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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

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Right, listen up everybody.

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RealityIsMyOnlyValentine · 04/02/2009 08:00

I shall say this only once.

Actually, no I won't, I will keep repeating it until the message gets through.

Every person deserves to have a relationship where they are treated with respect, love and equality.

There is never an excuse for verbal, physical or financial abuse.

If you partner treats you like shit, it is their fault. It is not because of something you have done.

You can't change an abusive man by being 'better' or sticking by him where others haven't, or by changing yourself.

Most people have happy relationships, where disagreements happen and are resolved without resorting to shouting, name calling or violence or screwing someone else.

Most people's partners are happy for them to pursue their own friendships and interests, work and education, have access to money, make decisions.

Most people in a relationship stay faithful. They don't have affairs or cyber-sex or obsessively wank over porn day and night.

Don't be fooled into thinking that dysfunctional relationships are the norm. There are many of them on here, but then people don't tend to ask for advice on healthy relationships, so we hear less about them.

Relationships are not supposed to be hard work, that is a big fat myth. Yes, you should work at your relationship but that is not the same thing at all.

Nobody should live their life in fear of angering their partner, or skirting round issues that might upset him. Or put up with cheating and lying for fear of rocking the boat.

Nobody should 'stay together for the children', or because of your marriage vows. If your husband treats you badly, he has broken the vows. Children are much much happier being brought up by parents who live apart than in an atmosphere of fear and loathing.

Just because you've escaped a level 10 bastard, doesn't mean you should settle for the level 8 one that comes along. The only acceptable level of abuse is none.

Just because all your friends are in bad relationships, doesn't mean that you have to be.

I really want to debunk the myth that all men are bastards. They simply aren't. If you feel that all the men you meet are, it's because you are unconsciously sending out vibes to these men. They can spot a target a mile off.

Be on your own. It is much easier than sticking by a tosser. If you have been in more than one abusive relationship, seek some counselling, you may be co-dependant, or you may be modelling relationships on a warped template, perhaps from childhood.

If he abuses you, he is not a good father. Good fathers don't treat the mother of their children with disrespect.

It doesn't matter how much he says sorry and makes it up to you, if he continues to abuse you those apologies are worthless.

Don't be fooled into thinking the abuse isn't 'bad enough to leave'. If you are treated in any way less than cherished, loved and respected, it is bad enough to leave.

There is never a reason to stay with an abusive man. He won't kill himself if you leave him, he won't take your children, and yes, everybody will believe you.

I probably have loads more to say on the subject but I will leave it there for now.

Much love to everybody.

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Annabelle768 · 09/02/2021 13:28

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Missymoo6 · 18/03/2021 09:07

But we genuinely CANNOT see it! My DH never hit me or was menacing in any way. He never kept me short of money. His control was masked by concern and love and because ‘he missed me’ when I wasn’t there. His weapon of choice was talking - and, boy, could he talk! It is like a relentless barrage of words from the moment he opens his eyes! He follows me around the house to continue the relentless monologue. It is even worse if we have visitors in the house when it is ramped up to an even higher level!
My dad was brought up in an orphanage so he had no experience of family life or how to be a father. He was a lovely man at heart but bewildered. He died while I was still only a teenager. So I don’t feel as if I had a role model of how men behave.
My sister’s husband is very similar to mine as well so maybe there is a pre-disposed link.

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J1982828 · 27/03/2021 08:23

Help...

Been on/off 7 years, hes cheated previously then bought a house without me. We've been living together in his house the past year and in that time had sex 3 times that’s if I’m lucky. I cry my eyes out to him and he doesn't seem to care yet wants a house together!? I love him so much but at breaking point.

He’s told me previously he had a problem, so we went doctors, I went with him. He had blood tests and everything done. The doctor said it’s all okay and normal and prescribed viagra. Still does nothing for me , doesn’t inniate anything with me.

I feel so neglected and hurt. When I bring up why he won’t sleep with me, he shuts me down instantly. I get blunt answers like ‘I dunno do I’ and ‘I’ve got work don’t wanna talk’

Advice...

CatRach · 04/04/2021 22:53

Is this really true? Do others have relationships where you don’t shout and name call in disagreements?

Jacobanddarcy1 · 05/04/2021 17:55

I am new to this but need some advice please. I have tried to post this in the relationships column but was unable to. I have been with husband for 24yrs, he has worked for 13yrs out of the 24yrs on and off. He us verbally, financially and sometimes physically abusive. He has calmed down a lot since September when he lost his job. He is convinced I'm cheating. I have grown to resent him, but sometimes think I'm the problem, maybe I'm just not a nice person and provoking him. I've finally decided to end the marriage a year ago, but he refuses to leave, he is asking for £30.000, then he will leave, but I just don't have the money. Thanks for listening.

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Sandra15 · 12/04/2021 13:24

@J1982828

Help...

Been on/off 7 years, hes cheated previously then bought a house without me. We've been living together in his house the past year and in that time had sex 3 times that’s if I’m lucky. I cry my eyes out to him and he doesn't seem to care yet wants a house together!? I love him so much but at breaking point.

He’s told me previously he had a problem, so we went doctors, I went with him. He had blood tests and everything done. The doctor said it’s all okay and normal and prescribed viagra. Still does nothing for me , doesn’t inniate anything with me.

I feel so neglected and hurt. When I bring up why he won’t sleep with me, he shuts me down instantly. I get blunt answers like ‘I dunno do I’ and ‘I’ve got work don’t wanna talk’

Advice...

Advice? Get out, simples.
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namechanged9999 · 02/05/2021 10:35

@CatRach wondering this too

trackiesandasmokeyeye · 15/05/2021 03:59

@Jacobanddarcy1

I am new to this but need some advice please. I have tried to post this in the relationships column but was unable to. I have been with husband for 24yrs, he has worked for 13yrs out of the 24yrs on and off. He us verbally, financially and sometimes physically abusive. He has calmed down a lot since September when he lost his job. He is convinced I'm cheating. I have grown to resent him, but sometimes think I'm the problem, maybe I'm just not a nice person and provoking him. I've finally decided to end the marriage a year ago, but he refuses to leave, he is asking for £30.000, then he will leave, but I just don't have the money. Thanks for listening.

Speak to a solicitor - ideally at a free clinic for initial advice. You deserve more than that. It's easy to recognise in others what you can't in yourself.

quiteqwerty · 27/05/2021 20:26

All in the relationships board should read this!

I wish I didn't have to find that out the hard way. In a way, I think you know you've found 'the one' when everything isn't such as uphill struggle.

Lana07 · 09/06/2021 13:44

Is there a like button on here? I'd put a 'Like'.

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Pebbledashery · 21/06/2021 19:50

I wish I could believe you. I just stood in a court room with my ex being cross examined by my abusers barrister and constantly accused of lying about what was my pitiful existence when I was with him.. I have to hope a judge believes I was abused because that was my life.

Hadenoughofthisbullshit · 28/06/2021 03:23

Thanks a lot op.

CambsAlways · 11/07/2021 20:57

Great post and so true

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sharp51 · 26/07/2021 13:01

All right

Pantouffle · 03/08/2021 11:12

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