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Husband left me on Sunday - please help me

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whereismumhiding · 16/04/2009 01:34

This is long so sorry, but please can someone help me. My husband and I (both 38) have been together for 14 years, married 8, happily I thought as we get on, laugh with each other, we have lots in common and some differences and have had a share of bad arguements like most couples.

We have 3 gorgeous children 6, 4, and a baby of 1. I wrote a thread back on 28 Feb, as I was diagnosed with postnatal depression in Jan 09 after he left me for few days. He came back and he instigated us going to Relate, we went out together and had fun & our lives came back, but we have only done 6 weeks of sessions, when suddenly he announced Easter Sunday that he "cant do this anymore, doesnt want to try any more at saving our relationship, he doesnt love me & wasnt being fully honest in the relate sessions. He told me he had lied for past 2 months when he said to me that his feelings were coming back. He said he doesnt feel our relationship works fundamentally". It's so strange to hear him say this as I genuinely dont think that's really true (although I appreciate it's his views so is valid) but it feels like he is rewriting our lives together.

This is such a body blow to me. I am devastated beyond belief. He has even told children (the next day!!!) that he doesnt love mummy anymore, it was making him sad & that we're divorcing. He has left and is planning to buy a house/flat nearby (what with?!) rather than rent (how final is that?) He's calm about it all, tells me he doesnt hate me and appart from arguing today which he actually rang back and apologised for.

Can anyone give me any advice or support?
Will he change his mind and come back? My head tells me he's gone and I have to deal with that and it wont help to hold out hope but this is so out of charactor and I never imagined he would ever leave me/us. He's cutting me out of his life and just wants the kids (he plans to see them 2x week). What am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to keep going? My friends are rallying around but I am in bits.

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whatdoyouallthink · 05/05/2009 07:36

CT10, I am so sorry that you are having to go through this. Make sure you ring the solicitors today and make that appointment. It will be daunting but will also make you feel better and more in control.

I would be too if I thought my dc had come anywhere near my h's ow. How terrible for him to do that.

To all of you, please keep a diary of the brief details of communication with your h's. Especially the times they get a bit shitty with you or break contact arrangements with the dc.

IWMI, That is really great advice, I know that I can look my dc in the eyes when they are older and tell them with 100% honesty that I tried everything to make things work with my h and never stopped him from seeing them.

CT10, When I first found out I told my h to come and collect all his clothes which he done, left a few bits and pieces behind and when I found out he was still seeing the ow I did throw it all in bin bags and chucked it out the front of the house. Probally the most childish thing I then done was text the ow and tell her to tell him that his stuff was outside and could he collect it. Apparently that really pissed him off!

Well I would say I am avoiding speaking to my h but for that I guess he would have to be ringing me. As it is, after not collecting dc3 Saturday for arranged contact he hasnt so much as rang or text or anything. So for someone who cries to the ow about how he misses the kids nice of him to see how they are.

countingto10 · 05/05/2009 07:39

I think it will be cathartic bagging up his stuff - especially in bin bags, like the rubbish he is.

HappyWoman · 05/05/2009 07:45

if you can, talk to several lawyers - it will be hard but you will feel stronger for it too. Once you start you will be able to stop so dont let that put you off. You will be in control of the situation instead of reacting if he starts the process. You will be at least one step ahead. Also it will hopefully make you feel that you will be ok.

whatdoyouallthink · 05/05/2009 07:45

Oh it most certainly is, I went round the house like a woman possessed doing so! Even bagged up all his birthday, xmas, anniversary and fathers day cards etc that I had kept for him to sit and read and realise what he threw away! Didnt damage anything(except a few trophys of his that I smashed the heads off )

I meant I probally shouldnt have got the ow to let him know his stuff was outside to collect it. But its done now so cant dwell on it. It did make me at the time though to know that it pissed him off that the ow was letting him know!

countingto10 · 05/05/2009 13:04

H is on self-destruct mode, the gambling, debts, other woman - all part of a massive self-destruct. Apparently gambling addicts do have some self destruct mechanism in them.

