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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

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Right, listen up everybody.

867 replies

RealityIsMyOnlyValentine · 04/02/2009 08:00

I shall say this only once.

Actually, no I won't, I will keep repeating it until the message gets through.

Every person deserves to have a relationship where they are treated with respect, love and equality.

There is never an excuse for verbal, physical or financial abuse.

If you partner treats you like shit, it is their fault. It is not because of something you have done.

You can't change an abusive man by being 'better' or sticking by him where others haven't, or by changing yourself.

Most people have happy relationships, where disagreements happen and are resolved without resorting to shouting, name calling or violence or screwing someone else.

Most people's partners are happy for them to pursue their own friendships and interests, work and education, have access to money, make decisions.

Most people in a relationship stay faithful. They don't have affairs or cyber-sex or obsessively wank over porn day and night.

Don't be fooled into thinking that dysfunctional relationships are the norm. There are many of them on here, but then people don't tend to ask for advice on healthy relationships, so we hear less about them.

Relationships are not supposed to be hard work, that is a big fat myth. Yes, you should work at your relationship but that is not the same thing at all.

Nobody should live their life in fear of angering their partner, or skirting round issues that might upset him. Or put up with cheating and lying for fear of rocking the boat.

Nobody should 'stay together for the children', or because of your marriage vows. If your husband treats you badly, he has broken the vows. Children are much much happier being brought up by parents who live apart than in an atmosphere of fear and loathing.

Just because you've escaped a level 10 bastard, doesn't mean you should settle for the level 8 one that comes along. The only acceptable level of abuse is none.

Just because all your friends are in bad relationships, doesn't mean that you have to be.

I really want to debunk the myth that all men are bastards. They simply aren't. If you feel that all the men you meet are, it's because you are unconsciously sending out vibes to these men. They can spot a target a mile off.

Be on your own. It is much easier than sticking by a tosser. If you have been in more than one abusive relationship, seek some counselling, you may be co-dependant, or you may be modelling relationships on a warped template, perhaps from childhood.

If he abuses you, he is not a good father. Good fathers don't treat the mother of their children with disrespect.

It doesn't matter how much he says sorry and makes it up to you, if he continues to abuse you those apologies are worthless.

Don't be fooled into thinking the abuse isn't 'bad enough to leave'. If you are treated in any way less than cherished, loved and respected, it is bad enough to leave.

There is never a reason to stay with an abusive man. He won't kill himself if you leave him, he won't take your children, and yes, everybody will believe you.

I probably have loads more to say on the subject but I will leave it there for now.

Much love to everybody.

OP posts:
Snorbs · 26/04/2009 22:00

Junglist, I think it's great that you teach your sons that it is unacceptable for them to hit a female. Maybe, though, you also need to stress that a girl hitting them is equally unacceptable and also teach them some strategies for dealing with it when it occurs. It's not only males who are the perpetrators of emotional abuse and violence in relationships.

ninah · 26/04/2009 22:02

most people have happy relationships?
a few

RealityIsMyOnlyDelusion · 28/04/2009 21:10

Bumping again.

I am very glad (and a bit tbh) that people are finding this useful.

gremlindolphin · 28/04/2009 22:58

bump

GumsNRoses · 28/04/2009 23:01

Reality for Prime Minister

DoneWithCrying · 28/04/2009 23:05

Well Done Reality - brilliant thread.

Just in the process of ending 23 yrs of crap and looking forward to my life.

Thanks for this, it's really helped.

junglist1 · 28/04/2009 23:09

Good for you DWC! Onwards and upwards

caramelwaffle · 29/04/2009 01:11

bump bump bump

BillSilverFoxBuchanan · 29/04/2009 01:14

What a fabulous post Reality.

BitOfFun · 29/04/2009 01:39

Pmsl @Gums- but I do endorse the sentiment!

caramelwaffle · 29/04/2009 02:32

bump bump bump

swineoclock · 10/05/2009 08:41

Felt this needed a bump.

swineoclock · 10/05/2009 10:33

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EvenBetaDad · 10/05/2009 11:45

Reality - I read this post when you first posted it and liked it then and I like it now.

Something like this should probably be put somewhere on section of MN and linked from the front page. A sort of MN manifesto really.

Also agree with hunnybun1981 and *Reality later on to say it applies equally to men and women.

Junglist and snorbs our boys also get it drummed into them not to hit girls (or indeed other boys). Sadly, a trend for girls hitting the boys happened last year at our DSs school.

This quite shockingly included girls walking up to boys and without warning and just kicking or punching them in the groin then laughing at them if they cried. Apparently some older girls had told the younger girls that this was how to make boys cry. These are 8 years olds and it is a nice Prep school. Thankfully a female teacher saw a girl doing it and a stop was put to it.

swineoclock · 10/05/2009 15:19

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SemperEadem · 10/05/2009 21:24

Realityismyonlyvalentine - I think I am in love with you a little bit excellent post. Am n a situation where I am thinking about leaving my dh and your post really hit home. Ta!

swineoclock · 11/05/2009 09:48

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RealityIsMyOnlyDelusion · 12/05/2009 19:19

Bump for TDWP.

Podrick · 12/05/2009 19:25

Reality Rocks

PeggyPatch · 22/05/2009 17:27

bump

PeggyPatch · 23/05/2009 18:42

bump

notevenamousie · 23/05/2009 19:05

I only just saw this. Thank you, Reality. He hid my passport the day before my first postnatal job interview. 18 months later, I am brave enough to say this (have been on my own a year now).

PeggyPatch · 06/06/2009 12:12

bump

RealityIsGettingMarried · 21/07/2009 21:17

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thesouthsbelle · 01/08/2009 09:07

Love it!!