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FAB & GLAM PART 8 - Onwards and Upwards!

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ginnny · 18/09/2008 12:16

8000 posts - how do we find so much to talk about

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ladylush · 10/01/2009 14:54

Baffy, you probably can feel something. I guess you recognise the sensation 2nd time around. It's a weird but lovely feeling Though later it feels more like you're being assaulted

Hi lilyloo How's it going with you? lol at claiming child benefit for all your soft toys Life is a bit weird for me right now. It's my birthday next saturday. I don't feel like celebrating it but we've decided to have a family day out in London. I'm pregnant again which is a bit of a shock. Didn't get period after ERPC, so tested 6 weeks later and hey presto! BUT, not hopeful at all. It's been a month of indulgence and late nights. Plenty of alcohol (xmas etc.) I feel it doesn't stand a chance. If the others failed when I was taking care, then stands to reason this one won't survive. So dh and I are adopting an expect the worst attitude - anything else a bonus iyswim. I am probably only about 4 weeks so will go for scan in 2 weeks. As I say, not hopeful at all.

TimeForMe · 10/01/2009 15:21

Congratulations LL I will keep everything crossed for you that this baby stays around

Lilyloo · 10/01/2009 19:48

ooh LL i don't think that's the way it works tbh ! I didn't realise i wa pg wth ds until i came back from a boozy week on the Norfolk broads folowed by a boozy week in Greece. Put the tiredness and sickness down to too much beer , late nights and dodgy food i consumed!

Will cross my fingers for you know how much this means to you and dh!!

Just on my way out for my dad b'day to tapas but couldn't get sitter do poor dp missing out!

ginnny · 10/01/2009 21:52

Oh LL - Congratulations and I'm keeping everything crossed for you! Don't worry about the booze - when I found I was pg with ds1 I'd been drinking and smoking loads and was convinced I'd mc but it was all fine.
Baffy - I definitely felt movement about 14 weeks with ds2 and I started showing a lot earlier too.
all this baby talk

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HappyWoman · 11/01/2009 07:31

Hi everyone - sorry not been around - more stressful things that i will tell you all about later.

Baffy - you may be able to feel movement - it usually is earlier with 2nd - also i didnt feel movement with 1st until 26weeks - but i did have anterior placenta, which acts like a cushion.

Lush - everything crossed for you - but as you may know sometimes if hormones are still around in your body you could still test positve for a while - do another one in a couple of weeks and do get a scan booked. And really dont worry about the overdoing it as i think 90% of mothers do. Have a great birthday too - what do you have planned in london?

ladylush · 11/01/2009 11:06

Thanks ladies - but please don't be shocked if it fails, cos I won't be. HW - it's defo a new pregnancy. I've been testing ever since the ERPC and was getting positives 3 weeks after, then got a couple of negatives during the next 2 weeks, followed by a positive this week (6 weeks after procedure). So I could be 3 or 4 weeks. Not sure. I did get ovulation symptoms but wasn't paying much attention to date as I wasn't expecting to conceive. Dh, ds and I live in London but suburbs so we're just going to get a train into London Bridge and wander around the South Bank. Might get a ferry to Greenwich as well if it's not too cold.

Lilyloo - hope your dad enjoyed his bday. Love tapas

Ginnny - thanks for reassurance but having had so many m/c (4) since ds I think my chances are slim esp. after consuming so much alcohol. Christmas work do, Christmas day, socialising with friends, drinking at home.......I've really lived up to my name this Christmas I'd been teetotal for about 10 weeks, so about a week or so after the m/c I thought wtf, I'm not pg so I might as well drink. Oh well, will have to wait and see.

Of course, the last m/cs had nothing to do with alcohol

ladylush · 11/01/2009 11:07

HW - sorry to hear you've been dealing with stressful stuff. Hope you are ok?

ivechangedagain · 11/01/2009 15:18

Hello teabags
Have been around lurking not up to posting much but watching you all xxxx
HW am hoping you are ok if you want to chat you know my email or add me to MSN!
LL oh fingers crossed sooooo tightly for you - dont worry about the drinking partying I was the same with DD2 as was the last thing I expected and she is absolutely fine - if it meant to be then it will be
Baffy - how are you ?? I did FB you back .....good luck on the house, has OW had her baby yet, when are you due, what is H up to, did he sign divorce papers, are you still getting divorced???
Ginny - all sounds good - loved your FB photos of NYE looked like you had a ball
Dior - no idea what went on here tend to stick to one or 2 forums, but dont leave us 8lbs is nothing you have done so well just get back going again you know you can do it - how is H being??
TFM soooo pleased to see you back and sounding so happy and strong
PC have seen her on FB think she seems ok and her DB seems to be slowly improving - if you are lurking PC hope all is well xxxxx
Tanee things sound a little better I do hope they are for you and DD you deserve more from him I believe !
Right if I have forgotten anyone am sooooo sorry !

