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So she went on a "date" with my husband

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MillyMollyMoo · 18/03/2010 18:26

Which I am expected to believe was platonic, at 1am the week before Christmas and now I have been invited out for a night out with a small group where she will be.
Of course I am not actually wanted there at all but I suspect he knows the only way he stands a chance of going is if I am there too.

Would I be unreasonable if I said no and you're not going either ? I can use being pregnant as an excuse frankly I don't want to be socialising at all.

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ASecretLemonadeDrinker · 18/03/2010 19:56

I am just worried living with him will just grind you down rather than making a clean break and going it alone. I guess it's the stress of all this versus childcare/money etc. What if you are doing Uni work and he's 'sleeping at a service station' the night, or whatever he does for a hobby. It would take alot alot of 'hardness' to be able to let that wash over you. And I think you'd end up broken, I really do.

AnyFucker · 18/03/2010 19:56

milly...so you are talking about putting up with the status quo for the next seven years, yes ?

have you any real idea of how much time studying you are going to have to put in (voice of experience)

can you trust your husband to do 90% of the childcare and run the home whilst you study?

with 4 young children?

while has a penchant to dip his ick whenever you feel like...then expect you to socialise while he crows like the fucking cock that he is ?

you are very, very deluded

I am so sorry, but you will be the first person to dip out of medical studies if your situation remains like this

I guarantee it

you would be better getting shut of dickehead, waiting till all your dc are in school, and trying again

there are always second chances in life...you should not have to compromise your self-respect for this

AnyFucker · 18/03/2010 19:59

*dip his wick whenever he feels like it

sorry, I am so angry my typing has gone to shit

AnyFucker · 18/03/2010 20:01

fuck him off...go for shared custody (if he is a decent care-giver)...free up time for studying

he will have to pay for dc's...get every benefit you can as a fulltime student

and no doormat-wifey behaviour required

why would this not work for you ?

MillyMollyMoo · 18/03/2010 20:02

I'm 35 this year, they want me through the five year course before I am 40, I wish I had time to wait but the truth is I am so lucky to have got this last bite of the cherry.

I don't disagree with a word written by anyone but I have no other support expect for him.

It really is put up and shut up and have the last laugh or forget being a Dr.

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junglist1 · 18/03/2010 20:04

I've nearly finished a degree and the money for single mums is OK. Is it the same for medical school, student loans and grants?

MillyMollyMoo · 18/03/2010 20:05

He hasn't got anything to give in the way of financial support and i've been a twat and paid every penny I saved doing up the house which is in his name and paying for the childrens treats/clothes/hobbies all these years.

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MillyMollyMoo · 18/03/2010 20:06

It is junglist, it's just such a long time and the hours are so irregular i'd have to have a nanny which £280 a week in tax credits, whilst not be dismissed, isn't going to cover.

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Janestillhere · 18/03/2010 20:12

You are married yes?

You will, as far as I am aware, with what you have done bringing up the children etc, be entitled to more than half the equity in the house, his name or yours.

Go see a solicitor. asap.

JeremyVile · 18/03/2010 20:17

What a horrible situation, your head must be all over the place.

I completely get why you would want to keep things as they are, but I'm afraid I agree with the others that I just cant imagine how you'd be able to do that.

I also think that his fidelity is not worth having if you're having to enforce it by keeping him on a short leash.

If you're really only in this now for his practical support then why not just accept that he may well go off and shag this woman (again)? Are you still invested in the marriage or are you worried that he may be the one to pull the rug out from under you if he gets the chance?

I dont know the answer, I just think its not going to be easy, even possible, to carry on as you are. You're talking years here... there must be another way surely?

AnyFucker · 18/03/2010 20:20

seven years...minimum

teaandcakeplease · 18/03/2010 20:22

Yeah I would go too - to see how they are together and to present a united front. Maggie is right, that is probably the best thing to do to send the message, it's over, no chance etc. BUT and it's a big but, your husband has not come clean and has not provided any evidence it's over has he?

Trust your instincts, when my hubby did come clean he said every time I got suspicious, I was always right, he said somehow I always knew. Your paranoia is probably spot on too.

I feel perhaps the reason he is not disclosing anything is a lingering loyalty to the OW and that is why he is not revealing any details or the truth.

Until he becomes completely transparent about any contact he has with her and shows it to you if an e-mail or text and his replies etc. You cannot start to even try and build up some trust again.

This situation is not healthy for you or your children due to the underlying tensions and open conflict there maybe. He may prefer to put the topic of the affair in a locked box - but secrecy fuels obsession, obsessive thoughts about her maybe intensified by refusing to discuss the affair. Sharing information about the affair, will allow you both to let go. Until you take steps to grapple with shattered assumptions and construct a story about the affair that make sense to you, you will be prone to obsessing until healing is complete.

