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Anger, Husband, Pregnancy

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AnyaLavrov002 · 15/10/2026 20:41

Am I in the wrong to be furious at my husband. He is refusing to pay for my close friend to have IVF because in his mind she waited 10 years too long to try! We're wealthy, it won't affect us financially and it will give my friend what she so desperately wants with her husband.
He has outright refused despite the fact we live in a beautiful home with some beautiful land all paid for. It is not a financial thing so I don't understand the spitefulness. I adore him, he has given me and our four boys the world but I cry for my friend.
I was stupid and told her we would pay before speaking with my husband, she is excited and I don't want to crush her dreams! He has refused to speak about it for two days and has stayed in his games room with the boys. My friend is 36 years old and time is not good for her.
She had one IVF cycle on the NHS and it didn't work, her and her husband don't have fertility problems or none that was discovered. I want her to have what we have and cherish so bad!

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sassyclassyandsmartassy · 16/10/2026 08:11

Sorry OP, the sentiment is noble (if a bit look at me aren’t I so generous and kind because I have so much more than you).

However, the chances of success, as already proven by the one failure, are slim, so actually you aren’t helping your friend. I have watched friends do this and I call it the doom cycle, multiple rounds of IVF, debt and still nothing to show for it other than lost years, broken dreams and, sometimes, relationships that never recover. Its why my DH and I never entered the doom spiral, but, rather chose to focus on building a life we love and, to be honest, I am glad we did that. Of course I have a wonderful SS who has been in my life since he was young and I am hugely grateful we have a great relationship, but he is not mine.

You come across as very childish in your responses to other people too, you couldn’t see that promising money that wasn’t yours to solely give (not that I would even commit this amount of my own money to a friend without discussing it with my husband) was unacceptable and felt hurt when others pointed this out to you, you are ‘cross at your husband’ for refusing when he has every right to and then you assert that, rather than accepting his position you will ‘speak to him again’ when this has already caused a rift between you that’s see him remove himself from your company altogether.

Remember you can be a millionaire on paper and have very little liquid equity in the bank, do you know know and where all the money is? Maybe your husband has invested it in places it is not immediately easily accessible. £8k is still a lot of money and, as others have said, if this doesn’t work (and it has more chance of not than actually doing so) where do you draw the line?

Just so you are aware, I also come at this from a place where my mother wouldn’t give my brother the money for IVF, after a long and difficult decision making process she concluded it was simply something she couldn’t take responsibility for. My mother is also a millionaire, on paper, as is my grandfather, that money doesn’t go as far as you think anymore and being a ‘millionaire’ isn’t what it once was, both have worked hard (extremely hard and sacrificed a lot given they both remember having little to nothing growing up) for that too, (my grandfather is 101 and still does a little accounting work to keep his mind ticking over).

Cyclingmummy1 · 16/10/2026 08:13

I can't imagine committing a 5 figure sum to something you have no control over. It's not buying a baby, it's not guaranteed. How many cycles did you want to commit to?

blondeseaside · 16/10/2026 08:17

Do you not have any money of your own? That's a worry in itself.

MsMacheath · 16/10/2026 08:19

AnyaLavrov002 · 15/10/2026 21:40

We are married. For all the judgemental people, just think how you would feel if you couldn't have a child and somebody could help you but refused. Unexplained infertility is hell on earth! What happened to women helping women in need! Night.

I'm a woman. I don't approve of any assisted fertility procedures so I would have refused my money for that ground. If you care so much use your own money.

Fortuity · 16/10/2026 08:20

Bonden · 16/10/2026 02:24

Why would you not, given it doesn’t “cost”’the OP. Thats if one is a kind and loving friend of course

Because it costs her husband? Being a millionaire nowadays doesn't necessarily mean being able to spray thousand of pounds around without noticing.

Dontbesonosy · 16/10/2026 08:21

If I had the money I would help a friend. But it would be MY money.
Team husband here.

Fortuity · 16/10/2026 08:23

AnyaLavrov002 · 15/10/2026 21:59

32 year friendship. She has a heart of gold. If it was me I know she would do the same, she deserves her happiness and she will be an incredible mother! Already an incredible wife! It's our money but he made the majority, I will speak with him. She may have waited too long but she doesn't deserve to be childless.

I do hope your conversation with your husband is going to start with a big apology.

LemonDrizzle44 · 16/10/2026 08:24

AnyaLavrov002 · 15/10/2026 21:19

Im so hurt by these replies. I was trying to help somebody complete a dream. I wanted some support but instead people think I'm a control freak.

I say this as someone who has been through IVF (and was given a less than 5% chance of it being successful).

