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dh left me early this morning

305 replies

lou33 · 31/01/2005 10:34

that's it really

took his credit card, and went. Wouldn't tell me if he was coming back, refused to take his mobile, told me to tell the kids what i wanted.

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lou33 · 02/02/2005 13:21

lol

am ok, feel a bit tired , i guess it takes it out of you. Don't know if it is a blip or symptomatic of something more, but the tsnami and his mum have def not helped, plus a good friend died, my fits , etc.

Guess we will have to wait and see

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Utka · 02/02/2005 13:28

Lou - have logged onto this a bit late. Am thinking of you and really hope things work out.

I can understand that you have to make the trip for your own sanity and wellbeing, and personally think you're absolutely right to go. I liked the point you made about your dh spending some time with the kids and the washing machine (my dh always appreciates me much more after a few days spent with the children and without me!)

I wouldn't underestimate how much reassurance he may secretly be needing though. I think someone else made the point that it is great (and quite unusual) for him to have so much insight into his own state of mind at the moment, and to come clean about it. Your going away, however much for understandable reasons, is obviously worrying him a lot.

Although it might seem like overkill, could you perhaps arrange for one of your local friends (who sound such a wonderful bunch - really supportive!), to pop letters / cards you've written in advance into the post every few days? That way he'd get regular tangible reminders of your love and support to keep him going.

I was really struck by how you said his mother didn't reply to his letters, so perhaps by sending him regular written reminders, this would show him that you are different from her.

It may be a bit naff, but it would be symbolic of the fact that you haven't given up on him, that you're thinking of him even when you're not there, and that you're going to come back. Perhaps they could even be written in a countdown sort of way - you know, 10 days to go, 8 days to go etc.?

I find what you've said about his mother so distressing, but it seems that it's quite common. I know that a friend of mine had a similar situation with her father. It was awful to watch - every time they had contact she would build her hopes up, and then I'd have to hear her making excuses for him as to why he'd not been able to do this or that, and you could just feel her hurt. In the end, she cut off relations with him for a few years, until in the end, he made contact when she had kids. She was very calm and pleasant about it, but basically told him that she wasn't prepared to have a relationship that was so one-sided. By being so adult about it, he was forced to be an adult too (good example of transactional analysis situation, if you've ever come across this in your counselling experiences).

I think I may be local to you, since I'm also a Waverley person. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to support you or help you. I know we don't know oneanother from Adam, but the MN world is a small one (and a friendly one) isn't it?!

lou33 · 02/02/2005 13:33

utka, a lovely post, thank you. I might post him a letter from heathrow, and i will be emailing him too.

honestly i could strangle that woman for the effect she has on dh, it makes my blood boil.

i did a similar thing to your friend with my father when dd1 was born nearly 13 years ago, but he was unwilling to act like a mature adult so we have no contact, and that is fine by me

which part of waverley are you?

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Utka · 02/02/2005 13:33

Lou

One other thought.

It's really difficult when both halves in a relationship are under pressure. Normally, one of you can be extra strong for the other to see them through the bad patch. But things start to unravel when you're both at a low point, and both needing to find yourselves again.

When dh and I have been in a similar place (though I do not count our experiences as being any way close to your recent ones), we've found it helpful to both acknowledge that things are rock bottom - to actually say this to one another - and to agree that we both need short periods of time to sort ourselves out, so that we are better able to come together to then sort 'us' out.

It's hard, because inevitably you can't both have these periods of respite together (I guess that's why people try counselling with a third party), but if you can agree for each of you to have some space, then you may be able to work things out.

In the meantime, try not to beat yourselves up about what you're feeling. This is your bodies' way of telling you you've both had too much.

HTH

lou33 · 02/02/2005 13:35

thanks

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Utka · 02/02/2005 13:38

Lou

I'm in Farnham. I realised I must be local when I spotted the posts from Galaxy. She responded to one of my posts one day and wondered whether she'd ever bumped into me in town. I often wonder whether the people I'm chatting to online live locally. For all I know, they may be people I'm already really friendly with!

lou33 · 02/02/2005 13:39

am near godalming

maybe you, galaxy, me and ks could meet one day, in secretts for a cuppa and a cake?