In an e-mail to my husband who had an affair I included a lot of the above and it was that which finally made him come clean with the solicitors appointment I'd booked as well. I'd got tired of him disappearing and coming home with an excuse every time. So finally got firm with him. That was the breakthrough. It may not be the same for you but I think you need to somehow get him to have a reality check as well.

I'm sure you've been recommended this book already but the Shirley Glass book called Just good friends is very helpful. Until I read this I didn't realise so many things. Its eye opening. You need some clear boundaries now.

Btw the state would take care of you with 3 kids! I should know, I have 2 and I'm separated now! Sure your standard of living maybe a little different but it can be done! Don't stay for money if you don't want to try and save your marriage. That's not a good enough reason to. Kids will pick up on it and it may do them more harm than good.

Anyway it's taken me ages to type this, so I hope the conversation hasn't moved on too much in the meantime.

ThatVikRinA22 · 18/03/2010 20:24

there is something else that no one has thought of MMM - what if he continues to shag his "friend" until HE decides to leave you?

something will give - you cant put up with this for 5 years - what if he decides he has had enough living a lie and decides to go off with the OW?

lets see his choices are:

live at home with 4 DC and a wife he no longer loves or respects

live with single women with no ties and re light his fire and be a part time father - best of both worlds

what do you think he will choose?

sorry to be blunt OP but i seriously doubt both of you can sustain this level of indifference for 5 years.

ASecretLemonadeDrinker · 18/03/2010 20:28

I was just thinking that - he may suddenly leave you and it'll be even worse

AnyFucker · 18/03/2010 20:29

vicar...your first choice in your scenarios should also include...

"why should I stay and finance the studies of my wife who doesn't trust me, and who I don't respect anyway..."

off he fucks to OW (or some other OW...)
and leaves OP in the shit

vicar...I will say it again...seven years

GypsyMoth · 18/03/2010 20:32

milly,you said on another thread a couple of weeks ago that you have savings in an 'escape fund'....(now i know why)....can't you use those to help you??

MillyMollyMoo · 18/03/2010 20:32

Thank you TEAANDCAKE I'll have a look in the library, on the way to the solicitors it would be good to get some advice no matter what. It's not just the money who else could I call if theatre over ran and I need the children looked after til 9pm, things like that.

ANYFUCKER - I know, but it might not be, I was thinking just a moment ago, in 3 years I'll have a 13, 11 and 9 year old and a toddler at nursery, suddenly I can then put two on the school bus and only have to pay for afterschool/nursery for two, it's doable then.

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ThatVikRinA22 · 18/03/2010 20:35

sorry AF - 7 years then.

same thing only 2 years worse for OP...

MillyMollyMoo · 18/03/2010 20:37

It's not really enough if I'm honest blondes I'd be better off giving him the money and telling him to go.

Oh and I have worried about him leaving me. If anything it's given me an kick up the arse to make sure I got that place because currently she is everything I used to be and am not now, haven't been for a long time and that hurts.
She isn't in a good place financially either though, tons of debt, maybe they are biding their time, who knows.

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AnyFucker · 18/03/2010 20:37

milly, I don't want to piss on your parade, I really, really don't

but I don't think this is doable, sorry

medical studies require all else to be under control and stress-free

because they are stressful enough in themself...about a thousandfold more than you think they will be

you will drop out love...you are not in a good position to do this

teenage stuff..a toddler..and a husband with a wayward willy

no

GypsyMoth · 18/03/2010 20:42

sorry but i had to at 'wayward willy'!!!

i see Milly.....well i was doing an ou degree when i was with the ex...and it didnt work in the end,thought i could stick it out,but no. many reasons,but it wasnt doable,had 4 dc at that point too.

you'll be fine on your own you know....i know from other threads you're strong. good organisation and some support,you'll be able to work it out

MillyMollyMoo · 18/03/2010 20:42

Ok, the other option then is that I leave him and the children and send him £100 a week maintenance and have them at weekends, I've thought about it but I don't think I have it in me.

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MillyMollyMoo · 18/03/2010 20:44

Gobby and strong are not the same thing Blonde but thank you.
Am going to sign off for the night otherwise i'll get all upset again.

Thanks for everyones kind words/kicks up the arse I do appreciate it.

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Eurostar · 18/03/2010 20:45

Milly - having read a previous thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/861437-You-never-close-your-eyes-when-I-kiss-your-lips I can't help thinking that if your DH finds a woman who enjoys his kisses, he is going to find it very hard to remain faithful to you.

It sounds like an awful situation for all of you to be living in. Sorry to not be able to say anything more constructive.

junglist1 · 18/03/2010 20:46

Yep my third year would have been messed up if fat twat was still here. As it turned out he was made redundant just after he left anyway so he would have been useless financially too HA HA

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