Waiting for solicitor to 'phone back - bloody mess the whole thing. I have got to start down this route but I think I still love my H (is that sad) but I have to take control.

Feel incredibly strong at the moment - I think I have let him go. I made him pack his stuff from the bedroom and put it in bin bags - it made him think or not as he said he is not thinking at the moment, said he was completely fucked and has been on self destruct for months hence the gambling etc.

God what a bloody awful mess.

HappyWoman · 05/05/2009 13:16

even starting the proceedings does not mean it is the end.
I went to see a solicitor and it was very hard - but it made me feel in control - which is a good thing.
It was the wake up call my h needed and he was back begging for another chance.

We are still together and in many ways better - i still think the huge bills i paid the solictor were worth every penny. I would never be afraid of it in the future.

countingto10 · 05/05/2009 18:06

Had MIL on phoned in tears, totally ashamed of her son and blames herself . Didn't know OW had children and that H had been out with them all.

Introducing DC to OW within 5 weeks is totally unacceptable - I found out. Also trying to find out if entitled to Legal Aid but finances are so complicated I'm not sure of anything - he's an accountant and boy, has he fiddled the books.....

God it's a bloodly awful mess all round.

whatdoyouallthink · 05/05/2009 18:31

CT10 By sounds of it then your solicitor got back to you. Mine still hasnt despite me ringing them 3x! So frustrating. Sounds like your mil is just as shocked that her son could act like this as you are. You will work it all out one bit at a time and then it wont seem as complicated. You have done really well today..keep it up!

My h STILL hasnt even rung to speak to our dc he has never lasted this long before. I found myself wondering if he was ok earlier and then was angry with myself for it. He last spoke to them Friday seems bit strange to me but then again I am also not surprised. I actually feel a lot stronger from not talking to him!

whereismumhiding · 05/05/2009 18:55

hello, sounds like been a busy few days.
Smiling at you CT10 and WDYAT bin bagging up H's stuff!!!!

Good for you.

H has told me I need to put most of his stuff into the loft to store it until "we" sell the house. Sod him. It's going up there now neatly into bin bags but once he has his own place, he's taking the bloody lot of it. Or I will ebay it. I like the thought of H sitting in his little box of a rented house with his junk all around him, the sum of all he has in the world in black plastic bin bags.

Perhaps I do have a little evil streak in me.

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whereismumhiding · 05/05/2009 19:00

I am fuming for you CT10, for him to introduce DC to OW this early is disgusting (AND without asking you!!). That is not in your DC's interests. It's all about him playing "Happy families" but a fake one as OW knows it's not real and he's flighty.

GRRRRRRrrrrrr on your behalf

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whereismumhiding · 05/05/2009 19:25

I am desperately trying to find a babysitter for tonight, so I can go to Relate on my own.

Went to GPs today for repeat prescription anti-depressants (Still got the PND by the way!). My eyes just spilled over with tears all the time the GP was talking with me. He was telling me that he has seen people many times men suddenly swtich off and never come back. He said occasionally some do realise later and come back once they've been on their own for a while, but not to get my hopes up as it doesnt often happen. The GP said it is the damage now that is being caused that is the problem and it may be if H does want to come back I may never be able to get over the damage he did at this time and the loss of trust.

He asked if I would have H back now? I said not without a doctors note that he had gone stark raving mad and was better now (!) and back to the old H not the new stranger H. Part of me is worried as I think H is ill, having mid life crisis and on self destruct right now. I wonder how much he will lose before he realises that. I wonder if he will realise that all of this was unneccessary, to cause all of this terrible heart ache and pain to his DW and DC.

The thing is, although I am calm in some ways, I feel like I am in limbo. Unable to believe that the H I loved and knew is gone and that he really wants to destroy all that we have. I cannot believe that he doesnt love me anymore, I think it is a self defence mechanism, a rubbish one. But why am I hanging on for that? And what if he doesnt even have a sudden realisation? What if I am wrong? H is doing the most hurtful evil thing to me right now.

