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Following on from all the recent threads about affairs, what percentage of wives....

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brazenhussy · 18/12/2008 23:16

find out that their husbands are having affairs?
How many men have long term affairs and don't get caught?

Am asking this because i am in a long term relationship with a married man who isn't exactly careful about his actions but is confident that his wife has no clue what is going on.

She wouldn't have to be sherlock Holmes to find the evidence if she did suddenly suspect. Is this unusual or do many wives never discover what is staring them in the face?

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crankycrane · 20/12/2008 12:11

How selfish to have an affair?
It is the ultimate betrayal

yuck

some women and men just want there cake and eat it

sod the lies, humiliation, torment and kick in the teeth for the ones on the recieving end

disgusting is the only word for it

dittany · 20/12/2008 12:11

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whatalotofchocolate · 20/12/2008 12:17

I'd say she's turning a blind eye to his faults.

Chances are he will do it to her, if he's not already?

I don't know.

I'm going to eat some chocolate.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 20/12/2008 12:29

gizza piece of that choccy

whatalotofchocolate · 20/12/2008 12:36
elastamum · 20/12/2008 12:47

I Cant believe some of the attitudes here but sadly 'its is the wifes fault' is often an excuse used by straying husbands and OW.

I have had this one thrown at me by exH and Ex FIL. They seem to forget that whilst he was off shagging around I was the one raising the kids, running the house, working in the business. It is my fault for not falling at his feet in sexy underwear when he got home!!! WTF are these people on

PS can I have some chocolate too?

whatalotofchocolate · 20/12/2008 13:09

Sure can

It's an excuse by the other people to make them feel better.

The bottom line is no one makes you do what you don't want, it's your conscience and no one elses.

Sorry to sound harsh. Been on the receivng end. And can I say rather unbitchily that she wasn't that attractive at all. Seriously. It was just because she appealed to him, by agreeing with all his ideas, his thoughts, fluttering her eyelashes at him, listening to his problems.

when you are looking after children, cleaning vomit off yourself, crayon off the walls, changing numerous napppies, rushing here there and everywhere, dealing with family stresses, working, plus your normal time of the month crap, plus trying to be understanding to your other half, accomodate all their needs, sometimes, just somtimes.. you don't want to be going "let me fulfil all your fantasies". Because that involves a) removing hair from areas that take more that a quick shave because you never have time to do it B)looking at yourself in the mirror and sucking in your tummy, thinking, darn those stretch marks and will my tummy EVER look normal, c) putting on more make up e) trying to make your hair resemble less of a bush and more of a sleek sexy style d) finding some sexy underwear.

Now when you are out with children, they are having tantrums in a shop, lieing on the floor, runnning in to old people, screaming because their gloves come off or running away, when, just when, do you get the chance to buy sexy underwear?

And then you've got to get back home, put dinner on, tidy up, although you've already tidied up six times that day, deal with the late afternoon child madness, think about what you've got to do tomorrow etc etc.

So plllllllleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssseeee it would be so easy to say I give this all up and someone else can do it, I'm off to have an affair with some hunk named Julio, who doesn't leave his pants on the floor, doesn't fart in bed, doesn't go out with his mates all the time, asks me how I'm feeling or offers to make dinner. BUT I'd rather not, because I married for better or for worse and obvisouly I'm not talking about people who suffering terribly at the hands of an abusive spouse, or someone who has a spouse with addiction problems - I'm saying there is always someone else out there who you think could make you feel better, who may seem better in some respects but somemtimes peope do get this "grass is greener" complex. Thats when men find women who haven't got vomit on them, or who have flat stomachs and can go out without having to get a babysitter, or who can talk about things apart from the latest nappies seem much more appealing.

But I've spoken with people who've had affairs and they've deeply regretted what they've done and some do realise how lucky they were to have what they had in the first place.

Obviously this doesn't sit with all situations so don't shout at me!

I'm off to eat some bloody big chocolate

whatalotofchocolate · 20/12/2008 13:12

Also, sometimes marriages do end because of the unbearable treatment some people suffer.