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Utka · 02/02/2005 14:01

That would be good. Mornings are best for me as dd1 is at nursery, so chat is possible! Do you mean the Secretts at Milford?

lou33 · 02/02/2005 14:46

yes secretts in milford

will get it sorted when i come back from thailand. Make sure you remind me!

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galaxy · 02/02/2005 14:48

Hey Utka, you haven't been on much lately. Lapsedgymjunkie is Farnham too so we should definitely all get together when lou gets back.

NameChangingMancMidlander · 02/02/2005 14:50

Completely off topic and random thought from a non-surreyer (no such word, i know.). But does Secretts sound like a lap/pole club to anyone else ?

Is that the sort of establishment in which you hold your Surrey meet-ups ?! I am most shocked at you all, particularly Miss Lou who I never expected this sort of lewd behaviour from

galaxy · 02/02/2005 14:52

LOL It's a garden centre establishment I'll have you know. They do posh tea and cakes there.

And a fantastic Thai Festival bi-annually. Now that would be a good time for a mass meet up.

NameChangingMancMidlander · 02/02/2005 14:53

snigger

NameChangingMancMidlander · 02/02/2005 14:54

P.S. Someone on here has a DH with the same name as my DH. Is it you, Galaxy ? Mine's initials are S.H.

beachyhead · 02/02/2005 14:55

It is very nice at Secretts and soooo pretty at Christmas...I'm not from Surrey, but used to do that London - Sussex route past the door a lot......

galaxy · 02/02/2005 14:55

Yes that's me. Took me ages to realise who you were before you know.

NameChangingMancMidlander · 02/02/2005 14:56

Ah ha ! I'm a master (mistress) of disguise

FineFigureFio · 02/02/2005 16:04

Lou, sorry i have been offline as dd has been ill. Sorry this has been going on fwiw my husband doesnt talk about much either. his family has also been less than useless with him. They treat him like the black sheep of the family even though he has never done anything wrong. his sister has ALWAYS been out on a pedestal and this ghas always affected dh, even now. Even though he never talks about it (tsk tsk) I also think alot of what parents do to us affects us, you know my own situation and how it even affects how I think aboiut things now, even if it is irrational and when I think about it deeper I know I dont think like that but gut reaction is always the same . Dont know if that makes sense?! But when you have had a parent who is so adulteress, selfish and manipulative and emotionally controlling who belittles and makes you feel dowtrodden constantly, it is hard to think any different...sometimes. I think although he tried to regain contact with his mother it is most probably better that he doesnt as she sounds just awful. You have both been through alot just lately and with your ds having extra needs that always makes things harder and more complicated (I think anyway, you may disagree !)

anyway, i will stop waffling, it most probably is muddleedd. just wanted you to know I am thinking of you and care about you andf i feel really bad for not knowing earlier and replying earlier

xx

lou33 · 02/02/2005 20:13

ncmm, how could you possibly think such a thing of me?!!!!

Fio, thanks, I appreciate you posting, and you make sense to me (first time for everything eh?!)

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mears · 03/02/2005 00:08

Hope you manage to work through this Lou, best wishes, mears

Prufrock · 03/02/2005 20:06

I've only just seen this Lou and am so sorry yuou had to go through this.
I think you do need to make it clar to yoru dh that he needs to address his feelings though - you said he is back to normal - well it's not normal to walk out on your wife and kids, though it is somewhat understandable given everything yoru family has been through. Does he understand that he needs to use the time apart to think about what would make things better for him?

lou33 · 03/02/2005 20:16

Hi Prufrock. He is a difficult person to get through to, although it can be done. I haven't pushed him anymore, because the times i have tried to broach it , he has said what else is there to talk about? Tbh i don't want or need another row right now. We had a slight wobble today, when he started talking about me going away again. He has a certain look in his eyes when he is starting to get cross, so i recognised it. Anyway i managed to talk him out of it, and he went back to his usual self again. He is insecure, I know if i keep trying to drum home abut taking my time away as thinking time out for us, he will contrue that as me saying i want to leave him, so I have to let him think when he is ready, iyswim

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brinkley · 04/02/2005 16:55

LOL NameChangingManc - Secretts does sound well dodgy!

just checking in to see how lou is faring?

gothicmama · 04/02/2005 17:14

lou just seen thi shope you are ok thinking of you - here for support if you need

lou33 · 04/02/2005 17:31

am not too bad thanks

counting down the days to my trip

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