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FAB & GLAM PART 8 - Onwards and Upwards!

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ginnny · 18/09/2008 12:16

8000 posts - how do we find so much to talk about

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WilyWombat · 18/11/2008 12:55

PC - sending positive vibes your way for Nick he sounds great. Its just the waiting though with brain injuries isnt it.

Tannee sorry to hear things arent going well - I second what Baffy says, you can love him tons but unless he is willing to put the work into the relationship you will find yourself in the same place again 6, 12, 18 months down the road. It is the easiest thing in the world to make someone unhappy by your behaviour but far harder to make them happy if they are low and there isnt an obvious cause - it is really only something they can do for themselves.

Baffy good to hear you sounding a bit stronger.

Im waving to everyone else "hi" i'm still limiting my MN use

WilyWombat · 18/11/2008 12:56

See I post on here then worry I have inadvertently used someones "real" name and have to come back to check

ginnny · 18/11/2008 13:02

LOL - I have that moment of fear too sometimes just after I've hit the 'Post Message' button. Especially when I've come straight from FB to here.
Glad Nick had a good night PC. Still praying for you all that he comes through this. He sounds lovely.

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Baffy · 18/11/2008 13:10

Thanks WW

The tiredness and sickness has kicked in lots now and after ds waking up twice in the night (which he never does!) I'm in a mild panic about how I'm going to do this on my own! I need my sleep! Seriously, ds was the incredible sleeping baby. H was always on hand to help through the night, and I still found it living hell until he slept through at 12 weeks!

I just know it's my turn for one of those crying babies that never ever sleeps! Although I know it will be worth it.

But I do feel slightly stronger. One step at a time and all that...

PC I'm glad things are stable. Still thinking of you xx

Kewcumber · 18/11/2008 14:32

latest update from Paddle

They have spoken to neurosurgeon who did not pull any punches - Nick is still highly critical and they do not know if he will live. The operation removed his whole forehead.

If he survives then they are optimistic that he will have a reasonable prospect of recovery but would not at this stage say they were optimistic about his survival.

So jury is still out - waiting to hear if they are still going to withdraw sedation today as planned.

Tanee58 · 18/11/2008 16:20

Thanks Kew, we'll all keep hoping and praying. Something of that magnitude will take its own course and time. I can't imagine what agony PC and his children must be going through .

My problems seem totally immaterial now. Suffice to say I tried the distancing strategy last night, and it paid off. No more talk of selling up, a pleasant evening spent in front of the box with DP gradually relaxing as he realised I wasn't going to raise any awkward issues. DP slept in our bed again and not on the sofa as he's said he would the night before, and we are tentatively getting back to 'normal' - whatever that is or ever will be. I have had some brilliant advice from Someone we all Know, which has shown me that DP is not being an arse for the sake of it - it is all a part of his disease. If he won't seek help for it, I must learn to ride it - and last night, I think I started my first lesson well. I've talked to DD too, so she understands that he doesn't really hate her, he's just using her as a focus for his own inner pain and confusion.

I feel so much more empowered now, think I can face things better now and love DP for the person he is, without indulging his behaviour or encouraging it by rising to it. Thanks to all for your support.

But heck, what we all really want, is for PC's bro to pull through! Big hugs to her.

Kewcumber · 18/11/2008 17:25

they are reducing sedation today so may have a clearer idea tomorrow of the outcome.

Baffy · 18/11/2008 19:29

Thanks for letting us know Kew xx

Tanee, when you say "If he won't seek help for it, I must learn to ride it" - just make sure that you are learning to ride it because you want to, and because he makes you happy and completes the life you wish to live. Yes he is unwell, but IMO that is not to be used as an 'excuse' for treating people with no respect. I fear that he has made you and dd very unhappy lately, and the only sacrifices being made seem to be coming from you and dd. I would feel much better about it all if (sorry, when!) you start to see the signs that he is trying too. Whatever tiny gestures that may be. You will know it when it's happening. Please do stay strong in the meantime.

I've lived very close to this ilness for many years and there really is a fine line between the illness controlling someone's actions, and someone justifying their awful behaviour by always blaming it on the 'illness'.
I may be unfair there. I'm only talking from personal experience and that may not apply to him. I just really want you and dd to be happy. You really do deserve it xx

Lilyloo · 18/11/2008 19:36

thanks Kew am praying for a positive outcome for Nick it must be hell for all of them at the minute.