I'm talking about the husbands who go off and have an affair because they think they've got such a terrible home life etc. And then they regret what they've done.

Hope that makes sense. Don't want to cause offence to those who have suffered thru no fault of their own

ladylush · 20/12/2008 13:13

In response to the OP, when you trust your h completely you tend not to notice the signs, however obvious they may seem. My mum is like you . She is separated but may as well be divorced. She's had several affairs with married men. It suits her. She doesn't want them to leave their wives because she likes living alone. She tried claiming that she wasn't to blame because she wasn't the one being unfaithful, but obviously I told her otherwise. The woman my h had an affair with also didn't want a committed relationship. Women like you are a real threat because of course a lot of men want no strings sex.

dittany · 20/12/2008 13:40

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whatalotofchocolate · 20/12/2008 13:43

Hence the name Brazen Hussy .....nice

brazenhussy · 20/12/2008 15:18

An update, if anyone is interested...

After taking on board everything that has been said on here over the last two days (most of which I totally agree with by the way) I made the decision to call it a day with the OM. This decision has been made because I really do care about what his wife is feeling not because of anything that has been said about OM - I know him inside out, know he has lied to me occasionally, know that deep down he did love his wife and welcomed her back with open arms (infact he has never denied he loved her) and know that I had to walk away in order for their marriage to stand any chance at all.

I explained all this at length to him in an emotional phone call at lunchtime, feel empty and gutted but also relieved.

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WheresTheAuPair · 20/12/2008 15:34

would you like a medal or a round of applause?

WheresTheAuPair · 20/12/2008 15:35
Hmm
robinia · 20/12/2008 15:35

That is very brave of you bh, and I do hope you come through it stronger.

It wasn't clear from the original post that bh's om did in fact love his wife still and I assumed that he didn't and stayed with her being a typical dithering man.

It doesn't alter the fact that some women can be awful - and no I don't mean things like not taking care of their appearance, not "looking after" their man etc. - I mean complete personality changes after getting married - just being truly awful people who never in a million years would I stay in the same house as .... unless there were children involved.

dittany · 20/12/2008 15:54

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brazenhussy · 20/12/2008 16:07

dittany - just had a text to say he has left work early to go home and tell her about us

I texted back to say that his timing is really bad and I think he should wait and think about it, at least until the end of next week but he is adament. He says I have talked him out of it too many times and he won't be pursuaded this time.

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brazenhussy · 20/12/2008 16:08

I am dreading the phone going... and yes, I know I brought it all on myself.

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littleboyblue · 20/12/2008 16:24

Why is he going to tell his wife if you have ended it? Is he bluffing? Or does he intend to leave her and be with you, because in all honesty, if he was going to do that, he'd have done it already not talk about it. I waited 2 years for my om to leave his wife and he never did.
What makes you think he wouldn't do this to you?

CountessDracula · 20/12/2008 16:35

Well, you reap what you sow don't you

nkf · 20/12/2008 16:54

As to how he gets away with it, he is probably telling a pack of lies on a daily, possibly even hourly basis. And she is suspicious but wants to be 100% sure. Or she knows he's a disgraceful specimen and is consulting a solicitor right now. Or she is turning a blind eye because she's got masses of really important stuff on her plate right. Who knows? You don't. That's for sure. YOu can be sure of one thing - the man is cheating on his wife.

lowenergylightbulb · 20/12/2008 17:15

BH - he sounds like a head fuck TBH.

Any man who is 'cheating' should not come clean to his missus on the weekend before xmas

sparklyxmasfairy · 20/12/2008 17:23

sorry but why did the wife leave him in the first place?
think I missed that not that I am very interested but you know bored housewife and all that

dittany · 20/12/2008 17:34

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honestfriend · 20/12/2008 17:46

I think you are very brave to a) do this, as I know you care about him and b) come back to MN as you have had some stick here.

I do wish that MNs could be less judgemental- no one is perfect and sometimes it helps to be able to stand back and listen without judging.
Thank God for counsellors and psychotherapists who spend their days listening to the falability of us human beings!

I hope life works out for you and you get through this.

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