But IVF is not a guarantee to complete her dream, it’s a chance! What if the next cycle is unsuccessful, will there be expectation of funding the next, when does it stop?

I understand being childless not through her own choice is heartbreaking, it’s a reality I potentially had to face, so I get it. But that’s not your responsibility or your husbands to sort. There are other ways as PPs have said to make a family, albeit adoption and fostering are not for everyone.

Theres also funding packages/payment plans for IVF, or going abroad for treatment is significantly cheaper.

cocochoola · 16/10/2026 08:25

A bizarre move on your part, OP. As someone who has had fertility issues, i would feel extremely uncomfortable accepting money from a friend for this - it could well take multiple rounds, maybe never work? At what point were you expecting to turn off the free money? Without consultation from your husband? No - sorry. I think you are a bit tone deaf, to be honest.

Warmlight1 · 16/10/2026 08:28

FunPartyIdeas · 16/10/2026 08:09

They'll be someone coming along before too long saying they're married so his money is hers,, even though he's earned it...

What about the value of her labour, as in work as a parent? Because though she hasn't said it's possible that's 50 50 but would be very likely.

lessglittermoremud · 16/10/2026 08:29

You should have had a conversation with him about it before you offered but I can see why you’re upset.
It sounds as though she is a life long friend going through a really hard time, I think most people would want to help their dearest friend if it was within their capabilities.
Im not sure why he thinks she left it 10 years too late, I don’t know anyone that had children at 26, most women in my circle including myself had our first children in our early 30’s.
I think the biggest point here is that although you are married whilst you consider your family money joint money, your DH doesn’t. If you had your own money independently of him you would be free to spend it how you choose, I’m not sure if you’re working at the moment but I would definitely look at trying to save some money for yourself so you can spend it as you wish.
If we were absolutely loaded, my DH would want me to help my friend if we were in your situation. He wouldn’t appreciate being blind sided by it though.
Despite not being loaded my DH knows I regularly donate money to various things, he doesn’t get annoyed because like me he knows that really, you can’t take it with you when you shuffle off…

MyDeftDuck · 16/10/2026 08:30

I’m in camp DH. Nice that you wanted to support your friend but giving the amount of cash for an unknown number of IVF rounds is unreasonable and ridiculous tbh.
What happens in a few years time if you and the friend have fallen out?? ……..How do you think you’ll feel about it then?

NovaF · 16/10/2026 08:33

Regarding the waiting too long I think that is really harsh. The NHS advise couples try for two years before they even try to find an underlying cause. Add in the time it takes for scans, to get the body prepped for ivf and the cycles, the friend was probably trying since she was 32/33.

That is not too old to start, it is average! One of my friends has been trying since she was 26 and only conceived when she was 35. If your husband does not want to spend the family money on that, that is one thing, but the comment about she waited until she was too old was uncalled for.

do you not have your own money or savings you could use? Why does your husband hold the purse strings?

SplishSplash123 · 16/10/2026 08:35

Your friend can get finance for IVF if she can't afford to pay upfront - tell her to look up clinics that partner with Access Fertility.

Your husband is not being unreasonable as it's a lot of money to spend on someone else's life. It's also very open-ended. How many rounds of IVF would you fund, how many additional procedures might be added on etc? It also sounds like he is the main earner? Do you have separate savings you could use to give your friend if you wish? You were very unfair - to both your friend and your husband - to say you'd pay for this without discussing with your husband first.

I have a lot of sympathy for your friend, Ive had IVF myself and currently planning another round to try for baby no2 at 36, it's definitely not too late for her! It is such a shame the NHS only funds one round as there are lots of people who end up doing really well out of a second round even if the first fails, due to the information from the first round guiding the clinic as to what to do differently second time round. Please do continue to support her emotionally if not financially.

beAsensible1 · 16/10/2026 08:38

maybe Save up your side of the money and give to her or cut back on your disposable and give to her next year? But clearly you can’t take a lump sum from joint funds

YourWildAmberSloth · 16/10/2026 08:48

AnyaLavrov002 · 15/10/2026 21:46

So does that mean you would refuse help from the NHS as well? I'm shocked at the replies. Any women here that has suffered infertility?