And as for me well its been a rocky road - have finally filed for divorce, he should get papers next week!
We had a horrendous xmas and NYE - with some not soo good moments and some scary ones - suffice to say he crossed the line and no going back !
I did try to talk to him but he just cannot accept that he did any wrong (any of it from OW to now) and somehow flips it round to blame me for the whole mess - I am feeling very sad as I fought so bloody hard and tried so hard and all he can say is that IIIIIIIIII didnt try hard enough not him
So it is done - solicitor reckins will be done and dusted by June and has actually reccomended agaianst mediation taling all into account !
DD's are fantastic DD2 was 1 on 28 dec and is just a mad happy little thing, and DD1 is her marvellousmature beautiful self - cannot regret a moment as I have them from it!
Have spent some time on the passive aggresive thread and have come to realise that there has been a good deal of emotional and verabl abuse over the years and time to put an end to it now It is finally over !
Oh........ there is a NM on the horizon An old friend who found me on FB - TFM knows cos she sussed me on a name changed thread - he is just absolutely lovely and besotted with me - problem is he lives miles and miles away and works away too but we are meeting up in a week and will just take it very slowly and see what happens - for now it is just lovely to be flattered and talked to by someone who sems to actually give a shit about me

And so thats me am still here, still buggering on, have not forgotten you lot, my very dear very wonderful support network without whom I would never ever have got throught the last 2 years and to this stage eventually , so with much love thank you all
And right then whens that next meet up

macdoodle · 11/01/2009 15:20

ooopppssss
after all that long massive post i forgot to change back - is macdoodle of course

ladylush · 11/01/2009 17:23

McD, glad you are getting attention from a besotted man (even better that it's an old friend) Does H know? Sorry to hear H spoiled your xmas and New Year

Need some technical advice. Trying to date my pregnancy. Had ERPC 25/11/8 and was getting positive tests about 3 weeks afterward to, say, 13/11/8. Was thinking if I conceived that weekend, I'd be 6 weeks today. Guess the minimum would be 3+4. What do you all think? Just wondering when I should go for scan. Would like to go at 6 weeks so that I can take action and try again asap if it's not viable.

Lilyloo · 11/01/2009 20:02

LL are you best taking it 6 wweks from minimum then ? say 2+3 before scan ?? Better than going too early!

McD so pleased you have a new man on the scene who is giving ou some much deserved attention! And that you know that you do deserve more than exh! I am so pleasedyou have found the inner strength to end the abusive cycle he has put you through!
How can dd be 1 seems mins ago you had her. DD1 4 on Tue and dd2 1 on Sun

Tapas lovely thanks LL had ds and dp moaning at me all day cause i stink of garlic! PC doing ok but has a lot on her plate at the min!!!!

Baffy i felt dd1 from about 16wks and dd2 earlier. I think it's cause you know what to look out for! Where are you up to with dh and ow baby ??

HW hope you ok

ladylush · 11/01/2009 20:54

I think maybe I will ask for scan a week Tuesday. If it's too early, I can go back. In the unusual position of not knowing exactly how pregnant I am.

Glad you enjoyed the tapas Lilyloo. My favourite tapas is chorizo in red wine, and patatas bravas oh and gambas

Glad PC's brother is recovering - albeit slowly.

macdoodle · 11/01/2009 21:19

LL probably impossible to date by dates IYSWIM - as am sure you know much before 6 weeks they are unlikely to see a heart beat anyway and if that is going to panic you then I would wait a little longer - am sure you are desperate to know but it is not going to change things is it and may worry you uneccesarily - am so sorry if that sounds harsh it isnt meant to be just sensible ...am so hoping this is the one for you xxxxx

ladylush · 11/01/2009 21:50

I know what you mean McD. I think I want to go earlier rather than later because I will still have an idea if it's viable. Last one was a blighted ovum so not necessarily hoping to see a heart beat. A fetal pole would be good!

ginnny · 12/01/2009 11:50

Wow MacD - that's wonderful news. It takes being with someone normal who actually treats you properly to make you see what crap you've put up with doesn't it.
Long may it last
We did have a blast on NYE, I have honestly never laughed so much in my life - and to think I didn't even want to go, I wanted to stay indoors in my PJ's!!!
LL - I'm hopeless with dates, but fingers are tightly crossed for you.
Hope everyone is Ok today. I'm off work and trying to be a domestic goddess, so far I've hoovered through, tidied the shit pit boy's room and now found I've run out of polish... ah well at least I tried

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Tanee58 · 12/01/2009 15:21

Hi girls, Baffy, that's brilliant news about the house. Hope all goes smoothly. I never want to buy or sell a house again, after all the trauma we went through. Luckily DP seems to have stopped talking about selling up and instead has turned to buying digital recorders and dab tuners (neither of which work, so hey ho, back to the shop they go )

I understand that you do feel the flutterings earlier with 2nd pregnancies - so that is quite normal. I almost wish I could go through that again, but sadly, no (though I don't regret that I shall never enjoy the joys of a mooncup!)

