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For all mothers of sons here are my handy cut out and keep tips on how to be a great mother in law, every one genuinely gleamed from YOUR threads!

170 replies

Slambang · 30/03/2009 20:30

To avoid the need for any more vitriolic MIL threads where poor misguided mothers of men are clearly going horribly wrong, I thought I would collate all your helpful rules for mother in laws into a single thread. Please feel free to add your own.

Note: These tips are based on my many years of arduous research reading Mumsnet.

Before the birth

  1. You may not tell dil that she looks tired or that her bump is growing. To dil this means you look like a big fat frump and not good enough for my darling ds.
  2. You may not tell dil she looks great. You are clearly not appreciating how tired and heavy she is feeling.
  3. You may NOT TOUCH DIL?s BUMP. EVER.

After the birth

  1. You may not expect to be invited to see the new baby on the day its born. Or the day after. Or the day after that. If you are lucky you may be allowed to pop in briefly (with presents) on about the 4th day when the REAL grandparents have gone.
  2. You may not comment that the baby looks like ds at that age. You are clearly not acknowledging that the baby is perfect, beautiful and just like dil.
  3. You may not bring as presents baby clothes (you clearly disapprove of dil?s baby style - how can she be expected to dress her pfb in that?), nappies (you disapprove of dils plans to use washables), bottles/ steriliser (HOW DARE YOU?).
  4. You may just be allowed to buy an expensive pram but only if this has not been bagsied as a present to be given by the real grandparents.

Growing grandchildren

  1. You may not help out at dil?s house. This is INTERFERING and implies she is not doing a good job.
  2. You may not visit dil?s house and expect to be fed a meal or any change in her pfb?s routine. She can?t just drop everything ? she has a baby, you know.
10. You may not pick up or otherwise hold pfb. This is disturbing and upsetting for all concerned and undermines dil?s parenting skills. 11. You may not buy extravagant gifts for pfb. This spoils pfb and undermines dil?s carefully planned regime of carrot sticks as rewards. 12. You may not buy cheapskate reduced items or pass on manky hand me downs to pfb. You clearly don?t value his/her unique wonderfulness enough. 13. You may not give pfb an affectionate nickname or otherwise abbreviate his/her (six syllabled pompous) given name. You do not have the right. 14. You may not expect to be visited on Mothers Day. You are no longer a REAL mother, you are now a mother in law. This does not count. 15. You may not chastise or in any way show any disapproval of pfb?s atrocious behaviour; whilst you may also not let pfb ?get away with murder? when you are kindly given permission to babysit. 16. Above all even if you forget all the other rules - the one golden rule. You may not pass comment or judgement, have any opinion or experience of any aspect of childcare. It will only end in tears.

please add your own.

OP posts:
Sakura · 01/04/2009 08:32

at this thread!
Its so heart-warming to see that there are some people out there who are utterly innocent and ignorant to the damage that can be done do to a new mother by the undeserved hostility of someone who does not have her best interests at heart.
Carry on

Oh yes, I think I will add my own:

DO NOT come to the labour room uninvited hoping to get there in time to see your DIL "in pain". (Studies show an unwelcome interruption can actually halt labour)

If you do come to the labour room DO NOT grab the baby away from your DIL without asking while her legs are still open and not come back until the midwife calls you to

DO NOT TRIVIALISE a new mother's experience or the fact she may be upset by some of the things you do or say. Remember, you have had your time and this is hers.

ItsGrimUpNorth · 01/04/2009 08:57

It is daft to make attacks on all MILs just like it's daft to make attacks on all DILs.

There are some good sorts of each out there. And difficult sorts of each out there.

This kind of thread just makes it all so simplistic and easy to attack and is actually as bad as the MIL bashing that it's trying to mock.

Please tell me how DIL bashing is the answer?

seeker · 01/04/2009 09:06

The thread was intended to be a lighthearted-but-with-an-element-of-truth one - sad it's got so cross.

I really think though that the default position of most posters is that a MIL is in the wrong until proved otherwise - anybody saying that they are having any difficulty with theirs will always get unconditional sympathy and support, and it's rare for anyone to say, however gently "Are you sure you aren't being unfair/oversensitive/overreacting?" I'm sure there are a lot of very unhappy MILs out there who are only trying to do their best, and haven't been given the benefit of the doubt.

expatinscotland · 01/04/2009 09:09

I wish every PITA DIL nothing but sons as offspring.

I have two daughters and one son.

So far am closest to my eldest, a daughter.

Having a boy just seems . . . rather alien to me at present.

I never had any brothers growing up, either.

expatinscotland · 01/04/2009 09:12

'Remember, you have had your time and this is hers. '

Right up there with 'The wedding is your (the bride's) day.'

I hope you're so willing to just fade into the background when your son's wife or partner has a child.

What a sad attitude.

Isn't his family yours, too, and your child's?

I see my MIL in my elder daughter every day.

And I'm so glad! MIL is a beautiful person. She's so thoughtful and kind, but so strong and proud.

I hope DD1 is like her and not me.

