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The almost interesting saga of the almost-OM update

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HesterPrynne · 08/02/2010 17:42

Sorry, I had hoped to come back before the original thread disappeared off the first page, but then... nada.

As you may remember I had emailed a local counsellor, but H persuaded me not to make an appointment, but to save, money and neuroses, for Relate, which he absolutely promised to arrange.

So far nothing's happened... "I've been too busy, will do it tomorrow." "They're not answering the phone/email" "They said I had to confirm the date (poss this Wed) with you, now they're not answering again," are a selection of the excuses I have been given.

Now even asking about it causes snappiness and sulks.

I'm really tempted to say, if we're not in a conversation with a third party by Wednesday night, then that's it - you'll have confirmed our marriage is not your priority.

Can't decide if that's a fair ultimatum or not.

Still trying hard to keep almost-OM at more than arms length, but its so difficult when things are so tense at home.

And although I haven't come completely clean, I have told H that my vows are under considerable strain, but my intention is to make our marriage work if he'll work with me. No real sign of that yet, though

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BelleDameSansMerci · 24/02/2010 21:56

Left hand alarmingly empty! Ended up "talking" all the way from Newark to King's Cross, He was actually a really nice chap but not remotely cute! He was very sweet (how damning is that???) and spend the journey telling about his depression and how he had come close to ending it all. He seemed to have had a really difficult upbringing and was very unhappy. All very sad and, as I said, really nice but not remotely fanciable, Porr chap!

BelleDameSansMerci · 24/02/2010 21:57

Poor chap, even. On last train home - two glasses of champagne the worse for wear...

mrshomercream · 25/02/2010 04:34

Ooh blimey, he needs to work on his chatting up technique.

Two glasses of champagne? Not a bad day's work, then

And yes, I am up at four thirty five. Don't ask.

BelleDameSansMerci · 25/02/2010 08:43

How can I not?

I finally got home at 00:30 and my exP was looking after DD. Why, I would like to know, was she up at that hour?? Apparently she'd woken up and he thought it would be a good idea to keep her up until I got home because then she wouldn't wake up too early this morning. She woke up at the same time as usual; I'm up (we're running v late as I am a bit tired because said child didn't go back to sleep until 2am) and he is still asleep in the spare room. I'm not his mother, however, so he can stay there until he wakes up. How childish am I? Can't think why we split

HesterPrynne · 25/02/2010 11:26

Hi. Hope everything's ok Mrshomercream. Namechange, deleting and up at 4am have me very worried.

I went out for just one drink last night with a work friend, turning down AOM in the process, which made feel very proud of myself

Several large glasses of wine later and I think I might have found the answer to my 'problems', more girlfriends

We talked about the same things we have, but with the added benefit of her knowing AOM, and she echoed pretty much everything you have.

I wonder if I was so desperate to unload about H, and foolishly chose a man's shoulder, it all got far too complicated. Had I stuck to women friends for rubbish-man debriefing it would all been far less of an issue. And perhaps not deteriorated so far.

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HesterPrynne · 25/02/2010 11:30

And I'm really sorry that it was me being nosy which seems to have caused your problems

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BelleDameSansMerci · 25/02/2010 11:42

mrshomer - are you there? Are you ok? Can you tell us about things? Sorry couldn't really "talk" on the train but didn't want Mr Sad to be reading over my shoulder plus he was keen to talk.

Hester sounds like you had a good day? Do you feel happier?

HesterPrynne · 25/02/2010 11:55

I'm really worried about MrsHomer, now Belle. It would be awful if in trying to help me, I've made things worse for her

I was feeling happier, if a little hungover, this morning. For the first time in ages, I actually think there may well be something to salvage from my marriage.

It's hard to put my finger on, but it feels like there has been a shift in my perception of it all somehow, which has given me a glimpse of hope. That sounds a bit hi-falutin, but I'll work on a better description

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BelleDameSansMerci · 25/02/2010 12:03

Hopefully we'll hear from MrsHomer soon. She may be busy with her dogs or, hopefully, is now sleeping in following her early morning activities. I'm worried too... Fingers crossed we hear soon.

