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For all mothers of sons here are my handy cut out and keep tips on how to be a great mother in law, every one genuinely gleamed from YOUR threads!

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Slambang · 30/03/2009 20:30

To avoid the need for any more vitriolic MIL threads where poor misguided mothers of men are clearly going horribly wrong, I thought I would collate all your helpful rules for mother in laws into a single thread. Please feel free to add your own.

Note: These tips are based on my many years of arduous research reading Mumsnet.

Before the birth

  1. You may not tell dil that she looks tired or that her bump is growing. To dil this means you look like a big fat frump and not good enough for my darling ds.
  2. You may not tell dil she looks great. You are clearly not appreciating how tired and heavy she is feeling.
  3. You may NOT TOUCH DIL?s BUMP. EVER.


After the birth

  1. You may not expect to be invited to see the new baby on the day its born. Or the day after. Or the day after that. If you are lucky you may be allowed to pop in briefly (with presents) on about the 4th day when the REAL grandparents have gone.
  2. You may not comment that the baby looks like ds at that age. You are clearly not acknowledging that the baby is perfect, beautiful and just like dil.
  3. You may not bring as presents baby clothes (you clearly disapprove of dil?s baby style - how can she be expected to dress her pfb in that?), nappies (you disapprove of dils plans to use washables), bottles/ steriliser (HOW DARE YOU?).
  4. You may just be allowed to buy an expensive pram but only if this has not been bagsied as a present to be given by the real grandparents.


Growing grandchildren

  1. You may not help out at dil?s house. This is INTERFERING and implies she is not doing a good job.
  2. You may not visit dil?s house and expect to be fed a meal or any change in her pfb?s routine. She can?t just drop everything ? she has a baby, you know.

10. You may not pick up or otherwise hold pfb. This is disturbing and upsetting for all concerned and undermines dil?s parenting skills.
11. You may not buy extravagant gifts for pfb. This spoils pfb and undermines dil?s carefully planned regime of carrot sticks as rewards.
12. You may not buy cheapskate reduced items or pass on manky hand me downs to pfb. You clearly don?t value his/her unique wonderfulness enough.
13. You may not give pfb an affectionate nickname or otherwise abbreviate his/her (six syllabled pompous) given name. You do not have the right.
14. You may not expect to be visited on Mothers Day. You are no longer a REAL mother, you are now a mother in law. This does not count.
15. You may not chastise or in any way show any disapproval of pfb?s atrocious behaviour; whilst you may also not let pfb ?get away with murder? when you are kindly given permission to babysit.
16. Above all even if you forget all the other rules - the one golden rule. You may not pass comment or judgement, have any opinion or experience of any aspect of childcare. It will only end in tears.

please add your own.
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ItsGrimUpNorth · 02/04/2009 22:39

I think being scared of your future DILs is daft.

Just be normal. Just be respectful. Don't barge in on their family space.

For example, call once a week to chat and catch up.

Remember birthdays and show interest but don't force your advice or foist yourself onto them. Make sure you have your own life. Your DSs are not responsible for keeping you entertained in your old age.

If you have friends and managed to keep them, this must mean that you are not that offensive a person if you follow the basic tenets of respect.

And of course, that works both ways. You may end up with a freak show DIL but it's really unlikely.

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varicoseveined · 02/04/2009 23:43

Stercus and ItsGrimUpNorth - great posts.

Whether MIL or DIL, people are people. Some MILs are right cows as are some DILs. Add FILs and SILs to that list too.

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Elliemama · 03/04/2009 11:22

Maybe if as a society we stopped thinking we all had rights over children and started treating them and their PRIMARY careers with a bit more respect we wouldn't need crappy,sanitimonious bullshitty threads such as this one. Some people have so little support from family (from both sides) that they and their children really suffer at a time when they are all so vulnerable. Having children is a time for family celebration but new families all need a lot of support to build new bonds, and relationships. If DIL's seem slightly unreasonable maybe there are reasons for this.... ie sleep deprivation, hormonal changes, the insecurity of having a new life 100% dependent on them and the general undermining of women from all parts of society, including other women, who should know better. Being a mum is different to being a dad. We no longer respect mothers because we no longer respect women. I appreciate the OP was just having a laugh but this is a very sensitive issue, demanding extended families and/or lack of support is in a large part what contributes to the large percentage of women who get post natal depression.

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WinkyWinkola · 03/04/2009 11:29

Absolutely, Elliemama

Oh but wait, if you're anxious when you've had a baby, it's pfb syndrome and is only to be sneered at.