Dior · 18/11/2008 20:06

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ladylush · 18/11/2008 20:14

PC just saw this. I have everything crossed for you. He sounds like an amazing man and for his sake, your family's and his kids I am praying he pulls through xx Like Baffy said, try to take care of yourself and keep your strength up.

Kewcumber · 18/11/2008 20:50

"I can't imagine what agony PC and his children must be going through" and just to wave a flag for Paddle's poor mum too who watching her DS go this this at the same time as supporting her grandchildren.

HappyWoman · 19/11/2008 06:47

Hi
Look what i miss if i stay off for one day.
Hugs to PC and family and thinking about you lots.
Actually have own family crisis - dh mum (my mil) has been taken back into hospital - she had cancer surgery a couple of months back but has not really revovered. She is miles away so we are trying to get up to see her. But her controlling h has had a huge row with h and told him not to bother coming at all. Bloody family feuds.
So probably wont be around for a while either - sorry.

Kewcumber · 19/11/2008 09:33

No change in Nicks condition. Meds stopped yesterday at 3pm, Paddle off to hospital shortly.

Tanee58 · 19/11/2008 11:40

Kew, Big hug of support for PC's mum, too. Especially as you said she went through so much with losing PC's father so young too.

HW - so sorry to hear about DH's mother. This is turning into a dreadful winter .

Baffy, he really does make me happy most of the time. But I do know what you mean - I do feel a bit like I am treading on eggshells.

I had a talk with DD yesterday, trying to explain his condition, and I do agree it's an unfair position for her - after all, she never asked to have him invade her life. I'm working on a solution. Just taking it day by day whilst I think things through on how to deal with it. When he's more receptive, I do think I need to talk to him about his attitude to her - it's her house too, and she should not feel that she has to keep out of his way all the time.

Lilyloo · 19/11/2008 13:11

Hopefully no change is good news if meds stopped!
Thanks PC and Ginny for my mes

ginnny · 19/11/2008 16:34

Hope you are having a good birthday Lilyloo!
Tannee, agree with everything Baffy said. Your dd is very understanding and grown up isn't she. This may be your last few years of having her living with you before she goes off to uni or whatever and you both have a right to enjoy being together. It sounds like you are very close, which is lovely, but I guess that makes him feel a bit pushed out. No excuse for how he's behaving of course but it helps to see the reasoning behind it.
Hope all is still OK with Nick PC - he looks so lovely in the photo you put on FB (very good looking too if you don't mind my saying so [cmile]).

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ginnny · 19/11/2008 16:35

obviously that should have been a at the end!!!

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Tanee58 · 19/11/2008 16:57

Happy Birthday Lilyloo !

Thanks Ginnny, you are right. It's a difficult one. I really don't want DD to think she is being pushed out. We've always been close, which is why we managed to work through her anger when her father and I split. And I enjoy her company. She's getting to the age now where she's liable to say something to him if he pushes too far! (very glad she didn't walk in on him on Saturday night, she was tiddly and the air would have been blue with her language!!!)

Cashncarry · 19/11/2008 17:54

Hello all - just logging in at a more normal hour for a change! Just wanted to send all my love to PC and her family - my fingers toes and everything else is crossed for Nick's recovery xx

ladylush · 19/11/2008 19:34

PC - glad there is no deterioration in your brother's condition. Thinking of you x

HW - so sorry to hear about mil Take care of yourself and your dh. Thinking of you also x

Lilyloo - happy birthday Hope you have had a great day.

Tanee - I hope dp listens to you when you have that talk. DD should not feel like an imposter in her own home.

Kewcumber · 19/11/2008 22:32

nick had sedation stopped yesterday afetrnoon and he hasn't come round yet so they are testing him to see if there is still sedative in his system. So no real change. I thnk they are planning to reduce his blood pressure drugs tomorrow to see if that makes a difference.

The waiting must be so hard for them.

Lilyloo · 19/11/2008 22:38

thanks all!!

Kew how awful this must be i can't imagine!

Dior · 19/11/2008 23:04

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HappyWoman · 20/11/2008 10:48

sorry lillyloo missed your birthday too.

Dior - h is ok but still not able to visit his mum because of family feuding

I have just written an angry email to mil h. Having recieved 2 foul letters from him. Do feel a bit better but i am full of anger today for everything - trying to be contstructive with it by attacting the housework - but keep breaking things.

Neighbours think i am nutty too keep stopping to scream.
Me thinks i have a touch of pmt too .

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