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Should I tell

258 replies

handmedownqueen · 29/10/2009 22:43

My lovely DH that I went to bed with an old friend. I love DH and have no excuses for it except a mini midlife crisis and feeling a lot of stress at present with work kids etc. Drank far too much and succumbed. It wasn't even much good and certainly made me feel I was missing nothing. I'm not going to benefit anyone by telling am I?

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purplepeony · 02/11/2009 16:59

No it won't . Only if you are found out, or the other person asks a direct question!

handmedownqueen · 02/11/2009 17:01

As the person who started this thread I have the greatest admiration for those of you in long relationships ( mine is 20 years ) and have kept the spark alive and the sex great
I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that in all the years of having babies building a career and a home that the real you and the relationship has got lost along the way
that fling provided me with release. I'm ashamed of it and it wasn't that brilliant ( sex with. DH is obviously a lot better than I thought it was)
human emotions and relationships are complex. I know a lot of this is midlife crisis type stuff and it's almost like I'm being shaken up a bit to allow me to move on to the next stage of my life
I do worry that the temptation will remain now I've broken the taboo of faithfulness. I also work in a very sexually charged environment with a lot of blokes ( can't say what I do) I broke my rule of not socialsing with work mates when the fling happened

OP posts:
SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 02/11/2009 17:02

Will you be able to keep the secret? Or will you get nervous and go red when you're watching eastenders and someone's cheating iyswim

countingto10 · 02/11/2009 17:06

Handmedownqueen, is it possible/would you consider changing your job - difficult I know in current climate ? Apparently if you work in an environment where infidelity is the norm/not frowned upon then it does not seem so wrong IYSWIM.

You need to surround yourself with "friends of the marriage" and ask yourself the question "Are they friends of my marriage?". This is something I ask my DH to do. Is this particular person a friend of my marriage? Should I be socialising with him atm why I am trying to heal my marriage ?

handmedownqueen · 02/11/2009 17:23

That's a good way of looking at it the concept of a 'friend of the marriage'. Unfortunately I guess I just joined in with the mentality of everyone I work with. I love my job thou and would hate to give it up

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Fizzfiend · 02/11/2009 17:28

honesty is not the best policy. No, no, no. He will probably never forgive you. Just stick it in the back of your head and forget about it. Nobody is perfect so don't beat yourself up...but try not to do it again :-)

purplepeony · 02/11/2009 17:40

Oh FF- what a nice, simple, sensible post. I hope that can be the end of this sad tale!

countingto10 · 02/11/2009 17:42

handmedown, maybe you really do need to consider changing your job, for the sake of your marriage. What is more important ?

And start having fun with your DH. Another thing me and DH have learned from our experience is that we have to put our masrriage at the top of our list of priorities, before work and before the children. Without the marriage, everything will fall apart, the security of the DC and the business etc.

My DH had a major mid life crisis (turn 40 last month) together with other major problems relating to business/financial stuff, 4 DC with 2 with SNs. Life was a bowl of crap for both of us and as the therapist said, my DH "filled up with the wrong type of fuel (ie OW)". Everyone makes mistakes and hopefully learn from them. I have changed too, it wasn't just my DH who had to make changes and I am sure your DH has some faults and could handle things differently for you.

It does sound like your work environment may be a problem though.

SolidGhoulBrass · 02/11/2009 17:42

Please bear in mind, OP, that contary to some of the unreasonable hysteria you;ve been exposed to on here, what you did was NOT THAT BAD. No one is dead, or injured. It was just sex. It doesn't matter very much.Just put it out of your mind and move on - unless it has made you think that maybe your marriage needs renegotiating.

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 02/11/2009 17:46

surely that depends on how much the OP and her DH value fidelity and honesty

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 02/11/2009 17:47

OP - Glad you came back, especially since this thread seems to have degenerated somewhat and has moved far away from your original plight.

I think it's really healthy that you are now seeing that this was a message to you. I also think you're wise and very self-aware to recognise that now that taboo has gone, you are more vulnerable.

I understand so much of what you're saying about how work, family and just keeping the show on the road each day gradually erodes your sense of self. And keeping the spark alive in long marriages can be difficult - but it's worth it if you love each other and see a life together after the children have left home.

What you should perhaps reveal is how you think your husband would react if you did 'fess up?

It seems to me you have a few likely scenarios ahead of you:

  • You tell your husband, apologise profusely, but he is too hurt to continue the marriage and ends it. Personally, I don't think that's likely, if he loves you and values the family and everything you've worked for. But there will be terrible hurt pride going on too and he'll probably need some time to lick his wounds and might say it's over without really meaning it.

I'd echo what Happy Woman and Counting have said. Infidelity is one of those things that we all would have said we couldn't countenance - until it happened to us. I respect others' views on this and would have said the same, but believe me, you just don't know until faced with it. If you really love someone, have had many years of happiness and fidelity with them and they are truly and genuinely sorry for what they have done, it's very hard (and some might say foolish and selfish) to walk away.

