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Husband left me on Sunday - please help me

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whereismumhiding · 16/04/2009 01:34

This is long so sorry, but please can someone help me. My husband and I (both 38) have been together for 14 years, married 8, happily I thought as we get on, laugh with each other, we have lots in common and some differences and have had a share of bad arguements like most couples.

We have 3 gorgeous children 6, 4, and a baby of 1. I wrote a thread back on 28 Feb, as I was diagnosed with postnatal depression in Jan 09 after he left me for few days. He came back and he instigated us going to Relate, we went out together and had fun & our lives came back, but we have only done 6 weeks of sessions, when suddenly he announced Easter Sunday that he "cant do this anymore, doesnt want to try any more at saving our relationship, he doesnt love me & wasnt being fully honest in the relate sessions. He told me he had lied for past 2 months when he said to me that his feelings were coming back. He said he doesnt feel our relationship works fundamentally". It's so strange to hear him say this as I genuinely dont think that's really true (although I appreciate it's his views so is valid) but it feels like he is rewriting our lives together.

This is such a body blow to me. I am devastated beyond belief. He has even told children (the next day!!!) that he doesnt love mummy anymore, it was making him sad & that we're divorcing. He has left and is planning to buy a house/flat nearby (what with?!) rather than rent (how final is that?) He's calm about it all, tells me he doesnt hate me and appart from arguing today which he actually rang back and apologised for.

Can anyone give me any advice or support?
Will he change his mind and come back? My head tells me he's gone and I have to deal with that and it wont help to hold out hope but this is so out of charactor and I never imagined he would ever leave me/us. He's cutting me out of his life and just wants the kids (he plans to see them 2x week). What am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to keep going? My friends are rallying around but I am in bits.

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whatdoyouallthink · 18/05/2009 21:07

I am seriously fed up of the fact he has been unable to make a decision. How hard can it have been me and the 10 years and 3 dc we have or the 18/19 year old he is currently chasing. Deep down I am really bored of the same conversations. He knows the kind of person I am and knows I would find it incredibly hard to get over this amount of lying and the timing of it all. It is never the right time but this is over the later stages of my pregnancy and the first few months of dc3 life. When I should have been his priority I wasnt-she was.

I dont think my h was always like this in fact I know he wasnt. He took up a hobby that took him away for hours on end from the family home and started drinking heavy. I would like to smash his head against the wall till the old him came back though!.

I think you explained it well, wimh. On my strong days I feel just like that. But then there are the days when all you remember is the good times and thats when you miss them. I dont think I miss him as a person more the idea of having someone here. When he is nice its very easy to think oh I miss you but I know its not really him as he changes so easily. I think he is just trying to keep his options open by being nice to me the ow said as much to me weeks ago. It just drives me mad when he rings up like he used too and is all 'babe' and 'darling' on the phone-eurgh!

I am seeing my solicitor this week to get my divorce petition drawn up. He still doesnt want a divorce in fact he hasnt even said we are over that is drawn from his actions. I guess I should be thankful to the ow really as I now have a whole new life to look forward to and I know she has a life of looking over her shoulder wondering just what he is upto.

How do things stand with your H wimh? Was it you that had started divorce proceedings too?

thesilverlining · 19/05/2009 11:58

WDYAT - do you know I think we married the same man?! H also hasn't spent any time single - except in breaks from me! Whats different though is at the moment there is definately no OW. I think you seeing a solicitor would be a good plan. He is stringing you and the ow along - maybe if he sees you seeing solicitors he will realise that he has to make a decision and stop this fannying about

WIMH - how frustrating for you! Others are right - he's texting you in a way that suggests he has exactly the same rights as before he left - which is not the case. Somehow you need to gently remind him that actually he has lost the right to text instructions for you about what he wants his children to know about what he is doing - contact with you needs to be on your terms not his. I'm not sure how you do that tbh - he sounds a tough cookie (well arrogant twat actually but I know you loved him once so am loathe to throw that term about too loosely!) but he cannot keep trying to ontrol you and act like he still has the same rights - he doesn't. When he gave up some of his responsibility he also gave up some of his rights

As for me - H and I have spoken again and he would like to try again - he says he can't promise it'll work and he'll move back in and live happily ever after, but he'd like to try dating and getting to know eachother - kind of a new relationship I guess like many of you have mentioned. SParkybabe - thank you for posting - I am full of hurt thats true - but I am not ready to give up on him. I can't.

