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FAB & GLAM PART 9 - DOES IT GET BETTER NOW!!

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macdoodle · 22/01/2009 01:24

Started new thread guys as needed to post and old one wouldnt let me - sorry if name is bit miserable but thats how am feeling !

The police have just left
It all went tits up tonight - H found out/suspected about NM and lost it completely - was physically abusive and took my phone - best friend called the police!
Has been a hell of a night - long statement - excellent police man - who says should have called them a long time ago - gonna get the domestic violence team to ring me tomorrow - he will be arrested and probably cautioned - he seems really worried it will escalate - has put a marker on the phone for an immediate response, has adviced me to change the locks and go away for a bit if I can, and they will look at putting an alarm in the house
There is still a part of me that feels I am over reacting/is all my fault - even though an experienced police oficer is not happy about the situation!
What a mess my life has turned into

OP posts:
TimeForMe · 17/05/2009 15:25

Ooh he was LL and yes, I am well rid!! It's just a shame it takes longer to get rid of the emotional and mental damage he did. I've been divorced from him for 13 years on the 31st of May so I will have been divorced longer than I was married but, the emotional scars are still there, he did a good job on me. I work very hard to rise above it though

Routine?? Routine?? Ha Ha! Try telling the baby about routine!

Dior, I'm pleased you are starting to think about your future. You have a lot to look forward to

Tanee - hope you are feeling a bit better now

ladylush · 17/05/2009 15:55

Tanee - a thread on mumsnet (active convos) on MP expenses.

Tanee58 · 17/05/2009 16:45

LL, I am STILL waiting for DD to get into a routine - and she's 17 lol!

TFM yes, feeling a bit better and huge thanks. DP seems to be trying to make up for last night - made me coffee this morning and just came in with pasta. He's having a glass of wine with his, though -and, I note, hasn't offered me a glass of that!

Sorry girls, I posted this morning and then MN went down, taking my post with it! Suffice to say DP was an ARSE last night, but he'd had quite a lot to drink and I didn't realise just how much until this morning. He started by making a nasty remark about my empire building (ie everything in this house is about DD and me, he has no involvement). Of course, the fact is that HE CHOOSES not to be involved, but that's not how he perceives it. He was hugely pessimistic again, said he thought I was happy despite his misery, but since I'd told him on Wednesday that I was fed up and miserable too, he thought we should really call it a day. Admits he is deliberately drinking himself to death, won't seek help, too old for therapy, wants to be on his own and die of alcohol as he hates his life, end of story. God, it wears me out just thinking about it, so I hope you'll forgive me if I go eat my pasta now!

TimeForMe · 17/05/2009 17:19

Yes Tanee, you go and eat your pasta, you need the carbs! I've replied to your last email and I think I have it sussed in my last paragraph!!

Tanee58 · 17/05/2009 17:20

LL just had a look at that thread - love the idea of claiming expenses for a mooncup to dredge your moat!!!! Also the idea of parking all MPs who need 2nd homes in London, in the Olympic Village, appeals. It sounds like Sweden has the best idea - why do they need to BUY second homes? Why not just rent them? Anyway - yawn - bored -just relieved that my MP isn't on any of the lists!

Tanee58 · 17/05/2009 17:22

Thanks TFM, off to read my email. Goodness, I've been on this laptop all day !

TimeForMe · 17/05/2009 17:36

I started a post saying exactly that Tanee, about the second homes that is, not the mooncups

My opinion is this, if my DP were to be given a job miles away from home we would be expected to relocate as a family or he would have to rent accommodations so, why do these people expect the taxpayer to pay for them to have a second home? I think they should buy a big hotel in London, or a bed and breakfast and they should all have to stay there while they were working. End of! God, the sooner I am Prime Minister the better!!

Tanee58 · 17/05/2009 17:59

TFM for PM - yeah!!! - only - you wouldn't have enough time for us anymore - so sorry, you won't get my vote !

TimeForMe · 17/05/2009 18:13

What do you mean I won't have enough time for you, you will all be on my cabinet!! All apart from Ladylush cos she's shown herself to be a traitor by not opening that damned envelope!!! I mean, whoever heard of a politician who turned there nose up at an envelope!!

TimeForMe · 17/05/2009 18:13

turned their nose up...

ladylush · 17/05/2009 20:09

Lol TFM - you'd be one of the most sage PMs we've had I reckon. I don't think you'd want me on your cabinet; bit of a loose cannon and yep - totally uncorruptable. I'd be leading the opposition making sure you work

Tanee - psml at mooncups to dredge moats Don't know what you can do about dp. He is on self-destruct If you stay he drags you down with him, if you leave him you feel miserable. Very hard situation for you either way. It seems so unfair when you are putting in so much effort and he is hell bent on destroying it.

ladylush · 17/05/2009 20:11

incorruptible

TimeForMe · 17/05/2009 20:19

I think I would have you as my secretary/PA LL, I know I could trust you not to let on any of our business Actually, you could be the Chancellor, if you guard that battered old briefcase as well as you are guarding that bloody envelope you will be perfect for the job!

Don't you worry about Tanee, I'm making sure she stays afloat and isn't dragged down by her DP Teabags don't sink in hot water, they just get stronger!

ladylush · 17/05/2009 20:28

lol Good point about teabags

Dior · 17/05/2009 20:36

Tanee - how horrible for you to hear that your dp is trying to drink himself to death. At what point will you allow him to do this alone, or will you see it through to the bitter end? It reminds me of that film, 'Leaving Las Vegas' - that was a laugh a minute . Poor you. Sweetheart - do you need me to come and be with you? I know you have dd, but if you want a shoulder to cry on, I will come and stay with you, or you could come here.