I'm glad you're feeling more positive. It's great to hear the change in your "voice".

mrshomercream · 25/02/2010 13:47

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HesterPrynne · 25/02/2010 13:55

Phew! I'm so pleased everything's OK, well circumstances permitting

I'm going to have to rethink my image of you now with the name change, you're not the same person at all. It's very disorientating

I have to dash to work now, but will be back, hopefully with a better explanation of my perception shift and some strong words for you MrsHomer.

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mrshomercream · 25/02/2010 13:58

Oh, I'm still me.

Still Wodehousian, still daft.

Bracing self for strong words.

BelleDameSansMerci · 25/02/2010 14:05

Perfection can be sooo dull, mrsh...

mrshomercream · 25/02/2010 14:15

Can't it just?

Moral high ground was giving me a nosebleed

Don't know why I'm laughing. It's hysteria, I think.

I'm liking Mrs H. I feel like a cleaner in a seventies sitcom!

BelleDameSansMerci · 25/02/2010 15:22

LOL @ cleaner...

Are you ok? Really?

mrshomercream · 25/02/2010 15:36

Yes, very, and no, not at all.

But that's the result of crappy choices.

Need to slap self, really quite hard.

Or, if you wouldn't mind living up to your name, show me no mercy, beautiful lady.

BelleDameSansMerci · 25/02/2010 18:22

Too late - I'm donning the thigh boots and cracking the whip as I type .

Oh how I wish I could don some big judgy pants for you (is that sounding even more pervy? ) but I'm afraid I can't.

What I would ike to understand is what led to your "blip" (as I shall call it). Have you been having a more difficult time than you've been expressing? None of this is any of my business but if I were lucky enough to be your nosy neighbour with friendship privileges I would ask you how you were feeling.

I've had one of those days where I've found that someone I trusted has misled me (lied would be a bit harsh but economical with the truth to their advantage would be spot on). Really taken the wind out of my sails but I'm sure I've got enough hot air to fill them again. Just feeling like a bit of an idiot but nothing new there.

mrshomercream · 25/02/2010 19:00

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BelleDameSansMerci · 25/02/2010 19:12

Ah, well, I'm sorry but I think that a blip under those circumstances is completely understandable. Sorry but I think I'll have to take the boots off (might keep the whip though).

I keep typing and erasing because I can't find the right words. I don't think you've done anything wrong. I'm sorry but I just don't.

I'm a hypocrite. I am great at advice for others but rubbish at following it myself. I knew I was being deceived but it was an intellectual knowledge not an actual or emotional knowledge. Now I know my worst suspicions were right, I feel duped and a bit sick. I can't elaborate because I feel so, so stupid and admitting that I finally kinow something Ive pretended to know all along (but not really believed) is just too embarrassing. I'm not being cryptic and hope it's not too annoying that I won't elaborate.

mrshomercream · 25/02/2010 19:32

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BelleDameSansMerci · 25/02/2010 19:41

Oh mrsh...

I don't know what to say except that we're only human. We do things for ourselves and end up hating our potentially selfish behaviour but you have to look after yourself and if there is only one place you can go when you need comfort or consolation you will go there. I would have done. Anyone would.

Now, mrsh, we've had our tea and a chat, so get busy with that duster!

mrshomercream · 25/02/2010 19:45

Rightyo, Mrs Belle. Is there anything special you'd like me to do today, or shall I just give everything a good going over?

(God, everything's coming out pervy today. Is it a full moon?)

Thanks for your kind words. I fear they're more than I deserve, but it's nice to hear them anyway.

BelleDameSansMerci · 25/02/2010 19:47

They aren't. They really aren't. Could you try to treat yourself with the same kindness you'd give to Hester or me? Why don't you deserve the same compassion?

It is nearly a full moon...

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HesterPrynne · 25/02/2010 20:00

Sorry I'm so late and that you're so down tonight MrsH.

Not, I'm afraid, that I can add anything to Belle's wise words.

I think MrsH's inner parent has done enough telling off for one day and I want to be the soothing grandma, stroke your hair and murmur soothing nonsenses.

And besides I'm just as bad: after waking up feeling that I had glimpsed the light, was as bright and breezy as I've felt in ages. So what do I do, without even thinking about it, I contact AOM to share my relative sense of well-being - duh [shame].

So now I'm back to square one, never even occurred to me share my good mood with H.

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