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/04/2009 22:11

I don't think pfb syndrome is sneered at, so much as laughed with, in recognition, because we've all been there. But if you're anxious, you probably don't see it that way.

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tryingherbest · 04/04/2009 13:51

Ow - nice opening post and very funny but so many of us have difficult relationships with mils that it was bound to end up slagging of mil - again.

Mils who interefer and belittle cause problems across the family, not just for the dil. Mine and my sil are desperately trying to turn ds against me and my family. It's hard to ignore comments like 'oh the english mum thinks she's feeding poor xxx good food does she? Poor, xxxx come to granny and I'll look after you, the english mum knows nothing.' That's not going to go over my head. Instead it will hurt and I'll be pissed off , and I'll remember - always!

What's all this about no. 1 and no. 2 granny. Is it meant to be contest where one of them wins? Don't get this. Sounds awful.

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HarryB · 04/04/2009 14:24

The reason this thread has turned into another miL bashing one, is because at a time when you really need support as a new mother and that support isn't there, and instead replaced with utter bitchiness, it is bloody hard to get over.

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tryingherbest · 04/04/2009 16:51

Someone please explain what is granny no. 1 and no. 2. How does this and why?

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 04/04/2009 17:00

Granny no1 is the mother of the mother, and the only granny that counts. Granny 2 is the mother of the father (ie, MIL) and therefore a screeching harridan who knows absolutely nothing about raising children, and whose only interest is in fucking up the DIL and her child in whatever Machiavellian ways she can manage.

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elvislives · 04/04/2009 17:02

trying, the quote is from the Good Granny Guide. Granny no 1 is mum's mum and Granny no 2 is dad's mum.

The thing is that MIL has been a new mum and a DIL. DIL has not been a MIL and granny. When my MIL came to visit first day out of hospital and sat until 10.30pm could she not (a) see that I was exhausted and (b) remember what is was like?

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HarryB · 04/04/2009 17:21

My Mil is too thick to be Machiavellian - she'd probably think that's a type of biscuit. Nah, she's just a bitch.

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oysterpots · 05/04/2009 15:11

Don't suggest that any pink/traditionally girly items a boy might own could 'turn' him. Seriously.

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IndoorGardener · 05/04/2009 16:23

pmsl@pink, girly stuff. My mum was very when I bought DS1 a toy vacuum (Hoover Junior, exactly the same as mine) when he was a toddler. He's a macho rugby-player now.

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pginthecloset · 05/04/2009 16:34

My mum and my MIL are both nuts.

The best grandma is DH's stepmum

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stuffitllama · 05/04/2009 16:41

I'm with Winky. But you know best I guess -- that means you'll make a MARVELLOUS mil.

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 05/04/2009 16:59

At last, stuffitllama, a DIL who knows her place!

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tryingherbest · 05/04/2009 20:47

Oh so is it that granny no. 1 is meant to be the important one. Erm still don't get it. What's the thing about everyone knowing their place. Is guide a bit of a joke.

My mil is defo no. 1 in her books, no. 1 for everything in fact. And very competitive with my dm. Is this why?

extended families are beyond me. Just don't get it.

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outnumbered2to1 · 08/04/2009 01:36

as the mother of two boys i have already decided i am going to be the worst mother in law in the world. i will visit the hell bestowed upon me by my ex mother in law ten times on the poor deluded creatures who end up with my sons!!!!!

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jellybeans · 09/04/2009 11:03

I have 3 DSs and a really interfering MIL. Not just annoying but abusive at times. Even so, we all 'get on' now although it's not perfect by a long shot. I know how not to be a MIL through having a 'bad one'.

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jellybeans · 09/04/2009 11:14

I think some MILs have boundary issues. Mine told DH she had to go 'on tablets' when he left home (in his 20s). She is not alone, is married to SFIL. She also said She and DH were 'the family' and me and the kids were DHs 'exended family' so she should come first. When I would not abort DD1 she was very cross as she had offered to 'go halves'. She also hated calling before visiting as she 'needn't have to make an appointment to see her own son,'. So basically she treated me, and often DH too, like poo and then expected free access to DC while correcting and putting us down in front of DCs also. We never stopped them seeing DC but they complained constantly that they could not take baby DD abroad on their own and that we didn't call in everytime we went out. They took over our wedding, our baby's funeral they invited people even though I couldn't face them. It's all very civil now but only after she realised she had to live her own life and not DHs. Not all MIL are hard done to through no fault of their own!

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