I know he doesnt deserve my understanding and I wish I could move on and leave him behind without feeling worried that he is unwell and needs me. I cant stop caring or loving who he was. Not who he is now. I wish it was in my nature to be able to switch off like H does, but it's not.

The GP said I am grieving because the relationship is dead, over. He said, even if sometime down the line, there was a chance that things do turn around and we got back together - it would be a new relationship, not the old one as that is past now. I guess that helps me think, right I need to move on regardless.

My GP said the best thing I can do, is work towards acceptance and look after myself and the children and build a new life. He is such a kind GP. I can tell he doesnt think much of H. He keeps asking how old my children are each time and shaking his head about H. I have been at work today, doing OK.

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whereismumhiding · 05/05/2009 19:30

I wish I could move on. Feel better. Switch off.

My heart is broken, my insides hurt and I cant ever see a way that I can be fixed. I cant see how I can ever feel free and happy again. I love the children and would never leave them. But if I didnt have them, I wouldnt want to be here feeling any of this or watching my H do this to me. I wish I could just close my eyes and go to sleep and never wake up. Every morning when I wake up, it hits me like a juggernaut when I remember again.

But the DC need me and H would never look after them and love them the way I do.

Sorry, although it was a calm good day, underneath really it's probably been quite a sad day for me.

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whatdoyouallthink · 05/05/2009 19:42

WIMH I hate that in the mornings the realisation. At times you forget dont you how things now are. Last few days I have found it all ok I think I have reached a turning point. It really does help that h isnt talking to me as that is when I tend to slip back.

I hope you get your babysitter and relate goes ok. Your gp sounds fantastic too by the way. Not surprised he doesnt think too much of your h I dont think many people do when husbands go of and do things like this. All people say to me when they ask after him and I say we are not together is 'but you have just had a baby'followed by lots of head shaking. Do you think they realise when they do this that majority of people will not be impressed? Or when its all men together do they all egg each other on?

WIMH, Dont be sorry you are entitled to be sad even if its been quite a good day.

countingto10 · 05/05/2009 20:05

Yep I'm going through the day feeling strong one minute and in tears the next. Even my cleaner was in tears when I told her the latest (not sure how long h will fund cleaner ).

My next door neighbour bumped into him whilst he was loading binliners into his car. Told him he was really upset about us and told him to go back as he had a lovely family and setup here. Neighbour's wife died a couple of years ago and we are/were close to them. He was in tears when I told him what H has done. Seems like the whole world is in tears for us .

H is definitely on a self destruct path, got to let him go down there - I can't stop, have to wash my hands of him. Even the solicitor today told me I was young and pretty (don't feel at moment and at 42 don't feel that young) and don't deserve what he has done to me. He said this is a new chapter and to think of it as the start of something gone - more tears from me.

I have been in touch with Relate, waiting for an appointment now - on my own at first and then maybe with H as he has agreed so we can communicate better for children.

WIMH, good days and bad days, take care of yourself.

iwillmakeit · 05/05/2009 20:32

Must be something in the air, feel really sad today. Even shed a tear, makes me feel human as havent been able to cry since he decided to leave 7wks ago.

Am going to relate 2moro but might just explode when i get there. Talking to my sis and she commented on how cross she feels that even now Im too scared to confront him in anyway or rock the boat "just in case".

Solicitors was shut, typical!

So to another night of fretting...

iwillmakeit · 05/05/2009 20:36

Meant to say a friend of mine put her hs stuff in binbags, put them out by the bins, poked holes in them so it all got ruined. And told him to collect b4 the binmen did!

So cathartic!!!!!!!!!!!

Spellcheck · 05/05/2009 22:25

Have been lurking on this thread since the beginning and just have to get my (very long, sorry) word in...!

Firstly, can I say to all you ladies out there who've been abandoned by the father of their children - and it's shocking and saddening to see how many of us there are - Thank God for Mumsnet. Please keep posting.

