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Partner has gone away for a few days to a hotel with another woman

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desolate · 13/10/2009 12:25

Hi!

Is there anyone out there who can find a few kind words for me please?

I've been with my partner for four years and we've lived together for most of that. I will be 50 on 3rd November and was hoping for a surprise from my partner for my birthday. The surprise has come early.

About six weeks ago I saw him making furtive mobile calls and when I checked his mobile found several late night texts saying things like "I love you so much". I asked him about it and he told me without any concern for my reaction that they were from a woman he had dated 10 years ago and had recently refound on FaceBook. They'd met up since. He said that she was in the process of a divorce.

He's been getting behind at work recently so I've spent a few weekends helping in the office and I found a letter from her in which she said that she was staying with her husband (2nd one) because her kids needed to stay at their school but hoped N would wait for her. She said that fate had brought them together again and there was lots of undying love stuff.

I decided to do my best to repair my relationship and asked him what his plans were. He said he didn't know and was confused. I asked if he had plans to see her again soon and he said probably not.

He came home last night and said that our relationship was over and that he was heading off today to treat her to a hotel stay till Sunday, when he will come home, so that they could see how they got on - her husband thinks she's gone to see a girlfriend.

My world has fallen apart. Does anyone have a kind word for me or any advice as to how best to navigate such a painful situation. I will be really grateful. Thank you.

OP posts:
ThatVikRinA22 · 08/11/2009 15:46

the thing is its so easy to see the answers when its not YOU in the thick of it. The guy has had an illicit affair, and its taking Desolate some time in getting her head around, especially as he had allayed her fears once by saying he wasnt going to see the other woman any more.

so maybe she is burying her head in the sand, i wonder how many would do the same in her position. 4 years is a long time, its not easy to just up and leave when youve got your life and love invested in someone. ive never been in this position thank god, but in her situation id be dazed and confused aswell. people treat relationships in such a throwaway manner, when its not them on the receiving end.

if the guy has made it quite clear that its over then yes, desolate will have to accept it sooner or later, but it cant be easy. cut the OP some slack. its easy to say youd just leave when its not you its happening to.

groundhogs · 08/11/2009 16:17

But we here are so often pro-female, cos we are the majority, and 'Grr, aren't men arses?'.

It often does help to reverse the genders to see a different perspective. For us to self check our position and fairness.

I've been following and posting on this thread pretty much from the beginning, and I'm now finding myself unable to shake it from my head. It bothers me constantly, it's really got under my skin.

I genuinely don't understand why dear desolate is continuing to put herself through all of this when she literally has every single option she needs at her disposal, to get herself out of it. I whole-heartedly agree with QS recent post, it is exactly where my own mind has taken me these last few days. I was going to back off this thread, because it IS affecting me too much, but at the heart of all these words on a screen lies a woman that so badly needs help, so badly needs to DO SOMETHING.

I've been hit, when I was in another country, what saddened me most was that if I were to ask any female with more than a single brain cell what to do, the screamed answer LEAVE FGS WOMAN, would have been deafening.

The reality however was that I would not have physically been able to get my stuff and my DS down the 4 flights to the street. I couldn't communicate with anyone, my position as a female, and one that had been hit would not have been viewed with anything resembling compassion, more likely I'd have been targetted for more abuse by others.

I also would never have been able to hire a cab, Lord knows where I'd have ended up. Where to go too?, my only friend was travelling, and the last possible resort, the airport was 3 hours away. I was utterly trapped.

desolate is none of these things. She has a flat of her own, a car, a big one, that can take the bulk of her essentials in one go, and she has the time to do it. She needs no help, real help from anyone, she could do it all by herself, but for some reason is choosing not to.

Is she in denial? Is she deluding herself that it'll all turn out OK if she just sticks around? Lord no, it will never do that.

How can anyone unlock that door for her? how can we help her find her way out?