Dior · 17/05/2009 21:11

Oh and, h was happy today, because we cleaned the kitchen. I actually quite enjoyed it too because we got rid of loads of out-of-date stuff in the cupboards and managed to move a lot of stuff from the worktops into the new cupboard space. We also cleaned the fridge. It was actually quite nice working together and I felt good that this was making him happy - fucked up or what!

It is like earning his respect by being a cleaning goddess rather than for being slim and gorgeous...

ladylush · 17/05/2009 21:38

Dior - is he a neat freak? That would tie in with his dislike of voluptuous women. Slender = neat and ordered, nothing out of place.

Tanee58 · 18/05/2009 09:24

Dior, glad to hear you had some good shared time with H - even if it was cleaning ! I think that's what my DP lacks - the incentive to do anything shared in this house. We started on DD's room together - then he had an episode and walked out without warning. He never gave me a reason for why he couldn't continue, but I reckon it was something to do with creating something for DD - that was in the early days of our troubles. We managed to complete most of our own bedroom together, and he did a lovely job on the picture rails, but it's not completed as we still have a bookshelf to install and our fourposter to erect - and I have lost the heart to suggest we do them, so they languish in the attic.

Yes, it was very hard to hear him admit to his drinking and desire for oblivion. And his determined refusal to seek any help. I realised the next morning that he'd already had a lot before the conversation started. I suspect he regrets some of what he said - and probably doesn't even remember all he said - because all yesterday he was doing little things to please me, which he hasn't done in a long time - just things like making me coffee and pasta, making salad and dips for dinner, and he was quite sweet again this morning, suggesting that as DD's away for a couple of days and we've both had a rough night (slept badly and both had anxiety dreams)- we should try to have a nice evening together.

The thing is, he does these things when he's sober. He's lovely then. The shite comes out when he's drunk . I try to hold on to the sober DP in my mind and remember that it's the depression talking when he's drunk.

TFM, you are a tower of strength, and you are really getting me through. I don't know what I would have done without you. Either gone to pieces and gotten depressed myself by now, or thrown him out and been miserable anyway. As it is, I feel more positive today - helped by you and the signs of the real DP I've seen which prove that he's still in there somewhere and worth fighting for.

Dior, you are welcome here anytime. The spare room is very cosy, nice big double bed, and DS would be welcome - we could take him to see the dinosaurs or whatever he fancies - or if you leave him with DH, we could just go visit bead shops . Alternatively I would love to visit you - but perhaps that would have to be when DD is also away as she'd not enjoy being left in the house with DP! In the meantime, we should do that lunch with HW.

Oh, and I have to share this with all of you - last night DP asked if I'd get out the dips whilst he watched the cricket. So I opened some taramasalata and left it on the kitchen table while I sorted out the rest. I heard a lapping noise and turned round to find one of the cats - the one DP feels a real rivalry with, she loves me so much and mews for me every morning - on the table and giving the tarama a good licking. I scraped off a bit of it - but then left it for DP to have the first helping . Am I evil or am I EVIL? No signs of ill effects so far !

TimeForMe · 18/05/2009 09:38

Tanee that is brilliant!! NO,it isn't evil, you have to get your own back somehow!

I'm so pleased you are feeling more positive today and thank you for the lovely words. You are most welcome and I am here for you anytime! xx

HappyWoman · 18/05/2009 09:42

Dior

It is good to clear out the kitichen - but it does sound as if you are happier because you know it pleases him than makes you happy?? iyswim.

I would be hopeless with a clean freak - dh thinks he is one until i get him to bring down his washing from the bedroom floor - then he sees what a slob he really is.

Dior · 18/05/2009 10:43

Yes, the shared cleaning makes him happy, so it makes our time easier. It also meant that he was in a good mood, so agreed to go to Pizza Hut for dinner .

LL - Yes, he is a clean/control freak. You have come to my story much later than the others and all my old posts have been deleted, so you probably don't know this! Everything in his life is controllable except me!

Tanee - I don't want to be a burden to you by dumping myself on you - but if you ever need a friend to go out with or spend and evening moaning to, I will come and stay with you. I wasn't inviting myself over as such and I certainly didn't mean with ds!!!

On Saturday, when h and I had the argument/discussion, it was about me feeling unloved basically. Eventually, I tried to move forward by suggesting that, if I spent more time in the evening with him, showing hiim that I do want to be with him, maybe he could be more affectionate. I told him that what I need are big hugs every now and then. So...I have spent the last two evenings watching tv with him - have I had a hug or anything? NO!

Oh, and I tried to book ds in to have his hair cut with lovely barber man, only to hear that he is in hospital having been hit by a car! Two broken legs! Poor guy, and poor me

HappyWoman · 18/05/2009 10:48

oh doir - and now your attentions are turning elsewhere too, the barber.

You really do seem to be giving your marriage your all - and it is still not giving you what you want.

I hate reading your posts - because i know what a wonderful happy person you are and yet in your posts you do sound so down.

A hug sounds so little to expect - are you trying to cuddle up on the sofa with him?

Dior · 18/05/2009 10:53

No HW, I don't try because it feels like I am always the one and I don't want to be rejected. Also, I feel like I need him to WANT to hug me, to prove himself IYKWIM. That is something that he says - that I never come to him, but that is my fear of rejection, and also an element of 'why should I?' which I do realise is not a good way to solve things.

I feel so sad. I ended up talking to a friend this morning and crying . Idiot.

HappyWoman · 18/05/2009 11:00

only an idiot if you hadnt put on your waterproof mascara.

You are anything but silly - if you need to cry then do so - bet your friend was fantastic anyway.

Keep talking - you will find your way in your own time and we are all here for you. Some nearer than others dont forget.

Dior · 18/05/2009 11:00

Oh, and you KNOW I have always fancied my barber man

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