One year ago today I found a text on my H's phone confirming his affair - everything I'd been suspecting for the previous six months. I thought that as I'm a year down the line, you might all be interested to know where I've gone wrong and how it's all panned out. Depressingly, our lives and end of our relationships seem to have all followed the same gloomy path so I guess there's no reason why your next year won't be much different from mine.

We were married reasonably young (24), head over heels in love with each other and already accidentally pregnant with DD1. A year later, DS was on the way and I was struggling with PND. After several years of hard bloody work, I finally accepted my new position as a mother and began to really enjoy our marriage - and along came DD2. H was a completely wonderful kind, patient man and we were the envy of all our friends with our lovely marriage.

And that really is it. Major work stress on his part caused him to act strangely, I became insecure...and as usual (BIG lesson learned here), what I'd worried and begun to obsess about finally came to pass. Looking at some of the posts on MN, it always does.

So...the moment I'd caught him with the text and snatched the phone off him, the first thing he said was "Right, I'll go then". I should have let him go. Stupid cow that I am, I knew then that I wanted to fight for our marriage. Not for a minute thinking in his head it was already over, I didn't get the hint that he was just looking for an excuse to leave. He finished it with the OW. I made him go to counselling, thinking he was having a mid life crisis, and she told him that he had to do what was right for him. We'd already paid for our holiday in August with friends, so we went, but the moment we were in the car driving home, I wanted to talk about why he'd been such a grumpy arse all holiday. He then finally admitted that our marriage was over. What a lovely drive through France THAT was!

We limped through September and October, me clinging on to hope that we could save it - any marriage as good as ours was had to stand a chance...he simply too cowardly to actually take the step he obviously wanted to. No major rows, but not much talking about what was going on, he simply can't. It would have really helped me. We tried counselling but to be honest he didn't even WANT it to work. After the second session I was so devastated I had a good long think and eventually told him that he had to stop living here and find a place on his own. He did this six weeks later at the end of November.

At first I thought "Good riddance!" felt empowered, and was on a bit of a high - all my friends and both sides of the family rallying round "Ooh, what a bastard, and your beautiful kids, and you're so gorgeous! How could he?", and I saw him all the time. I knew I had to be strong for the DC otherwise they would fall apart. He still kissed me and hugged me - still does. I began to think we could even salvage some sort of friendship out of this.

He spent Christmas day with us all, the kids weren't bothered when he left to go back to his flat. Only when they were in bed did I cry and cry over the loneliness of it all. So, I thought I was kind of coping. Getting over it. Got a new job in January which really helped take my mind off it, just slowly picking up the pieces of my life and thinking how brilliant I am because I'm coping! I'm coping! Throughout February...party invites pouring in, friends left right and centre...met a guy who I just didn't have the confidence to sleep with but, hey, he was 10 years younger and gorgeous! But I couldn't face a rebound relationship so the whole thing fizzled out very quickly. I even went to H's sister's wedding and had a bloody brilliant time, all of us. She was so glad I went, and so am I. After all, the DC are still related to them, always will be, and I love all his family dearly.

Then I hit March and it actually dawned on me just what had happened. I hit rock bottom. It took nearly four months from him leaving untill it sank in - he's never, ever coming back. And over Easter a tidal wave of grief such as that I've never experienced washed over me and has left me reeling.

He's seeing someone that I used to work with - an old mate of mine - and he still works with (he used to be my boss). She's older than me with 3 DC, just going through a divorce, and I am so heartbroken. I've had to dig really hard to find this out. He hasn't got the guts to just come out and tell me. She doesn't give a shit about my feelings - and he has compassion fatigue so neither does he. He kind of hinted to his sister this weekend that she was the one he had the affair with...ooh, that hurts so much. They've taken all the kids out together, like the fucking Brady Bunch, and my DC have been acting very strangely ever since. Am I wrong not to want them all to go out together? Is it just me being jealous that makes me think my children deserve time with him alone on their one day a week with him? I know they don't like it, but I don't talk about it to them unless they introduce the subject - I don't want them to feel torn.

I think that I and my DC have always had the faint idea in the back of our heads that he will come back one day.