Its like he's tried to dump me as if I were a girlfriend =- but I am not I'm his wife and my vows are real - I have to give him at least some opportunity to redeem himself. But He's on a time limit - I'm not sure how long is a reasonable length of time for him to realise he can manage to cope with family life.......

SemperEadem · 19/05/2009 12:52

Can I join this thread please?

My husband left me at 8.30 last night and I just don't know what to do.

I have been lurking on these threads the past couple of weeks and it is heartening to see you all 'coming on' a bit further.

I can't eat, feel sick and can't stop crying. There is lots to our story that is far too long to type and I just can't think straight to do so but I think a lot of it was probably my fault but I never thought he would leave us.

We have been married for 3 years and together for 10. We have one ds who is 2.

I honestly don't know what I am going to do

whereismumhiding · 19/05/2009 17:55

Semper hello, sorry to hear your news

Have you anyone who can come over and sit with you.. and help you function? God I remember that first week. You'll cry constantly and ask yourself over and over why he has done this. Why did he leave?
There wont be an answer that is enough for you I'm afraid. Even if you understand his reasons, it's never enough to explain why leave your family and loving wife. Even if you were ill, or made mistakes, or grumpy, well who isnt at some point. You have a young DC, you're tired worn out mum like every other mum there, just getting on with looking after your child. Human beings arent perfect. Men get irritated with their wives, women get irritated with their husbands. Most people stick in there and work at making it better.

Yes, it was me who started process of filing for divorce. Divorce papers came through this morning for me to sign and return to solicitor. Could take 4-6 months to finalise. God I'm not ready for this. Made me gasp when they arrived. Friends tell me I need to go for this and start process, as does solicitor so he can't keep being an arse. Blocked his mobile number to my mobile so it rejects his number whilst he is away in India for work. Kids are with me, so there's nothing I am going to miss that's important. I wonder if it will block all his texts.

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whereismumhiding · 19/05/2009 18:03

Functioning OK this week. Work are pleased as I'm doing difficult cases again (I'm a senior in my team).

I'm getting on. Smiling laughing, everyone thinks I look better and happier. I look as if I'm getting back to my normal self. My head is there, sensible. But my heart is still smashed. I'm this huge well of sadness underneath, grieving but waving.

DCs have asked me to find them a new daddy, a better one. What do i say to that??? I said, it doesnt quite work like that. You have a daddy, I know he doesnt live here anymore but he's still alive. DS said to me, he's not the same though, he's different mummy. DD said Daddy's smelly (true but not quite what she was meaning I think!!) . Dont know what to think about what my DCs are saying . Do you think they are just saying what they think might cheer me up? I dont want to hear from him anymore, as he can have nothing of interest to say to me.

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thesilverlining · 19/05/2009 20:13

semper - sorry you've had to join us - keep with us and we'll all hobble through together

WIMH - you know thats an excellent idea re the mobile. Glad things ok at work - you sound like you have a stressful job so I hope thats giving you focus without too much pressure

H is VERY distant today - this always happens after a positive chat where he says he wants to try and fix this. The next day I get stony silence. He says he is tired and fed up and heading off for an early night. I feel annoyed that he isn't pleased I've agreed to the dating thing. Or am I being arrogant now?

iwillmakeit · 19/05/2009 20:19

Hi semper, i spent the first weeks writing, it was too painful to keep in my head!
When i look back now it helps me see how far ive come on and what an idiot! Fancy thinking it was all my fault!!!!!!!!!!Im bloody perfect like the rest of us here are and so r you im sure.
Chin up if you can, you will amaze yourself at how strong you r over the next few wks, mths...

