FAB & GLAM PART 8 - Onwards and Upwards!

[ginnny]

8000 posts - how do we find so much to talk about

That is SUCH good news about Nick. What a relief. Sending positive vibes your way PC, really hope he makes a good recovery in time.

Ginnny, glad to hear you & DP are still on course. I do wish mine would reduce the alcohol a bit. I'm sure it contributes to his low feelings and he's always tired in the mornings - no wonder with all that coursing through his system . I think he's talked about things with one of his friends at least. Last week he asked me what happened about the Relate appointments and I said I'd cancelled as they didn't seem to be going anywhere. He said "it's probably as [friend] said - sometimes their 'games' and 'exercises' don't work if you're too intelligent" (basically means he thought they were stupid and pointless and he couldn't be arsed). I wasn't in a mood to discuss it, so I just said yes and carried on with what I was doing. But I wonder what his friend's opinion was or how much he told her. She's a highly intelligent woman and I like her but it was the day after he had dinner with her that he kicked off big time - so whatever advice she may have given him didn't help!

Sorry HW (and you too Dior). I waa having a sneaky 5 mins on MN at work so I rushed my post in case I got caught .
Tannee - friends are not always the best advisors although they mean well. You really are doing the right thing by not reacting to him. I try to be more like that these days and it does pay dividends. Dp still does go for a drink every now and then but he seems to be able to stop at one or two now, unlike before.
Sorry you are feeling so rubbish HW. I have to admit I feel a bit that way at the moment regarding babies. I know it would be crazy for me to have another and I definitely don't want to go back to all the sleepless nights and nappies again, I am more than happy with the two I've got, its just that I keep feeling a bit panicky that time is running out. I know what you mean about the choice being taken away.
As for Christmas - don't get me started. I just want it to go away. The boys are desperate for a Wii Fit and I can't get one for love nor money. I'm so fed up with doing this every year, searching high and low for something will be ten a penny in the shops in january.
Bah Humbug!!!!!

Hello all, great news about Nick. Hope he continues to make progress in his recovery.

Like the festive name lilyloo

Went to see an endocrinologist today. Asked whether he had any idea why I've had so many m/c. He basically said I'm past it! I mean, not in those words, but still He said it at least 3 times. I pointed out that I had 3 m/c when I was under 35 (am 37 next month). He then said twenties best for successful outcome. So very encouraging! I took it with a pinch of salt. Yes of course some of my eggs will be duff - but all of them, no I think not. I know plenty of women who have had babies in their early 40's not to mention mid to late 30's.

Hope all going well with you Baffy. When is your nuchal scan?

HW - I think it is probably normal to feel broody even if you are sure you have completed your family. Maybe the broodiness also has something to do with you wondering if there is more to life?

Hi all

Just checking in really quickly to see if anymore news on PC

I'm off work at the moment, have been in hospital, really heavy bleed on Sunday
Went in to walk-in-centre, they did some tests and took lots of blood, following which I fainted and then it appears I had a fit.

My sister was with me and has seen me faint before, but said that as I went into the fit (and fell off the very high trolley in A&E!) she just couldn't possibly hold me or stop my fall.

I'm bruised all over (or so it feels!), worst on my chin and head where I landed. And a bit shaken up and scared.
Off to the early pregnancy unit in a minute for a scan to see how the lo is

Will let you know how I am as soon as I can x

Baffy hope everything ok !!

Baffy you poor thing!
Hope everything is OK with your lo.
Take care of yourself
(((hug)))

Good news about your brother PC

Good luck today Baffy - fingers crossed for you.

CNC - Congrats on the baby

Tannee - congrats on your new method for dealing with your man - although I naturally want to hash out all little niggles I do find too sometimes it just makes more sense to take a deep breath and let them get on with it!

HW - you can be "pre-menopausal" for 10?years I vaguely read up on it when I was trying to find out why I felt like I had PMT and had lost the plot so much of the time these days. Im possibly just disorganised, tired and grumpy but who knows!

Ginny have you tried the sites that track stock online for the WII? WE found ours...HERE ....OR TRY HERE Xmas is the worst time to buy it though isnt it.

Hi to everyone else...wont get into names or I will forget/upset someone!

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God Baffy, hope you are ok!! That must have been really scary for you - and your sister!

I bled a bit with DD, and took a week off work and stayed on the sofa (wasn't taking any chances as I'd had a M/C the year before). Mind you, I didn't have a lively DS to run around after. Take plenty of rest and don't rush back to work until you're quite fit.

LadyLush, at you being 'past it' at 36. Yes, the 20s are ideal, but then, they say, traditionally, that the healthiest babies are born to women in their late teens. However, modern gyno should be able to cope with all us 'elderly primagravidas' (I was 34 when DD came along)

HW, hope you are feeling better? And Dior too?