Anyway, lessons learned:
It's easy to think you're over them straight away, but be prepared for the fact that it will probably hit you properly at some point in the future - possibly when you think you're coping and are ok.

Make sure you know exactly where you are with this - admit to yourself if you secretly want him back and be realistic if he isn't coming back. It will hurt a lot, but the more pain you feel now, and the more you accept things, the less you will feel in a year's time, I promise you.

I am over his affair now - can go to the places they went. Time really does heal. I've dealt with the past and it took me about 6 months. But the future is a different thing altogether, and that's what is the hardest thing to come to terms with. Financially and emotionally.

Don't be all moany with him. They really hate it when you are coping without them, but they hate it more when you're not.

Keep the children out of your feelings about the whole thing. Let him dig his own grave. They will realise in the future what he is.

Keep close to his family - they are related to your DC, and (sounds really awful, this, but I really have reached rock bottom) it's lovely to have the moral high ground - the pleasure of knowing you have behaved beautifully.

That's the end of my self-indulgent ramblings. Just wanted all you lovely ladies to know there will be life on the other side though it can be a struggle to get there. Good luck xx

lisalollipop · 05/05/2009 23:18

Well done you, Spellcheck.

I am finding although I have a billion questions about H and OW, actually I don't want to know because if I can block any thought of them out of my head, it hurts me less. Otherwise imagination can run riot.

As it is, on the radio all the sad songs seem to relate to me, but I keep thinking of them listening to all the happy ones together. There's always things ready to floor you wherever you turn.

WIMH - I just feel like we are twins. I have exactly the same feelings as you describe. H hasn't been in touch since Saturday and it was my birthday yesterday. Did sort of hope for a text from him. But nothing, and so now am starting to worry that he is ok. Mug.

Tomorrow is DSs first birthday. All I can think of is the happiness/anticipation (pain!!) of this time last year.

I just wish it could all be alright. For all of us.

whatdoyouallthink · 06/05/2009 07:06

Just want to second LisaL well done spellcheck.

Lisal, my h also hasnt been in touch since Saturday (when he spoke to me not the dc last spoke to them Friday) really not like him he hasnt gone this long without speaking to them before. Like you I am slightly worried and part of gets annoyed with myself for thinking that way!

Hope your ds has a wonderful first birthday.

poshsinglemum · 06/05/2009 13:28

Please believe me when I say you wioll be free and happy again. When you have done some proper grieving you will come out the other end feeling happy that you are free of him. Grieving is painful but god does it help to heal. Look after yourself and your wonderful dc. He is the looser- not you.

poshsinglemum · 06/05/2009 13:40

I have to agree with what Spellcheck says ''Don't be all moany with him. They really hate it when you are coping without them, but they hate it more when you're not''

Which is why I am reluctant to get involved with another man for a long time. I'm fed up with the way that men treat women(so patronising) and want us to be devastated when they leave but at the same time hate us being needy. Can. not. be . arsed. anymore.to play that game.

Seriously, you will do just fine on your own. Surround yourself wwith friends, family and things that you love.

When you start to recover mabe you can rediscover yourself and indulge yourself in things that you liked. You may even discover a whole new you. It may take time but it will come. Hugs.

countingto10 · 06/05/2009 14:22

Hi everyone - feeling quite low today following the OW revelation on Monday. H been on 'phone again, absolutely fed up with it, he's like a pathetic creature with nothing to say. Emailed him and told him I never wanted to see again ATM and to leave me alone but then I had to contact him via text as someone was chasing for money.

Waiting for solicitor and Relate to 'phone back with appointment dates and times. Nightmare trying to find a solicitor who does legal aid around here (about 2 firms in a town with a pop of 100,000).

Just want to curl up into a ball and lick my wounds atm but got to pick DC up from school/nursery soon - I suppose that's what keeps us going .

Can't eat again - food jamming in my throat, heading to about 6 stone at this rate.

I know it will get better and we have to go through this but by god it really hurts.

whereismumhiding · 06/05/2009 18:21

Thankyou Spellcheck and PSM for your words of wisdom.