All that said am racked with the guilts as my best mate is getting married fri, h not invited, and i had avoided mentioning it. Last night he rang as i was herding kids out to a club, stressed! and asked if he could come over fri to put to bed, i said no not convenient, then when pressed told the truth, he sounded hurt now i feel bad! Christ why am i still worrying about his hurt feelings?!

Does make me laugh when some of u write about ur hs, and u'v really written about mine!

SemperEadem · 19/05/2009 20:59

mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/758540-Its-all-my-fault-how-am-I-supposed-to-live

This is the thread - I would explain it all but I just can't get it all out again.

I have managed to eat today - a pot noodle

crap I know, but I just couldn't face anything else so went to the hop and bought ne. First one I have had for years and it was actually nice!

Poor DS has been sat in front of Peppa Pig all day - feel awful about that but feel barely able to function let alone get the paints out etc.

I just don't understand how he could do this to us. We love him, we need him and he is gone.

Sick just isn't the word. I feel lke I have been in a massive boxing match or something.

I have been reading the threads and you all seem to have got stronger over time - am hoping I'm the same in a few weeks. At the moment, I'm walking around in one of his dirty jumpers so I can feel close to him - how sad?

SemperEadem · 19/05/2009 21:07

Bollocks - that was meant to be a link - sorry haven't got a clue!

whatdoyouallthink · 19/05/2009 21:22

I guess they all show traits of being the same they are all being incredibly selfish at the moment. He came round today and said part of him wants to make a go of things with the ow just said to him well go to her then dont sit in my house telling me that. Then he changed it to how he cares about me and will always love me, hates what he is doing to me and can I give him a week. A week for what? He said he will speak to her but just give him a week. He has had 5 months and now wants a flipping week! He said we can do divorce friendly if it comes to it and when he gets letters from solicitors he thinks well if thats what she wants I will give it to her. He reckons he knows he been unfair and must seem to have been keeping me on a string. I dont know where he coming from or going to with all this I really dont.

WIMH, Glad your getting on better at work. Good idea with the mobile blocking his number. Dont know what you could say to your dc, its so hard isnt it. I had dc2 crying for his dad the other night just crying saying 'I just want daddy to live with us again'. I just try to stay as upbeat as I can.

TSL, My H has done that too. After a positive chat goes all down in the dumps and was hard work again. Thats when it feels like 5 steps forward and 10 back. Dont think your being arrogant at all your h should be chuffed to bits that you have agreed to the dating thing.

Semper, so sorry you have had to join in. Keep posting and do get some RL support if you have it around you.

Hope I have got everyone in if I havent I am sorry!

Eve34 · 19/05/2009 22:18

Semper - hang on in there, the first few days and so painful, and then you go up and down Be kind to yourself and don't worry about the next few days of TV watching, it will do no harm. Try and eat, just pick at something you fancy.

Everyone else- how we doing, I think that at some point in the future these men will look back and realsie they messed up. I know my dad does - he left us when I was 5. My mum's second H left his family and has many regrets.

As for me, same shit different day. I really don't know what is going on in his head. He won't talk, and I have not heard from any of his family he was with at the weekend - I guess if there was something for me to know they would of been in touch.

I know he has fallen out of love with me, but with hard work and time it could be made right, for the sake of our son.Then I just think that he can just up and leave then why would I want him back but I do.

I just can't imagine being with anyone else - we were meant to get old together.

on the up side, I have been asked out on a date, but I am not going the thought of it makes me feel sick.

SemperEadem · 20/05/2009 07:18

I just feel bereft.

I love him and want him to come home.

I am trying hard not to contact him but cannot understand why he wants to be so cold.