I have, and I'm sure there are many others who have. However, that doesn't change the fact that even having suffered with infertitlity (I had a miracle natural pregnancy at 44 after years of failed IVF), I still think that you overstepped. The absolute worst thing that you could have done - albeit with the best intentions - was to dangle a carrot in front of her, without checking with DH that it was possible. She is 36 and time is not on her side, but that doesn't mean that you have to fix it. If DH had offered a large sum of money to a friend without at least discussing it with you first, my answer would be the same. Also how much did you offer to give to her, how many attempts would you fund or was it going to be limitless? If the first attempt fails (as the majority do), you would feel obligated to pay for another, and then another - at what point would you be prepared to say enough? Depending on how long they've been trying, and what the issue is - you could be paying for a lot of different treatments, donor eggs from abroad, surgical interventions etc. IVF is not some magic bullet that works every time. It sounds like you didn't really think it through.

WishIStudiedScience · 16/10/2026 08:49

AnyaLavrov002 · 15/10/2026 21:59

32 year friendship. She has a heart of gold. If it was me I know she would do the same, she deserves her happiness and she will be an incredible mother! Already an incredible wife! It's our money but he made the majority, I will speak with him. She may have waited too long but she doesn't deserve to be childless.

So who, in your opinion, does 'deserve' to be childless?

Speaking as someone without children.

IcyShark · 16/10/2026 08:50

Sorry but im with your husband on this. Promising to pay for treatment wasn't your call to make to be honest without speaking to your husband first. What you've done now is promise them the world, something she so desperately wants and is looking to you to now provide that for her. You say they have no fertility problems highlighted. How long have they been trying?

Abracadabra274 · 16/10/2026 08:51

I’m quite surprised by the responses. I think it completely depends on how you split finances. If the majority of your money is in a shared account, and you are millionaires, I can completely understand how you would just offer assuming it would be no issue. If you keep separate accounts and are actively requesting he pay from his account, then yes you really should have discussed this before the offer!

Despite that I feel he is being a little mean. If this genuinely would be a drop in the ocean to your finances, why would someone not want to help a friend of 32 years?! To have the ability to help someone, with no impact to you, and choosing not to does seem cruel..

I used to be dirt poor, and had a wealthier friend who would help out here and there (without asking). I’m now in a better financial position and help out a different friend here and there.

Zov · 16/10/2026 08:51

AnyaLavrov002 · 15/10/2026 20:41

Am I in the wrong to be furious at my husband. He is refusing to pay for my close friend to have IVF because in his mind she waited 10 years too long to try! We're wealthy, it won't affect us financially and it will give my friend what she so desperately wants with her husband.
He has outright refused despite the fact we live in a beautiful home with some beautiful land all paid for. It is not a financial thing so I don't understand the spitefulness. I adore him, he has given me and our four boys the world but I cry for my friend.
I was stupid and told her we would pay before speaking with my husband, she is excited and I don't want to crush her dreams! He has refused to speak about it for two days and has stayed in his games room with the boys. My friend is 36 years old and time is not good for her.
She had one IVF cycle on the NHS and it didn't work, her and her husband don't have fertility problems or none that was discovered. I want her to have what we have and cherish so bad!

What? Really?! I would not be paying for ANYone's IVF except my DC.

What a bizarre situation. Of course YABU.

notanothernamesurely · 16/10/2026 08:52

Afraid you shouldn’t have offered this to a friend without consulting your husband. I don’t think he is wrong to disagree. But now you’ve put yourself in a very awkward situation. I think the only way out if to apologise to the friend and explain that husband does not agree to spend his money on this and unfortunately you don’t have any money of your own.

Your friends IVF journey could be long and very hard. It might be better to support her through the adoption process.

JenRummy · 16/10/2026 08:58

Why not use your own money to pay for it? You seem to be the irresistible force on this OP. Your DH is to be railroaded into it by sounds of it. Why not just pay for it yourself? With all that wealth you must have a bit of jewellery you can hock if you don’t have cash to hand, if you feel that strongly? I get you helping your friend but why should your DH? Why promise without even asking him???

Happyjoe · 16/10/2026 09:01

AnyaLavrov002 · 15/10/2026 21:19

Im so hurt by these replies. I was trying to help somebody complete a dream. I wanted some support but instead people think I'm a control freak.

Not a control freak, but foolish to promise someone else's money. The intention of course was kind.
Unless you have your own am afraid you're going to have to let your friend down.

GrandmasCat · 16/10/2026 09:03

Team husband here too.

The more you write the more entitled and foolish you look. Your husband is dead right to be angry, your friend is on a cloud she is going to fall from and you are still thinking you are right because you promised to help when you didn’t have your own money to pay for it? Bonkers really…

Goaliestar · 16/10/2026 09:03

OP, perhaps you need to return to work, because your husband doesn't believe the marital money is equally yours.
How long are you married?
How much are we talking about?
One round, more than that?
Has he discussed it with you, or a flat out no?

I would be disappointed too.
Sounds like he is the boss of the house.
I wouldn't be happy with that.