Hi Wily, nice to hear from you. Yes, ignoring little niggles certainly can help. I'm finding it easier with each day. DP came home yesterday absolutely FREEZING because he'd gone to rehearsal in a light cotton jacket despite knowing he'd have a long journey with several long waits for buses. I made a big fuss of him, wrapped him up like a great fat slug in my own special celtic design patchwork quilt which I use when anyone's sick (colour therapy) and he actually asked me to cuddle in there with him to impart some body warmth - it was quite cute. And he actually only had 3/4 of a bottle of wine with dinner (I had the other 1/4 . If I can keep up the BEING NICE initiative, we may be making real progress.

WW - i wondered if i am pre-menopausal but the GP just sort of dismissed it and said if i was having pmt i cannot be menopausal. Thing is i dont even know if it is pmt as i have never been a sufferer before (only when i needed the excuse to be a stroppy bitch.
Also wanted to put me on AD - i really do not feel depressed and i dont really want to take them as i felt very flat when i was on them.
I have tried evening primrose before without much sucess - any other ideas anyone.
Dior we must get together soon then to wallow together.

Baffy hope all is well - do let us know.

St Johns Wort? Actually, I think what we all need is some sunshine! I felt much better today with it streaming in through the windows at work - though it lit up a lovely line of cobweb running from my computer screen to the ceiling...

OMG Baffy Hope you are ok. Have everything crossed for you and the lo X Let us know how you are as soon as you can (obviously you are allowed to rest and recover first!)

HW - it really pisses me off that G.Ps are so keen to px ADs. You are sensible to try and tackle it in other ways. I don't know much about alternative therapies though some people do swear by St Johns Wort. Is it worse in the winter? Are you having a life outside of the kids/dh? Maybe you could do with either 1)taking up a hobby or 2)going out with friends. I think there is probably a lot more to you than your day to day life lets you express/fulfil. Not that I know much, practically senile at 36

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Actually Dior - i really dont think i could meet before then either - everything is so busy at the moment anyway.

Lush - Trouble is i really like this GP and i want to do the right thing and trust him. He has said there is some evidence for low dose prozac taken for 2 weeks of the month - i am struggling to find that evidence though. I dont have a problem if i need them but i would like to know for sure if it is hormonal first - i did ask for a blood test but he just said that it was difficult to know what were normal levels.

Of corse i am hoping it is thyroid so i can loose lots of weight - but i am just wishful thinking.

I have tried st johns in the past and had a few problems but i may give them another go - as with all these things it could have been due to other things.

I actually feel fine again now too.

I do have other hobbies and interests but i think i do tend to let them go when times are more stressful. Gardening is a good one but nothing much to do at the moment - except looking at catalougues and wishing for the summer.

But HW of course hobbies/interests are most helpful when you are feeling stressed! But ikwym, same thing happens with me. Not bashing your G.P really - I have a thing about ADs Plus don't really want to offend MacD Have they tested your thyroid? Sorry if you said - bit dim at the mo. I didn't lose loads of weight when mine was diagnosed as underactive but I certainly do feel a lot better and more with it. The loss of intellectual functioning was the worst symptom imo.

no blood tests have been done - and that is really what i would like so i can have a baseline for the future. Even though i am medical i am not a good patient and go along with what the GP says.. I may go for one of these private test everything until they do find something that needs treating with lots of cash.

lol - actually you are a good patient. I am not a good patient as I question everything! I also discharge myself from hospital at the earliest opportunity! Control freak Good nurse, terrible patient

Dior & HW, would love to meet up whenever you both feel up to it. January is such a horrible month, it might be the perfect time for some MN therapy and I had such a great time with you, Dior, that I would love to do it again - and would like the chance of more of a natter with you, HW.

And maybe we should think about another big Fab & Glam meetup like we had for my birthday? Hopefully on a warmer day!

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lush - i too would discharge myself from hospital - thankfully only have very brief stays - in fact had 2 babies at home just to avoid the places and never had a dr present at any of the births.

Tanee - are you sure you want to natter to me - ask Dior you will never get away - we could spend the whole of january in 'talking' therapy.

Any news on Baffy??

Hope Baffy doesnt mind me saying but I know you lot are worried....had text yesterday eve - her and LO are ok thank goodness (good strong heartbeat ) but understandably stressed ...am sure she will be on to update us when she feels up to it!

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just really quick one, thanks so much macd, sorry couldn't get back on yesterday I wasn't too well at all. as macd says, lo was ok and I could see the heartbeat really clearly.
I just slept and cried for the rest of the day. Relief I think.

I'm doing ok. But am going to take the warning and slow down!

H called this morning to say he'd booked for us to go and view a house on Saturday! WTF?! After everything he thinks he can just play the knight in shining armour and come and 'do the right thing'.. No 'I love you', I want to be with you, etc etc. Just, I've booked for us to see a house!

No thanks! I'd rather be alone. And happy. But has left me quite and

Thanks for all the support everyone. Sorry for worrying you xx

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What a relief Baffy - so glad you and baby are OK. Do take care of yourself now.
Your H is beyond belief! Does he think he's moving in with you when you find a house?
January meet up would be great!