I text him a couple of times telling him I love him and to please come home, that it doesn't have to be this way. I have accepted my part inour problems and want to fix everything but he just doesn't want to. I was lying n our bed last night, in our bedroom with all of our things and just couldn't believe that he doesn't want us anymore. I thought that through anything we would always have each other.

God, I just don't know what to do. He doesn't want to speak to me because he says it makes a hard situation even harder. So it looks as though I am supposed to just move on. I have suggsted counseling and he just responded by text saying please.

I have been with this man since I was 19, how can he not want to fight for us. DS is playing up probably cos he can sense the sadness. My mam is travelling down from up norh oday as I just can't cope with this having no family & friends in this area, but I don't want to go back there yet as this house is my home though I am going to have to give it up soon as it is a forces house. I think they give you 3 months after a break uup. God, I stand to lose everything, I realy realy do but the thing I want most is him and our ds.

Eve34 · 20/05/2009 08:29

Semper - where about are you? I am on the southcoast. Glad your mumis coming down for a few days. I feel your pain, there is no explaination for why they give up and walk away, a few weeks on and I still don't understand why my h can't come home and try and put things right for the sake of our son?

Have you been to the GP - i went to mine I am all ready on Ant d's so she gave me a very small dose of diazapam, it really helped in those first few days just to get through the grief. Or maybe just someone to talk too?

WIMH - hope you are ok, do keep in touch. Let me know if you can get out again?

Hang on in there girls.

SemperEadem · 20/05/2009 08:59

I am in South East London. I am glad my mam is coming down too. My friend is also driving down after work tonight to stay for a couple of days (5 hour drive) I'm so lucky to have people who want to support me but I can't help feeling its him I want - how bloody ungrateful am I?

We should all arrange a meet up - get pissed & cry on each others shoulder.

Its amazing that people go through this every day and move on - that thought just seems insurmountable right now.

He has been in contact again, saying that he just feels that enough is enough, its killing him but he feels that he is doing the right thing in the long run as it is better for ds to have two happy parents than two at each others throats.

We had an argument the other week because he had been an arse (staying out all night one weekend when out with his mates) then the following weekend saying he would be home at 7 then rolling in at 12 pissed when me and ds were ill. When I was upset, I had said to him that when he behaves like this I wonder why I am putting up with it and that I worry about where I would live and how I would manage financially if I left.

He is now saying that I said myself that I am only here because I had nowhere to go. Thats not what I meant at all. I meant that his behaviour sometimes makes me wonder what I would do if he carried on. But guess what, I stayed and am still staying to try and make it work.

He is turning my words back on me and saying that I don't want us to be together and thats not true. I just wanted him to stop being a twat.

thesilverlining · 20/05/2009 13:54

semper - ditto. I think its their way of making themselves feel better - if they can somehow blame us then they won't feel like such a shit?.....

i'm really confused just now. Hes being very cold sinmce mondays great chat. But I have resisted any backlash texts which is good for me - it means progress. Previously I'd have been hounding him with "whats wrong" "can I help" etc etc

Today I am just leaving him to get on with it - he's just beign grumpy!

So I am going to just stay very calm and let it ride. I hope I can pull it off!

SemperEadem · 20/05/2009 15:28

Crikey TSL - the constant changing of minds thing must be so draining - I think you are being very strong.

My Mam is here and we have just had a row because she told my aunty who has now told my cousin. I got a text from her saying she is thinking of me. I just didn't want anybody to know. I feel its my news to tell when I'm ready to tell it.

Not been too hard on her but it just made it feel more real when I am getting messages from people about it and I just don't want it to be real

whereismumhiding · 20/05/2009 18:57

Semper

Glad to hear you have friend coming down and your Mum. It is your news to tell who you want when you are ready - your mum wouldnt have meant any harm though, she was probably just shocked. Can you ask her to do damage limitation and ask cousin and Aunty not to pass it on to anyone until you are ready? That way you can feel in a bit more control to let it sink in before you start telling people and tell only a few at a time. I had to pace myself. It's like re-experiencing it each time. I couldnt cope with it in the first 2 weeks. I could barely get my words out. I'm so sorry you're here too honey.

