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For all mothers of sons here are my handy cut out and keep tips on how to be a great mother in law, every one genuinely gleamed from YOUR threads!

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Slambang · 30/03/2009 20:30

To avoid the need for any more vitriolic MIL threads where poor misguided mothers of men are clearly going horribly wrong, I thought I would collate all your helpful rules for mother in laws into a single thread. Please feel free to add your own.

Note: These tips are based on my many years of arduous research reading Mumsnet.

Before the birth

  1. You may not tell dil that she looks tired or that her bump is growing. To dil this means you look like a big fat frump and not good enough for my darling ds.
  2. You may not tell dil she looks great. You are clearly not appreciating how tired and heavy she is feeling.
  3. You may NOT TOUCH DIL?s BUMP. EVER.


After the birth

  1. You may not expect to be invited to see the new baby on the day its born. Or the day after. Or the day after that. If you are lucky you may be allowed to pop in briefly (with presents) on about the 4th day when the REAL grandparents have gone.
  2. You may not comment that the baby looks like ds at that age. You are clearly not acknowledging that the baby is perfect, beautiful and just like dil.
  3. You may not bring as presents baby clothes (you clearly disapprove of dil?s baby style - how can she be expected to dress her pfb in that?), nappies (you disapprove of dils plans to use washables), bottles/ steriliser (HOW DARE YOU?).
  4. You may just be allowed to buy an expensive pram but only if this has not been bagsied as a present to be given by the real grandparents.


Growing grandchildren

  1. You may not help out at dil?s house. This is INTERFERING and implies she is not doing a good job.
  2. You may not visit dil?s house and expect to be fed a meal or any change in her pfb?s routine. She can?t just drop everything ? she has a baby, you know.

10. You may not pick up or otherwise hold pfb. This is disturbing and upsetting for all concerned and undermines dil?s parenting skills.
11. You may not buy extravagant gifts for pfb. This spoils pfb and undermines dil?s carefully planned regime of carrot sticks as rewards.
12. You may not buy cheapskate reduced items or pass on manky hand me downs to pfb. You clearly don?t value his/her unique wonderfulness enough.
13. You may not give pfb an affectionate nickname or otherwise abbreviate his/her (six syllabled pompous) given name. You do not have the right.
14. You may not expect to be visited on Mothers Day. You are no longer a REAL mother, you are now a mother in law. This does not count.
15. You may not chastise or in any way show any disapproval of pfb?s atrocious behaviour; whilst you may also not let pfb ?get away with murder? when you are kindly given permission to babysit.
16. Above all even if you forget all the other rules - the one golden rule. You may not pass comment or judgement, have any opinion or experience of any aspect of childcare. It will only end in tears.

please add your own.
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Shoshe · 31/03/2009 08:54

I only has a DS, who married 3 years ago, AND I LOVE MY DDIL!

She is brilliant, and has become the daughter I havnt got, I now have someone to go shopping with!

They do not have children yet, although DS has a 13 year old daughter that we have brought up a lot of her life (she is back with her Mum at the moment)

I don't think it will change when they do have children to be honest, if watching her with DGD is anything to go by, as she tends to see parenting the same way as I do with her.

Now I know it will be different with her own PFB but I have promised I will not interfere, her reaction???

'Mommmmmmmmmm, you have to, how will i know how to bring up a baby like you have DS!'

As I said I love my DDIL

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nickytwotimes · 31/03/2009 08:56

I love my MIL.

She is a pita at times but on the whole is very supportive and always sees my point of view over dh's any time!

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TheCrackFox · 31/03/2009 09:46

Praying one of my boys is gay. Gay men love their mums.

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ginnny · 31/03/2009 09:57

How depressing that this thread is very true. This is why I wanted girls.
My sons will have to be gay or join the priesthood. There's nothing else for it
My MIL is lovely and even she wound me up when ds1 was a pfb. We get on great now though!

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funnypeculiar · 31/03/2009 10:10

How about also:

  • for special occasions (Christmas, birthdays etc) you must not expect your dil to traipse all the way to your house. It upsets The Baby.
  • for special occasions (Christmas, birthdays etc) you must not descend on your dil. She has enough on without feeding you & tidying the house.
  • for special occasions (Christmas, birthdays etc) you must not organise anything at an external location. It is too expensive/cheap/wrong food/not kid friendly etc etc.


MILs do get an awful press (mine is wonderful and we spend last weekend at her house for her surprise 60th)
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mrsjammi · 31/03/2009 10:19

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OrmIrian · 31/03/2009 10:24

crackfox - that is what I am hoping too. But I am worried I won't be well-groomed and glamorous enough for a gay son. He already cares more about clothes and the colour pink than I do.

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Wigglesworth · 31/03/2009 10:32

My MIL is generally lovely (don't see her that often maybe that has something to do with it?), it's my Mum that is a PITA.

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BEAUTlFUL · 31/03/2009 10:34

Love it! lololol

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ruty · 31/03/2009 10:38

i like my MIL. But i have to admit to being difficult re PFB. I hope we've got over that now. But all in all very good OP. So much MIL bashing on MN.

