Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

SIL Xmas gifts - disturbing epiphany

306 replies

Finallyseenthelights · Yesterday 05:20

NC’d bc previous threads would make this outing.

As it’s approaching the festive season I’d like to ask for advice please. I’ve been with DP well over a decade. Every year his sister gives me some vaguely weird or semi-unsuitable type of present. It’s not that they’re horrible, just a strange choice I guess.

Apart from a few instances they have generally been toiletry based. One year she gave me a massive gift box of body shop stuff all in one scent. It wasn’t awful, but as I said to my partner - what if I hadn’t liked it? I’d never mentioned liking it to her and she’d never asked. Surely you’d put the feelers out before choosing a specific thing like that?

There’s been other similar stuff, usually from somewhere ok, like joules or next, but to me, toiletries is a risky, cop out gift generally unless you know exactly what the recipient likes, as it’s subjective while also requiring very little thought usually.

For years I’ve asked for vouchers which have been agreed on, then she’ll get me something completely left field - like recently, tickets to a family theatre trip in 6 months time - it actually clashed with my nephew’s bday but she hadn’t even bothered to check to see whether we could do the date. Needless to say we’ve always bought her and her partner exactly what they’ve asked for. I’ve said we should but partner doesn’t want to rock the boat.

We have a set budget which encompasses bdays as well as xmas. I struggle to find a specific thing I like for this amount but last year I found 2 items from a shop I like which were low in stock. I’ve asked for things in the past for our children’s presents which haven’t been bought in time so I decided to buy them myself before they were sold out. I messaged to say I’d done this and did she want to give them to me as a present? (she’d asked what I wanted). I even offered to send them with her parents for her to wrap and send back with them if she wanted to do that (I know this sounds weird but I guess it’s the same as sending them to her address after ordering them) - I stressed that obv this wasn’t necessary, i could wrap them myself and put with the other family presents (she can be funny about the whole process of gifting and I don’t want to offend). I pointed out it was one less thing for her to worry about as she’s usually very busy.

At first she was fine with this. Then a few days later she text to say that actually she wasn’t, that part of the enjoyment for her especially at xmas was thinking about family and what they’d want and getting this etc and that it was nice to be surprised…. This after years of telling us exactly what she, partner and kids wanted and us complying. Confusing but hey ho. What was also weird was that I always put a lot of thought into gifts for everyone. If she gave me a generic item I’d try and get an interesting version of it, which she’d loved (genuinely). And when this happened, some years she’s got me a token bday present - which is weird bc these xmas gifts are meant to include them (my bday is a couple of weeks after xmas).

Anyway, I had a somewhat disconcerting epiphany last year which upset me at the thought of ‘wow this is such CF’ery I can’t believe it’s true’, while at the same time, ‘of course it’s true - how could I possibly have not seen it before?!!!’

We receive our presents AFTER xmas, when the in-laws retune from their visit to her.

When I say…… she’s a teacher……..

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To state the bleeding obvious - am I the only one thinking she’s been re-gifting me presents her students have been giving her for the last 15 years??????!

How would you feel if this was you and what would you do for this xmas? It may not be true, but it is isn’t it.

OP posts:
squarecrow · Yesterday 09:36

People saying they don’t/wouldn’t notice - they would if it was every year, and every year they’re given a specific gift list from that person of exactly what to buy for them.

She doesn’t want to agree to spend less because she doesn’t want you spending less on her.

She says she likes to think of things for the person because she doesn’t want you telling her what you want because then she can’t regift random shit that isn’t what you asked for - she has to say she has chosen this stuff for you.

She is a massive CF and you should tell her you’re not doing it anymore.

Enjoy your stress free Christmas!

Namechangeforthis88 · Yesterday 09:39

The year DBIL and DSIL re-gifted my gift to them straight back to me by post, was the year I decided to leave it to DH in future.

What's more, they had suggested charity gifts. I have them the card with token inside and they sent the token, presented as if they'd coincidentally got the same token. So not only did they not bother, they faked a donation to charity.