I think a great piece of advice I had early on in the thread was someone said ignore everything coming out of H's mouth, as he's just trying to justify it to himself. A MN said to me, imagine it's all crap coming out of his mouth. I drove myself mad in the early days trying to make sense of it, why had he left, what had I done, what could I do to fix it? It didnt matter. It wasnt me or the kids. It was who he is now. People usually work things out together, or seek help and put their cards on the table, compromise.

So keep telling yourself - it's not you, it's him. Of course in every arguement there is 50:50, but the differnce is that if one person is willing to meet in the middle and talk it through, and the other simply walks away or doesnt talk and share what's going on, they've disengaged- it's easier for them to walk away and reinvent. You can change the way you argue, you can be nicer to each other. It's not that difficult to do, if you ar both committed to changing yourselves or your behaviour for the better. We all develop and grow as we get older, it's called maturing. Ask yourself what type of man walks away from his wife and young DC???

It will be about his unhappiness with himself, not being able to work at something and risk his feelings/ego/ lifestyle - and all these things are worth it to him to cause such devastating heartache to you and your DC????? There are real tragedies out there that happen, children /partners that get ill, or die, accidents that happen, jobs lost and families losing their homes. All outside people's control. These H's have created tragedies, unneccessary pain to the very people they claim to love the most, or loved at one time. It's all about them. They are putting some selfish idea about freedom and changing their lives "to better suit them" over and above their DC AND their wives /partners. It is the epitamy of the most pointlessly destructive act to do - entirely self centred and without caring about the hurt they cause to others.

H will give you lots of different reasons, and none of them add up to make sense of such a devastating thing to do. Why do men walk out on their families and wives??? Everyone has arguments. He sounds as if he was behaving selfishly, not like a married man / a dad of young DC. When were you the paid childcare at home rather than his equal partner? You're ill DCs ill, the other parent has a responsibility to come home and HELP. Not stay out and get drunk because they cant be arsed/dont think it's their responsibility. Terrible dad, terrible Husband. My H did a series of similiar things before he left and some terrible behaviour, staying out late, refusing to come home if DC or I were ill, drinking to early hours then being incapable of getting up next day and ruining families weekends, breaking promises - it makes me mad to remember it now.

But it's a long process for them of withdrawing and thinking of themselves, then you get cross as you sense it, and then you're blamed for pulling H up on it. It's a ruse. They are behaving badly and being selfish, and nothing you did or said would have made any difference. Give yourself a break.

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whereismumhiding · 20/05/2009 19:20

Can you tell that I'm in the angry stage of grieving now??

Sorry Semper, I'm angry at your H on your behalf. I wish I could spare you all the devastating confusion and pain you're in the midst of, like we all have just been. I really really feel for you and remember we're all here. Listening. Do read through some of the advice I & other MNs on here got and other MNs gave as well, earlier in the thread. It kept me going when the days were dark. It still keeps me going.

By the way I'm angry at all our Hs for doing this. Not just yours Semper.

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whereismumhiding · 20/05/2009 19:25

Sorry when I said "give yourself a break" at the end of my last post. I meant it in a loving way. Just read that back and realised that it didnt sound right - I meant to say, Be kind to yourself. You need to be kind to yourself and go easy on yourself more than ever now.

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whatdoyouallthink · 20/05/2009 19:28

WIMH - Just wanted to say great post lots of words of wisdom in there.

SemperEadem · 20/05/2009 19:54

wimh - I understood what you meany about the give yourself a break comment so no worries

You are right on so many levels - so very very right.

