.
I don't love him now, but if you asked me 6 months ago, I would say I would love him until my dying day.
It just diminished.

homebirthmummy · 31/03/2010 13:45

i know lemonade so much of it i can come to terms with, so much i can't.

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StarExpat · 31/03/2010 13:46

what did you say to her about your relationship with your h?

homebirthmummy · 31/03/2010 13:52

i know norks, i guess if i can believe him, i can pretend its ok. the stupid thing is i do kinda trust him in some respects. not when it comes to her at all, but i trust he wouldn't go off and have a one night stand.

i am so mixed up at the mo! think i need to change my teaching plan for tonight as i don't think i can talk about relationships!

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ASecretLemonadeDrinker · 31/03/2010 13:53

Was it only the twice? (Sorry if I have missed some details) I totally understand where you are at, my DH did something (albiet 'milder') and the lies more than anything tore me apart. I want to scream leave him, but I know it's not always black and white. Would he have stopped? Was it pre-planned sex, or spur of the moment? What lies were told in order for him to do all this? DH made me out to be unreasonable, told me lie after lie as to why all his texts were missing from his phone - it all ran far deeper than just the 'affair', that was only a part of it. My heart just aches for you

homebirthmummy · 31/03/2010 13:55

i said i thought it was good and he said it was (before it started). he said he felt pushed aside when dc2 was born. not sure if thats blaming, or admitting his feelings?

he also said he knew he had been horrible to me for the past few months.

he has said, over and over and over again, how all he wants is me and to make things right and he'll do anything......

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