We've begged, shouted, sworn, urged and now the thread is appearing to turn, in impatience at her inability to do the one thing that would help her. Get out.

desolate if you are still 'reading' us (cos I'm not sure you are listening..) what can any one of us do or say to help you get to the better place, your own 4 walls where you can rebuild you dignity, and your life.

Desolate, it's way past time for you to do as the Nobber has asked, and go quietly.

Please tell us you will go, cos I'll have to sadly back away from this thread otherwise, it's too painful to have invade my own RL thoughts. I feel awful for saying that. I'm so sorry desolate, but please, please do the right thing and leave. For you. It's over, it's been over for a very long time. You ignoring it won't change that, it'll just make the damage you are doing to yourself even longer lasting.

scottishmummy · 08/11/2009 18:35

time to get the fuck out of this toxic situation
he isnt your boyfriend anymore
you shouldnt be hanging on there
things wont improve
he doesnt love you

do keep up your cmht appts - let cpn know your new address
so attend a day centre/recovery centre
dont bounce omto a rebound relationship
have some individual time.no man.just supportive pals

Lesterlassone · 09/11/2009 14:19

I've been following this thread from the beginning. Just noticed that Desolate posted a couple of times Saturday evening on another question here "what does OTK mean?"

Not sure if it's good she is able to comment in a lighthearted way or if it's another indication that something is very wrong .....

2rebecca · 09/11/2009 15:21

She seems to disappear for days on end when people tell her to leave and then reappear with a list of things she and nobber have been to, awful things he's said to her and no real reason as to why she hasn't left yet. Does make me suspect it's a story that desolate gets a bit bored of sometimes and has to think up the next installment.
In the past threads where the poster has behaved in an unbelievable way, or had an unusual stream of coincidental adverse life events have been fictional.
If this isn't then I wonder of Desolate enjoys the sympathy and attention and fears she wouldn't get it if she left him and didn't have him as an excuse as to why she was so unhappy.

gonnabehappy · 09/11/2009 15:59

It does not really matter. I have read threads here and elsewhere which have been frankly incredible (and actually I don't think this one is) and have gained so much from the kind and thoughtful posts on them.

Even the advice on here, which does not fit my situation has been thought provoking.

Desolate, it does not matter hugely if every word is truth or not, what matters is you are miserable enough to be reaching out to an online group. Do you have anyone in RL you can talk to? Anyone who could help you make some changes. from everything you have said you are no longer welcome in your partner's life. That hurts, really hurts and I suspect you will need some help to get out even if everything appears so straightforward in type.

humblemum · 09/11/2009 16:03

Lester I posted last week that desolate had been on another thread and so I was presuming she was ok ish, (but who is to know)but I got moaned at!! hope you dont. p.s. I noticed that OTK thread too!!

Jujubean77 · 09/11/2009 16:42

Look is there a possibility Desolate may have some kind of LD? Please please don't take this the wrong way but it really doesn't sounds like she is of sound mind at all. Which would explain why she isn't answering questions and some of the the behavior.

Desolate if you are for real I think you may be having some kind of breakdown. You need to get proper help fast as everyone else is saying. How long do you think this can go on?

thedollshouse · 09/11/2009 16:53

I have been following this thread but have not posted as I haven't had anything constructive to add.

I agree with the other posters advising you to get out. You really must, your xp is within his rights to call the police and ask that you are removed, surely you don't want the humilation of that? If he really wants you gone he may even physically remove you himself! Go now whilst you still have your dignity. At the moment you are the injured party, you don't want the tables to turn and for friends to start thinking that you are some weird bunny boiler.

NufinkOnTheTellyAgain · 18/11/2009 22:02

Hope you are ok Desolute and have built up the courage that you need to improve your situation

NufinkOnTheTellyAgain · 18/11/2009 22:03

i have namechanged

scaryteacher · 19/11/2009 13:30

AFAIK it is not permitted to cohabit in Forces accommodation - it's either MARRIED quarters, or if the service person in question is a lone parent with parental responsibility they may be given a quarter.