I know that I was right to pull him up on his behaviour recently, its just that now he has left I am blaming myself thinking, if only I hadn't done that - chilled out a bit more - maybe he wouldn't have left. Sad, I know but its a process I think - you blame yourself, pick at your own actions, analyse every argument and wonder what you could have phrased differently. Mental - enough to drive you insane.

Then hopefully, will come the stage where I go, you know what, bollocks. I was right to have a go because you were being a twat. After twattish behaviour, you would expect him to sort himself out and start being nice. But no, he leaves!

I haven't been too hard on my Mam - she means well and probably just wanted to vent. I have just said that next time, please check with me before you tell people. I was trying to avoid the family knowing because I knew I would get lots of messages and like you, it feels like I go through it again every time I tell somebody.

She has been a great help, putting ds to bed and just handing me a bottle of sauvignon blanc . Only having a glass tho

What do you reckon the chances are I'll be back here in two hours all pissed and maudlin

I am definitely listening, in fact the laptop is red hot after having it switched on and on this page all day. My Mam has just said that she is so pleased I found MN. I wish none of us were going through this - I really really do but at least we do know others are out there feeling the same right now and we can try and draw strength from each other.

iwillmakeit · 20/05/2009 21:52

Hi all, feeling crap tonight. Went out with h 4 pizza, didnt just want to exchange pleasentries like we did last week. So started asking what we were doing, hes booked off our holiday week if thats alright withme! Wants to , if hes going to, move in slowly, just for a few days/nights etc, wants to keep "dates" with me.

Find it all just so depressing, am i that hard to want? to love? Jes we've been 2gether 14 years! Feel like i've been given more hoops to jump through and still might fail. Wanted to take some control of all this but dont know how. So much more to rant about but dont know where to start or stop. How can he want to just chuck our lives away? WIMH what you said about disengaging is so true, but now it feels like he wants it all back but without REengaging, i cant do it.

Sorry can only see the dark side at the mo

Greyclay · 20/05/2009 22:58

iwillmakeit - you are a brave woman to go through what you are going through and still fight for your marriage. Make sure that you outline some of your own terms with regards to the reconciliation. Your H doesn't necessarily get to "test drive" the relationship on his terms alone. Set boundaries with him for yourself where possible, it will help you feel more in control. If he wants to stay over a few nights a week, maybe stipulate that they have to be consecutive evenings or only over the weekend, or whatever you prefer. The point is, it should be what YOU prefer also. Not just what he prefers. Good luck...you have every right to feel frustrated.

whereismumhiding · 20/05/2009 23:19

IWMI No, it shouldnt feel that you are that hard to love or to want, after 14 years, this isnt about you but him wanting the world how he wants it. Remember, you're just dating and you're trying him out now, not just the other way round.

Do try to get back to being you, separate from him. You can still be warm, talk, listen and do all those things to rebuild your relationship and compromise, each take your responsibility for your share in things. But I'd definitely start first by rebuilding good times together and good memories, rather than long strained talks about your difficulties as that will make it all seem negative and too much at a stage when you need to make things stronger.

Will help you feel more in control if you know that you can get on with your life without him? Then, he will sense it and respond to it more positively. That is the bit you can work on. Can you think of any little things you can do in your life to make you feel more independent and better about yourself? New clothes, new friends, flirty with other men, whatever it takes? If any other MNs have any tips, will be welcomed! (I would definitely love to hear some tips!)

Because if you do feel you need to have him back at any cost and it's not right or fixed with equal amount of committment from you both, then what's to stop him doing this again? If he wants to come back only if you are dormat willing to accept him back anyway you can get him (half a man not fully in it) then would he stick around forever anyway? Would you? It's too much power, so you have to take some of that power back more equally and let him see you can manage without him, can see your life without him if it's not right for you either. You'd be saving yourself the long drawn out pain of him dragging it out then leaving you and the DC again.

I hope this isnt bad advice. It's just what my instincts tell me.

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whereismumhiding · 20/05/2009 23:20

Oooh Greyclay, welcome back! That's good advice.

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