Wily, nice to hear from you. What you say about this thread sums us up perfectly .

All you Ladies of Leisure aka Domestic Goddesses - especially TFM with her Compost Bin of Wonder, I sometimes envy you - I suppose I have the best of both worlds, working 3 days a week, but I never seem to have enough time at home to do all I want. Or even the things I don't (mucked out the oven yesterday, that was fun!)

McD - good luck with NM - especially promising if he's an OF too. Fingers crossed

LL, fingers crossed for you too.

TFM hi .

If I've left anyone out, sorry - have to do some work now. Just dropping in to say things going well now with DP - after the disasters with our new electronic toys, we comforted ourselves last night with brandy alexandras and a delicious duck risotto. This is the first time since we moved in together that DP got through Christmas and New Year without any major depressive blips. Could be that I'm handling him better too, just not rising to any comments (and to be honest, he hasn't made many) criticising the cats or DD. I feel much more positive than I did a couple of months back.

ladylush · 12/01/2009 18:02

I think a 3 day week is perfect tbh. That would be my preference if; a) boss would go for it b)if I could afford it. I admire you for tackling your oven. I get ours done professionally twice a year. It's the only housework thing I pay for and I think it's well worth it

Dior · 12/01/2009 18:35

Hi ladies!

I am having a bit of a serious dip mentally this week. I am hoping it is just PMT, but it has been coming on since Christmas tbh . I am still lurking, but not posting a lot. I still check in on you all every day though x

ginnny · 12/01/2009 23:10

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Tannee - this was our first Christmas / NY with no drunken episodes too. I also wonder if its more to do with my attitude or a real effort on his part. Probably a bit of both, but it seems to be working. Although I have to confess that he is really getting on my nerves at the moment. He's not working and is under my feet 24/7 (I'm almost tempted to send him to the pub so I can get a break .
Dior - sorry you are slipping down again. This crap weather can't help and the horrible anticlimax that january brings.
I have almost finished a bracelet with my beading kit, it looks a bit like a 2 year old has made it but I'm quite proud of it for a first effort

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TimeForMe · 13/01/2009 12:00

Morning Ladies

Not much going on here today, I'm well ahead of myself. I might just have to chill out today

Dior, I wonder if Agnus Cactus would be of any help to you? I started taking it about 6 weeks ago and it has done wonders for my monthly low points, which were occurring more than once a month! I'm at that 'funny age' Hope you start to feel brighter soon anyway.

Hello to everyone else

WilyWombat · 13/01/2009 12:47

TFM we must be a similar age then...I feel like I have almost constant PMT, so perhaps I should try some too.

Ginny I meant to say I like your profile pic on FB.

ginnny · 13/01/2009 12:59

Thanks Wily - I normally hate photos of me but I think that's quite a nice one.
I seem to have constant PMT at the moment too, although I think its because I need to change pill. The one I'm on is making me very cranky!
I might look into herbal remedies too though.

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TimeForMe · 13/01/2009 13:23

DO try it ladies. Hand on heart it has made a really big difference to me. It is a natural hormone regulator. Even my doctor gave me a pat on the back for taking it.

I am 44 WW. I don't feel it though

Dior · 13/01/2009 13:51

Well, I will google it because I get SO low about a week before my period. I feel so worthless and boring. I can't be bothered to ring any of my friends - well it is more like I 'know' they won't want to see me . In reality, I'm sure that is not the case but it is hard to fight the feeling.

TimeForMe · 13/01/2009 14:28

When you are feeling so low though Dior, seeing your friends would be the best thing you could do. And if they are indeed good friends they would be more than pleased to see you at a time when you need a little help.

Definately give the Agnus Cactus a go, give it time to work though. I started to feel a slight difference after about 10 days of taking it but now, after 6 weeks, I feel brilliant! I actually got through a period without despising DP It had got to the stage where, at that time of the month I really could not stand the sight of him, I kid you not! Poor bloke, he only had to breathe to be in the wrong. I sailed through the last one though, loving him to bits!

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