[your relationship with your dil sounds fab Shoshe!]

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Notquitegrownup · 31/03/2009 10:42

Bookmarking this thread for 25 years time . . . .

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JODIEwantsanewname · 31/03/2009 10:53

Like the thread very much, but it scares the hell out of me, as a mother of 2 boys! I just hope I turn out to be as nice as my MIL, who is fab (better than my own mum!) But as some others have said, I keep 'joking' that it would be nice if one of them was gay. (someone to take me shopping in my middle-old age so I don't go all frumpy!)

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frazzledgirl · 31/03/2009 11:01

Must admit I am not keen on my MIL, but it's not her MIL-ness - if I wasn't related to her I suspect I'd still think the same, IFKWIM.

My mum is lovely, and my brother's girlfriend seems to get on very well with her (both couples go away for weekends together and that sort of thing) so I am watching that relationship with interest and a glimmer of hope...

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JudithChalmers · 31/03/2009 11:02

what a pile of shit. My MIL does washing, cleaning and all sorts here.

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MorrisZapp · 31/03/2009 11:04

Absolutely spot-on thread. I wonder if all the mothers of boys who post on here will be happy to 'butt the hell out' of his life as soon as he meets a partner.

And I always feel sorry for the MILs who are far away from their DS and DGCs. They can't seem to win whatever they do, and it must be very hard to want a relationship with your DGCs but to have to conduct it via a third party.

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ruty · 31/03/2009 11:06

exactly!

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HumphreyCobbler · 31/03/2009 11:06

Well my mil is very difficult and that means she gets treated BETTER than my mother. We all bend over backwards to try and avoid outbursts (she was the first to see grandchildren etc). We would not dare to criticise as the fallout would last for years.

As it happens I have never written an anti-mil thing on here but it has kept me sane thinking I could do at some point...

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Niftyblue · 31/03/2009 11:13

Going to post the rules to MIL

As she just does`nt grasp any off them

Great thread

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Peachy · 31/03/2009 11:20

Well fairly sureds1 isgay- phew! Andds3isasd and unlikely to marry so maybehaving him will keep me nice?

In fairness though, thereare awful MILs out there, its no coincidence that MIL has alienated everyone bar bil (including fil who left a few years back) and I was last to give up, still suggest todh that he visit n mothersdayetceven though I knowthere's no pint, and last timeI persuaded an attempt at reconciliation it went badlyawry as soon as she manufactured an excuse (severe case of martyrsyndrome: refuused to tell dh info of his grandads funeral the renounced dh for not going )


Have ordered dh to tell me if I play evil MIL, and will tell first dil that I am new to thiswith no real role models so we're learnng togetherand feel free totell me if I get itwrong (and I promise only to whinge to dh )

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Lizzylou · 31/03/2009 11:23

Peachy, out of interest, how do you know your DS1 is gay? How old is he? I know it seems a sill question...

Just clutching at straws.....

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Peachy · 31/03/2009 11:30

Lizzy well he's 9 but he told me LOL: I know he may change is mind as he is little (which iswhy I dont see itas definite yet) but I have good reason to assume

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Poledra · 31/03/2009 11:38

Actually, I think this is a really sad thread. I love my MIL dearly, and have had no issues with her in the 15 years DH and I have been together. We live far away from both sets of parents and yes, my parents did see our children first but that's because they were staying with us to take me to hospital (DH can't drive). As soon as my parents left my ILs came. And with DD1 (PFB), I will not forget the day MIL took her away for a walk for 2 hours, then cuddled her on her lap for 2 more so that I could get 4 hours sleep straight through one afternoon. And she cuddled me when I was crying because DD1 had thrown up her entire feed all over the pram and the milk was red because my nipples were bleeding so badly (DH was more bothered about getting the fecking pram clean).

She is lovely (not perfect but then neither am I) and I am lucky to have her.

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deanychip · 31/03/2009 11:41

Dont even try..any thing...ever..because you just cannot hope to win and any way, i need to rip you to shreds (as is the dil legal right) for not trying.

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pagwatch · 31/03/2009 11:47

I love this thread. It is soooo true.

My mother is also the mother of four sons and I have seen each DIL object in different ways to different things she does. And then if their marriages broke up she almost never got to see those children much .

Actually I should confess that we don't see my IL's but that was DHs decision and based on the fact that they did not want anythingto do with DS2 when they found out he had SN.

I have a DS1 who is 15 so am waiting for GFs to start 'marking' him
DS2 has issues that mean he will never have a relationship so he is all mine - I can feck off whoever I like

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LilianGish · 31/03/2009 11:54

"The mother of the father of a child has neither esteem nor value". Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's (sp?) mother made this very point in her book The Good Granny Guide where she talks about the number one granny and the number two granny and how it's important to know your place. My mother actually bought this book for mil! I very much agree with Flibbertyjibbet - my attitude towards and understanding of mil changed the moment ds was born. It's also the reason I wanted to have a girl first - after that it doesn't matter (a point I believe I made to mil (a mother of 2 dss) at the time when she was berating me for wanting to find out the sex).

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