HouseHouseHouse7 · Yesterday 09:40

It’s not too late to send a polite and cordial “no Christmas gifts for adults, cost of living blah blah” message for Christmas 2026. That’s what I’d do.

Teachers must receive a number of well-meant but unwanted gifts every year, but that’s what food banks and charity shops are for, not sisters-in-law.

Ohnobackagain · Yesterday 09:41

@Finallyseenthelights I’d have had to ask her “why do you talk about the spontaneity/ joy of picking presents for us, while limiting us to a list for you”.

We have someone who does something similar. Goes through a big rigmarole of finding out what to buy us then doesn’t buy any of the things. Which is fine, just don’t waste time asking!

I pick things for people and I take time to find out what they like so generally they are pleased.

If you don’t want to stop entirely, why not set a much lower limit?

whippersnapper55 · Yesterday 09:41

Finallyseenthelights · Yesterday 09:24

You’d probably object to spending money on someone who won’t spend any on you, unless you’re so well off it’s of no consequence to you?

I would just spend what you want and can afford. You don't know she's regifting, you just suspect it, so you don't know if she's spending on you or not!

Acommonreader · Yesterday 09:42

Finallyseenthelights · Yesterday 05:51

The thing is we have absolutely no problem not doing adult gifts, or lowering the amount- she doesn’t want to. So we spend £80 on her and her husband and they spend £40 max on the pair of us - how is that fair?

I cannot imagine being this transactional! These people are your family, just accept the gifts and stop being so grabby.
Gifts giving is supposed to be fun and kind , not an obsessive competition in ‘fairness’.

JoyousWriter · Yesterday 09:43

Does it matter?

leperol · Yesterday 09:43

Adults gifting to adults is just so childish IMV. Honestly what is the point of another box of chocs/bottle of wine/smellies etc. when the donor and donee gift each other more or less the same things!

Save the planet and give more of your presence not your presents. Being together and enjoying seeing each other is far better. It just takes one person to say it, and everyone else will be very relieved to comply.

Those who don't, feel presents represent love. They don't.

Mycatsfeetsmell · Yesterday 09:44

HelenHywater · Yesterday 09:13

You're really overthinking this. Let your husband get his side of the family presents and leave him to it. Spend £20 and be done with it.

Agree but I think @Finallyseenthelights
has been underthinking it, has gone along with it and finally gone hmmmm!

She is a CFer @Finallyseenthelights

Ps its a MN sport to be oppositional and disagree with Ops, self medicating their own shit lives, they never have a decent explanation just there to bash Ops down, so just ignore
YANBU

GrabbySiLgifts · Yesterday 09:44

Another idea…gosh, I’ve put your and BiL’s presents somewhere and can’t find them now. As soon as I do, I’ll send them (not that they ever existed). Here are your children’s gifts and thank you for those for our DC.
Leave the penny to drop.

flowertoday · Yesterday 09:45

Sorry to be the ultimate humbug here but this is why adults in an extended family network shouldn't buy presents for each other.
Just so depressing- expensive, stressful , wasteful.... Conflict inducing, detracting from what christmas should be about in any sense.
Perhaps this kind of problem could be solved by a family secret santa with a sensible price limit.

Shinyandnew1 · Yesterday 09:52

Finallyseenthelights · Yesterday 06:45

Thank you for understanding. Small windchimes? That’s unique!

Thats great your DH had a word. Ironically my partner was getting fed up with the tat my brother was gifting him and despite receiving nice presents myself I suggested we maybe did vouchers or something and we’ve stopped getting gifts now . I felt guilty both ways but I felt I needed to say something. Frustratingly my partner won’t dream of saying anything to his sister. I have said to her more than once we should probably drop adult gifts bc it’s added jobs at a busy time but she won’t hear of it. It makes sense now.

So your partner was fed up with your relative buying him rubbish so you sorted it, but he won’t do the same for you?! That’s really crappy.