I find it difficult to believe that if you are indeed cohabiting in MOD accommodation you haven't yet been found out.

I also find 'He's been getting behind at work recently so I've spent a few weekends helping in the office' incredible and quite frankly unbelievable, as (a) I presume you don't have the security clearance to be able to access what he is working on and (b) if your partner isn't coping at work it would be noted and dealt with. I am also curious how you get into where he is working. I presume Abbeywood or MOD in London doesn't just hand out passes willy nilly to girlfriends. If he was in Plymouth or Faslane then he would be living in the Mess, so would not have a flat, and the same would go for Portsmouth.

If you are going to use the Navy as his career you need to get the fine detail right, and you haven't. I speak from 23 experience of marriage to a Naval Officer.

Goodadvice1980 · 30/11/2009 16:38

Just wondering if Desolate has any update for mumsnet??? Lots of people gave good advice ...

FleetMummy · 30/11/2009 19:01

This stinks more than rancid fish.

Why have your own flat and live with somebody for nearly four years? Surely you would have had tenants in it or sold it?

I see this as a cry for help and you should listen to it Desolate.

What more do you want?

You will come home one day and find the locks have been changed so be dignified and leave with your head held high.

Move on

ssd · 30/11/2009 19:22

the op's getting a kick out of all this attention girls

she's been given great advice, but she doesn't want advice, she wants attention and sympathy and there there

how do we know her ex has been violent?? he might be an ordinary man at his wits end with her

I swear if one of my boys meet a woman like her I'll do myself in

sorry to not join in the chorus of sympathy op

desolate · 01/12/2009 10:12

I moved back to my own flat.

OP posts:
Jujubean77 · 01/12/2009 10:24

So how are things?

GetOrfMoiLand · 01/12/2009 10:28

I have followed this thread for the few w eeks it has been on here and I have been pretty incredulous.

I utterly hate crying troll, but I agree with Scaryteacher. There is no way that Desolate would have been able to go into work and 'help out' her boyfriend. I have worked in the military in a civilian role (Abbeywood) and there is no way on earth that any friend of a worker would have been able to get over the threshold without security being involved, and certainly not to assist in what are probably documents which are classified to some degree. This does not stack up at all.

HappyWoman · 01/12/2009 11:24

Desolate - hope you are ok - are you sorting yourself out?

Little steps and give yourself credit for that.

Take care

Bigbadmummy · 01/12/2009 13:32

desolate , is that all you have to say?

desolate · 01/12/2009 18:24

I'll explain further when I can, but I have very limited internet access at the moment.

I would just like to say that, as he is an Armed Forces Careers Advisor, he works from a shop unit, which has no security guards and allows him access with a code and keys, but I do understand what is being said about access to normal MOD buildings.

OP posts:
curvychick · 01/12/2009 19:18

Honestly...... i have followed this thread from the beginning and Desolate has been offerd LOADS of tlc, support and advice. I have refrained from posting as i found her "any excuse not to leave" and self pitying a bit much tbh, but many people have taken their time to ask after you and make sure you are ok and all you can be bothered to do is drop a few lines about Neils career by way of explaination......Needless to say, I wont be following this thread any longer....

FabIsVeryLucky · 01/12/2009 19:25

Explain when you can?

Limited access?

I don't think so.

groundhogs · 01/12/2009 22:00

Hmm, I'm inclined to agree with you there Fab...

Rapidly lost confidence in this Thread.

Desolate, time to come clean love, if you are making all this up, at least say you're sorry. An awful lot of people were really worried and concerned about you, and things now are just NOT adding up.

If you are for real, time to step up and show us all that we were not taken for mugs.

Thanks.

thesunshinesbrightly · 02/12/2009 02:42

Yes Desolate come clean, this is not fair on people who have givin you support etc...

Why when people questioned why anyone, with a flat wouldnt rent out for four years? you came back with 'i moved to my flat' and their are lots of things about this thread that dont add up.