  • You tell your husband, apologise profusely and explain why you think this has happened. Tell him that you respect him too much to hide a secret, but that you don't want the marriage to end, you love him and want you both to work on reviving your relationship. Again, expect anger and hurt, but try if you can to get him to see that you felt that the greater wrong was in having a secret from him.
  • You keep this a secret, never do anything else with another man and fail to address what's behind this. This will, I think, lead to an embittered, stagnant middle age.
  • You keep it a secret, but subconsciously see it as a "gateway" infidelity and start to look for openings outside of the marriage.

A lot depends on what you want out of life, OP. I think you might actually have the chance of a truly intimate marriage, but it depends whether that's something you want.

If you think that actually, you do want to explore options outside of the marriage, then that's a shame, but perhaps your marriage wasn't built for the long haul.

But trying to step into your DH's shoes, not telling him is I think, denying his choices in life. For all he knows, he is unwittingly signing up now for repeated infidelity - and denying people choices doesn't sit easily with me at all.

The friend I was telling you about in my earlier post incidentally regards the "secret" years as wasted years. They did have a host of other problems as well as her one-off (very similar to yours) act of infidelity and a lot of them she failed to confront because of her guilt. I'm glad to report that through counselling, they managed to establish that they had both behaved very badly to one another indeed over the years and that her infidelity was just one of a number of marriage-reducing behaviours. They are now closer than ever - something she feels they could have achieved years earlier if she had come clean and confronted what was happening to her relationship as a result.

purplepeony · 02/11/2009 18:12

OP_ I think you should focus less on what you have done with the other man, and more on what you want now out of life.

That might be leaving your marriage, it might be doing more adventurous stuff, ( I don't mean in bed) and finding your sense of self again.

It is not clear from what you have said whether you want to stay with your DH or not.

Would you consider talking all of this over with a counsellor, to enable you to see what you want out of life now? With, or without a man/men in it.

mathanxiety · 02/11/2009 18:17

"the real you and the relationship has got lost along the way".

Who you are today is the real you. Who you were twenty years ago was you back then. The real you lives in the real relationship right now, in 2009, not 1989.

Are you prepared to work hard every day of your life from now on to live in the here and now and acknowledge that you have a responsibility to your DH and family to do that, and stop mooning about everything you have lost while having a loving DH and nice family and a career you love on top of it all?

If you tell your DH, are you prepared to go over every detail of what you did, one time or one thousand times, every time your DH asks, whether you feel like rehashing it yet again or not? Are you prepared to leave your job if your DH, post disclosure, says this might help him regain his trust in you? Whether you tell or don't tell, you need to undergo a major attitude adjustment.

handmedownqueen · 02/11/2009 18:55

Thanks for those wise words. Tbh I think the sex bit is the bit my DH would cope with best as he is wise enough to understand that there is a hell of a lot of readjustment that needs to be done and theinfidelity is a tiny bit of a bigger picture. No 1 probably giving up my job. I'm not prepared to do that so feel I shouldn't tell and try to work it out on my own
I do want to stay married. I do love my DH. I do want to raise my kids in a loving family home. But I do feel I'm lost in the midst of everyone elses needs. I would never find a better bloke than the one I've got but the temptation to run away from the responsibility get drunk and give into a bloke who's been flirting with me for years got too much.
I may also be suffering from a bit of burnout as I work flat out, doing night shifts to fit in with family life. I'm chronically underslept and pressured. Yet I do love my job. I did use to love family life too but have really lost my enjoyment of that recently

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mathanxiety · 02/11/2009 19:29

OP, next time you want to get away from it all, go and get a nice massage. Remind yourself every day how lucky you are. If drinking is going to be a problem, then you must address that too.

And don't overestimate the patience and understanding of anyone when faced with a disclosure of this kind, or anticipate what they may or may not focus on. When you tell someone something like this, they are in the driver's seat. They have the wheel, and you will never get it back. And they may resent you giving them this role. You are no longer in control of the consequences no matter how much you long for a good outcome.

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 02/11/2009 19:31

So is the biggest bar to telling him that you think he'd insist you give up your job? If so, are there any compromises - a transfer to another department, for example? Could you set those wheels in motion and then tell him?

Some jobs and workplaces seem to celebrate adultery - or at the least tolerate it - and I could understand very well if your husband wanted you to cease all contact with the old friend. To be honest, I'd hope you would want to as well.

KimiTheThreadSlayingRocket · 02/11/2009 19:54

Keep your mouth shut, why cause pain to your hubby just to make you feel better about what you did.

Also if you did not use protection get yourself checked out before you sleep with your hubby as poor man does not deserve a nasty rash

Malificence · 02/11/2009 20:45

You have a fair point PP.
BUT, the OP actively chose the option of infidelity - she went looking for it, where was her concern for her family then?

I admit I don't "get" infidelity via meaningless sex - sex is a big deal to me so I can't understand the separation of love and sex (in a relationship), they are one and the same to me.