When SiL sends her ‘I want’ list through, she should get a reply saying, ‘I assumed we weren’t doing lists any more as you never buy from our list. We’ve actually already bought our gifts’

It should be your partner that sends that though, but it sounds like he hasn’t got your back here (unlike you did when it came to him!).

Daisymail · Yesterday 09:53

I can't understand why you haven't called her out on this.

Anyhow, it's easily resolved, just tell them you are no longer buying the adults presents.

RandomMess · Yesterday 09:55

As well as saying no adult gifts anymore state the money saved will go towards a nice meal out together when you next meet up to celebrate the family get together.

Lobelia123 · Yesterday 09:56

why are you letting this get under your skin? Just return the same level of attention and energy. Body Shop gift set for her this year, done and dusted. Giving the perfect gift is not some kind of test for how good a person you are or how much you care. Just give her the token and pour yourself a glass of wine.

Yodeldodeldo · Yesterday 09:56

Just stop exchanging gifts with them. Say its for financial reasons, you've had a big bill that's left you a bit shorter than normal.

I'd suggest car failing MOT, expensive drain repairs, something invisible but costly that they can't argue. I don't usually advocate lying but I personally find regifting deceitful.

Janetwin · Yesterday 10:03

flowertoday · Yesterday 09:45

Sorry to be the ultimate humbug here but this is why adults in an extended family network shouldn't buy presents for each other.
Just so depressing- expensive, stressful , wasteful.... Conflict inducing, detracting from what christmas should be about in any sense.
Perhaps this kind of problem could be solved by a family secret santa with a sensible price limit.

That’s what my family used to do. Mum would select a secret Santa for every sibling and sibling in law and budget was about 100. But she stopped a couple of years ago.. It doesn’t really solve the problem when you have a couple of those involved who behave like the OP’s SIL and unfortunately we did. I enjoyed buying really nice thoughtful gifts but then I would get something shitty or, worse nothing.

Wishimaywishimight · Yesterday 10:04

I expect my DH to put some thought into my gifts but other than that I'm happy to accept whatever other relatives/friends give me - they are just tokens of friendship/affection. If I like the gifts, great, otherwise I pass them on or give to the charity shop. I really don't see this as a big deal. Just roll your eyes and leave it to DH to deal with his side.

FirmSnake · Yesterday 10:07

Just return her energy. Can't stand adults whining and getting upset because present from extended family aren't to their standards.

nc43214321 · Yesterday 10:12

Defo just stop with the gifts even for the kids if it’s too stressful. Save yourselves the money and stress. I do believe it needs to come from your husband/partner if it’s his family.

MomOfTwoGirls2 · Yesterday 10:15

From these responses I think there are definitely several re-gifters on the thread 😂

I don’t have anything against re-gifting, but very very cheeky to regift at significantly lower value than the specific gifts she requested from you. Is she generally a bit tight?

I am yet another that recommends putting a stop to adult gifts. Blame COF.

If your DH doesn’t agree, just tell her you have bought all your Xmas gifts already, and give her something in similar budget to what she spends. Something nice enough but a bit boring.

PinkMagpie · Yesterday 10:22

I would text her asking for advice on a ‘friend’ who always asks for very specific gifts and then reciprocates with obvious regifts given after Christmas. Ask for her advice on how to deal with this ‘friend’s’ CF behaviour

CherryKerry · Yesterday 10:24

She's regifting stuff she doesn't like, probably from her year end 'teacher gifts'.

Agree to stop gifting for adults and only buy for family kids until they're 18.

Makes life so much easier as most adults buy their own stuff and don't need anything.

AlleycatMarie · Yesterday 10:25

She’s not regifting if you get large body shop gift sets or theatre tickets - teachers get mugs, pens etc. Honestly you sound a bit ungrateful and her gifts don’t sound bad. Either stop doing gifts for adults or just accept and stop overthinking it.

sugarapplelane · Yesterday 10:25

Just match her energy. Just stop buying her what she wants and match what you buy her with what she buys you. Get her a dove gift set from boots and see what she says. If she moans, just say that you thought the goalposts have shifted and that she gets you them

Swipe left for the next trending thread