Pruners · 01/04/2009 09:13

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expatinscotland · 01/04/2009 09:15

Oh, DS is such a cuddly creature!

fircone · 01/04/2009 09:29

oh, no... this thread has morphed off mils and is on to "look at lucky me, a mother of girls "

ruty · 01/04/2009 09:37

i adore my ds so much i suspect i may be one of those who fall into the 'no woman is good enough for him' category. I'm going to have to be very careful to avoid being an annoying MIL.

PlumpChocEggyBaps · 01/04/2009 10:17

Well, I'm looking forward to being a MIL. She will be a dream to get along with as she'll be an absolute saint. She'll have to be, to put up with my ds1...

I am trying really, really hard to teach ds1 that wives/mothers are not there to pick up after him, wipe the loo seat after them, be a constant, neverending source of cash etc. And that a good wife is a pearl among women!!

I reckon I'll have it sorted by the time he's 30. That gives me 17 years....

WinkyWinkola · 01/04/2009 10:21

Actually, I'll be quite happy to fade into the background when my DS gets married and has kids. I'll be glad of the rest TBH. And the opportunity to pursue my own selfish interests.

I'm fully intending to teach him that the woman he marries and the children he has should be the most important priorities for him. Otherwise, I'd have failed as a parent.

Obviously, I don't want to be ignored totally mind!

pranma · 01/04/2009 10:52

I love and get on well with my Turkish d-i-l and my 2 step d-i-ls.My own dd has 2 boys and I realise what she will miss out on as her m-i-l said to me on birth of dgs1,'I know you will be number one grandma.'She has 2 sons and I said,'No we will be first equal' but in my heart I knew she was right.By the way in Turkey I was asked to be at hospital when dgd was born and the baby was handed to me by the doctor[to my son's irritation]who asked me if I accepted the child as my family!!I dont know the turkish for ,'do fish swim?'but I fely immensely privileged.

pranma · 01/04/2009 10:55

Felt[is there a way to edit/delete posts on here?

anniemac · 01/04/2009 11:18

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Shalotta · 01/04/2009 11:21

this just shows how pathetic many women get once they have born SOMETHING thinking they have (automatically) achieved something great and are therefore superior to all women who have not (yet) born anything or a long time ago .... this is called DELUSION

OrmIrian · 01/04/2009 11:58

"Remember, you have had your time and this is hers.
"

What does that mean if it doesn't mean 'bugger off and leave us alone'

prettyfly1 · 01/04/2009 11:58

Ahhh and this thread started so well.

Lot of truth in the old saying a son is a son till he takes a wife. How would the mil bashers feel if dh said that about thier mothers. Tsk.

But on another note, my four year old just told me that when he gets a gf he will bring her round so that I can teach her how to cook like me. UNPROMPTED. I am going to be the meanest mother in law ever!!!!!!!!

OrmIrian · 01/04/2009 11:58

And as for having to think of other peoples' feelings all the time? Well of course you do. It's called being an adult.

expatinscotland · 01/04/2009 11:59

Oh, no, Winky, because you need to be available for babysitting if ever needed. Otherwise you're being selfish and don't have interest in your grandchildren.

prettyfly1 · 01/04/2009 12:00

p.s I second the post saying I cant wait till my son gets a wife cause then I can pursue my own selfish interests. ME too. Then she can cook, clean and happily do EVERYTHING her way. HEH HEH HEH HEH. I in the meantime will be a mean old matriach spending my pennies on me so I dont offend dil. ;)

vivala · 01/04/2009 12:31

what happened to this thread? Did people not read the op before they 'added their own' points slagging Mils? How sad I was having a good laugh at it too

HarryB · 01/04/2009 13:13

Let's have 2 threads: a nice fluffy MiL loving one, and a hating one. Only kidding. There are some lovely MiLs out there I expect - mine just isn't one of them. I reckon that the nice MiLs all have a life of their own and are not trying to relive their younger years through their grandchildren.

anniemac · 01/04/2009 14:53

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ummadam · 01/04/2009 15:20

My MIL is great and we live close to her and far away from my own mum. She has a much closer relationship with our DS as a result although our parenting styles are completely different from BOTH our mums.

As far as grandparents go they are equal.

But at the end of the day with a new baby there is a postpartum mum aswell. When I was feeling rough, learning how to breastfeed or even now when the house is a tip and I'm covered in baby food, snot and vomit - my own mum visiting is relaxing - my lovely mil makes me feel inadequate and I makes more work having to entertain her - if DH had been pregnant, given birth, breastfed or if it was him at home with a sick toddler he'd want his mum not mine.

popsypie · 01/04/2009 15:39

I found out last year from a mutual friend that my SIL had been moaning about my mum not taking her kids out, generally being hopeless etc. I felt really upset by it as I know how much my mum loves her DIL (stresses about what to get her for Christmas, fears upsetting her, never interferes etc.) In the end I mentioned it to my bro that SIL should limit moaning about my mum to people who won't tell me about it. Now my mum is retiring and bro and SIL are annoyed that she is not willing to look after any of our kids on a regular basis. She basically wants to live her own life and have some fun now. Sort of feel like MILs can't win. Mine looks after my kids more than my mum but drives me nuts. My mum is non - interfering to the point of - where are you?? And sometimes that drives me nuts too.It is weird when you hear your mum being viewed as a MIL.

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