I hate it that I am in this position, I would never in my worst nightmare ever ever ever imagined it would happen to me and my DH. But really it didnt happen to "us". H did it to me. On his own, thinking about himself and only himself. I keep telling myself that this is his problem and his choice about his life, and it doesnt matter why he did it, the fact is he did. Damage done.

I find it hard to get past how someone I loved so dearly and cared for with my DC, can have secretly starting thinking only about himself in exclusion from us and the DC. I can hope one day he realises what a complete fool he has been to have thrown it all away. But that doesnt help me now and my head is telling me I need to get over it, stop hoping he will suddenly switch back to who he was, and leave him behind.

LisaL, me too. CT10 we're here with you. I wish you would try to eat a bit, anything, just a little at a time. I'm trying hard to eat something, it does stick in your throat. I have such little time and incentive now to cook a meal each evening. Just for me- what's the point?

But it wont help either of us to to look more and more skinny. I'm too small for the size 10 stuff I bought just before he left (previously having been a size 14 at Xmas) and now into size 8s - some are hanging on me already. It's not a good look. Had cheesy chips today in a pub with a work colleague and am quite mindful that if dont eat, then mood will crash even worse. There are 9 things we need apparently without which will make you more depressed, 3 of which to eat properly, sleeping not too much or too litte and take enough exercise. When I remember then others will post them too.

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whereismumhiding · 06/05/2009 18:38

H being playing games again today. Texted me to say "Am I picking the kids up tonight, as we agreed" and when i texted back "I will talk to you in mediation, as that was not what we agreed", he return texted he "I am confused, are you going back on our agreement". He's trying to make out that I'm witholding the children from him, which is SO not the case. Texted him back that I will talk to him about it in mediation, as he cant keep doing this. That was not our agreement. The children are tired, need their routine and have to come first. So please stop playing games, you saw them Mon and will see them on Sat. Dont make up agreements that werent there.

H's not thinking about the DC at all. He turned up 40 mins late last wed as "got stuck at work", they went to bed nearly an hour late then got up again after he left, and it took me 3 days to get them back to normal bedtime as they were out of synch.

I reported it to H and said it's early days so I was glad we were only doing it alternate weds as we have chance to recover and see if it settles I keep telling him that they need a good night's sleep in school week. He doesnt care about that.

He's trying to bulldoze me into agreeing he has them every wed regardless of the consequences to them. And he wont be able to keep it up. Really wed is the worst day for them as they do after school club Mons-Wed and are usually extra tired on a wed, so he's getting them tired and grumpy and would be better having them when they are awake & not needing an early night. They're only 4, 6, and 1 FFS!!!

DC and I were shattered by end of last week and on thurs morning DD (age 4) got into a fight at school (v out of charactor for her as she's such a gentle soul usually) as teacher said she was over tired and not her usual self. H doesnt realise that we - especially me as their mother doing this on my own - just need to be able to keep going, keep a viable routine and not have to spend all my energy picking up the pieces after he's been in & disturbed everything. He was never here before in the week, he works for a city firm for goodness sake!! Long hours in London. He doesnt live here anymore, so popping in to see them 10 mins before they are due in bed isnt really appropriate anymore.

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countingto10 · 06/05/2009 18:43

Keep crying atm - my lovely 9yr old DS keeps hugging me and I keep apologising for crying in front of him.

I will start eating again soon, living off sweet tea and rich tea biscuits.

Everyone wants to keep talking about it but all talked out IYSWIM. As I said just want to curl up into a ball and lick my wounds.

Seeing solicitor on Monday to see if I am entitled to Legal Aid - maybe not if as H is currently putting money into joint a/c to cover all outgoings - maybe he will have to fund my legal advice too . Need to get advice atm - not sure if I want to take things further atm as everything is too raw and painful.

Size 6 is too big now (I was small to begin with at only 5'1" and size 8) - I am beginning to look scrawny now.

Sorry this is a bad day for me.

WISH - I hope you don't find out your H has done the dirty on you too.

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