Believe me when I say my marriage has not always been easy - watching your husband go to war for 6 months when you have a 6 month old baby is the hardest thing in the world - as is watching your neighbour, his wife and baby daughter be murdered by the IRA - can you imagine the strain that places on a young couple?
Perhaps that's why I have little sympathy for people suffocated by the "pressures" of normal, everyday life - they really don't know what pressure is.

I still feel that complete honesty is the only way to go in a relationship, but hey, I'm smug in my ivory tower so what do I know?

KimiTheThreadSlayingRocket · 03/11/2009 08:05

OP I think giving up your job could be a good thing, as clearly you can not cope with a husband, children, home and a job.
Also stay away from the alcohol if it is a problem for you, if you can not have a few drinks without hopping in to bed with who ever is about then keep off the booze.
you did a bad thing not your DH so you have to live with the guilt of that, why should your DH endure the pain? and it will have a knock on effect on your children, because no matter how much you think your DH will see the bigger picture, the first thing he will see is a wife who behaves like a common slut, and the anger will be there and so will hate and pain and sadness, you can not expect him to not show this.

Next time you want a break from the old routine may I suggest you go for a spa day.

How would you feel if your DH was fed up with the drudgery of the day to day and went out humping "old friends"?

purplepeony · 03/11/2009 08:13

""BUT, the OP actively chose the option of infidelity - she went looking for it, where was her concern for her family then?""

Mal- the mistake you are making is trying to attribute logic to emotions- we all do things that are silly and mistakes in retrospect. If you cannot or will not accept that then no one can convince you. You seem to expect humans to be perfect.

On the other points you make- I think we should start our own thread if you want to carry on with our debate by the way- there are a few isues.

one, you do have a very romantic view of sex- I have not always loved the men I've slept with though I have always liked them a l ot. It doesn't surprise me that you cannot see this if it has never been your ecperience. You are putting sex on a pedestal.

Second, your exeperience in the forces is you must admit, not mainstream life- tragedies occur to people in all walks of life, not just the forces- who are you to say that anyone whos faces death in the forces is any different from anyone else whose loved ones die in a road crash?

I am sorry but you do seem to have a very intolerant view of life, based on may years living in an institution, which is not actually the real world in many ways. Granted you are not living a forces life now, but it does seem to have made you very hard and intolerant, as does your very one-sided view of sex, unless it is in a marriage or loving relationship.

and you have still never answered the question what if by telling it breaks up a home- how does that square with your morals- truth at any price? I don't think so.

mother3 · 03/11/2009 09:18

i would just like to coment.i am very 1 sided but wot would be the point of telling him.Just live with it BUT make sure it never happens again.Also get checked out cause the person u had sex with doesnt sound like he has any morals.

HappyWoman · 03/11/2009 09:46

The point of telling is being able to have an open relationship and the op has said now that the taboo has been crossed she is worried it could happen again.

I think the op has been very honest with us - and the reason for telling he h is to have that same level of trust with him as she has with us.

She has also been honest and has admitted that she was selfish - which i think is a good way forward.

If the lesson has been truly learned and will never happen again then there is less reason to tell him but i think i would be afraid of the reasons it happend and think to continue to allow her h to have a belief in his marriage is wrong.

It is nothing to do with offloading her guilt as i really dont think this will happen unless she want the relationship to end as it will give him h a 'get out' option.

thesecondcocking · 03/11/2009 10:09

mal, i find you very judgemental and very harsh-you've made it quite clear through this thread that you think the op is a bit of a slag and that you want her to suffer. she is suffering,she needn't be hauled through the town tarred and feathered so everyone else gets to judge too.
I have been avoiding saying this to you but in my opinion marrying at 18 and then being moved around the country with your partners job and having little control over your adult life (where you live/what job you do etc etc) has possibly clouded your judgement.

gonnabehappy · 03/11/2009 11:09

Having been on the receiving end of an affair I have thought long and hard about this. Some really good points have been raised (and some harsh judgments), I suspect you have thought about all these points (and have probably made even harsher judgments about yourself).

On balance, if there is NO chance of your husband finding out and if you have a genuine desire to work at your relationship don't tell him. It will cause him pain. If neither of these things are ABSOLUTELY correct you should tell him

This book; www.amazon.co.uk/When-Good-People-Have-Affairs/dp/0312563442/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1 257246346&sr=1-2

dos not recommend affairs of any type, it does however suggest that good people can have affairs and outlines many of the arguments on this thread sympathetically. I think it is well worth a read.

butterballs · 03/11/2009 11:39

I wonder how many men who have had a one night stand would agonise like this? While I am sympathetic, I do find the whole drama attached to this sort of thing quite - melodramatic. I think it is because I experienced my parents going through it all for years on end and it has made me quite pragmatic about relationships. Sometimes I find the whole dramatic debate about monogamy/marriage/divorce etc quite tiresome and just think: oh for god's sake get on with it, at least you are still alive.

Sorry - not helpful but personally I couldn't bear to live in a Wagnerian opera. I'd rather my husband just went off and had a bit on the side, if that is what he wanted, without endless moral dramas and debates and I can get on and do whatever I want to do.

Get on and enjoy your life and leave the moral debates to a debating society. That's what I would do....

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