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Friend reported me to Social Services

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RainbowPeppercorns · Yesterday 11:46

I have been a carer to my elderly parents for many years now. They are both in their early nineties and Dad has just been diagnosed with a terminal condition that means he probably doesn't have long.

Until a few weeks back he was in a care home whilst we made adaptations to their home with some assistance from Occupational Therapy.

He is now back home. We are nursing him in bed as he can't really get up.

It has been such a difficult time. Unfortunately there have been some clashes with my mother over his care. She used to be a GP and has always been very vocal and forthright. They also didn't have a particularly easy marriage. There has been verbal conflict and I ended up throwing stuff around and walking out.

All OK now, apologies etc. She still believes she did nothing wrong by shouting and screaming at me over a tiny thing but I understand as we are both suffering anticipatory grief.

I've been confiding in and leaning on a friend of many years. He was a social worker but had a nervous breakdown and left the profession. Unfortunately he has rang Social Services and told them I have been violent towards my parents.

The police have been to take a statement and my Mum is totally horrified and insisting she doesn't want me prosecuted. Adult Protective Services are investigating.

The case worker told me who reported me. Apparently they are legally obligated to do so.

I haven't spoken with friend yet but I feel really let down.

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PoppieCock · Yesterday 16:12

BubblingBobbling · Yesterday 15:59

Everyone needs to stop piling on to the op.

She has stated this was a one off incident. It’s obvious from the replies that many posting on here have zero idea the strain caring for elderly and unwell parents places on a carer’s wellbeing. Paid carers get training, a weekly wage, holiday leave, sick pay etc. Caring for a parent is non-stop stress, there is little to no support for family carers and sometimes….just sometimes we crack. That’s not an excuse for any kind of abuse but it’s fairly obvious from the op that she is not abusing her parents.

Op, you may find more helpful replies if you have this moved over to the elderly parents board.

Except no-one is piling onto the OP.

Some think it was the right call and others think it wasn't.

Kossak · Yesterday 16:13

Who are all these saints who have looked after much loved dying parents, coping with all the horrors of terminal illness and the general inadequacy of the support available (non-existent in many cases) and never once had a small melt down?

speakball · Yesterday 16:18

but in this case, the op presented it as a one off explosive row.

which to be fair is exactly how instances of chronically unsafe caregiving will usually appear at first.

Capybara75 · Yesterday 16:19

I can’t believe some of the sanctimonious replies on here. Caring for a dying person is awful - both you and your mother are under huge stress. As far as I understand the current state of play an army of carers isn’t suddenly going to step out of the wings. Take care of yourself and bin the ‘friend’.

BillieWiper · Yesterday 16:20

Stompythedinosaur · Yesterday 15:47

Frightening people via aggressive behaviour is assault, though. It's part of the definition.

What would you think of an ex-social worker who didn't report an assault on a vulnerable person?

They probably didn't want to be in that situation, but how could they have ignored it?

I just didn't think she described an assault. Is throwing something but not at a person assault? If it is then they should report it but I just didn't think it was.

Happyjoe · Yesterday 16:26

Octavia64 · Yesterday 15:32

I’m not elderly but I am disabled.

having an able bodied person angry at you and throwing things is genuinely terrifying.

i can’t run out of the way, I can’t easily move, I’m a sitting duck for their anger.

obviously we do not know if the op was throwing things at people or near people but if this is what happened it is scary.

yes, being a carer is hard. But if someone isn’t coping to the point of throwing things then that does need to be looked at.

You're presuming she threw anything at her mum and judging her on something that you don't know happened.

Alittlefrustrated · Yesterday 16:26

ThreeMogsAndCounting · Yesterday 12:05

Unless ive missed something OP lost her temper and threw stuff around, not threw stuff at her mum. How is that abusive?

Friend should have spoken to you in the first instance. Instead they've reported you and created more stress and difficulty at a difficult time. Not sure I'd be able to talk to them again if I were you.

Being with someone who is angry and throwing things could be very frightening. It is abusive behaviour - even worse when the other people are vulnerable eg elderly(90's!!) ill or a child.

MissMoneyFairy · Yesterday 16:26

Smegsybaby · Yesterday 15:56

Your friend is a complete do-gooder, an attention starved and irrelevant jerk, a lying manipulator and a narc. Friends are for trusting, not tattling.

What's he lied about?

Boomer55 · Yesterday 16:29

ThreeMogsAndCounting · Yesterday 12:05

Unless ive missed something OP lost her temper and threw stuff around, not threw stuff at her mum. How is that abusive?

Friend should have spoken to you in the first instance. Instead they've reported you and created more stress and difficulty at a difficult time. Not sure I'd be able to talk to them again if I were you.

It can be seen as abusive. Both having dealt with two parents, with dementia, etc, it’s not easy.

JuliaAgrippina · Yesterday 16:36

BubblingBobbling · Yesterday 15:59

Everyone needs to stop piling on to the op.

She has stated this was a one off incident. It’s obvious from the replies that many posting on here have zero idea the strain caring for elderly and unwell parents places on a carer’s wellbeing. Paid carers get training, a weekly wage, holiday leave, sick pay etc. Caring for a parent is non-stop stress, there is little to no support for family carers and sometimes….just sometimes we crack. That’s not an excuse for any kind of abuse but it’s fairly obvious from the op that she is not abusing her parents.

Op, you may find more helpful replies if you have this moved over to the elderly parents board.

If it is just normal extreme stress of dealing with eldery and very ill parents - the HCP will have seen it before and may offer additional support.

Though I agree eldery parents board is a really good place to post and vent when needed.

I can see why OP is upset though - I vented to some friends after a bad week with young kids of extranous stuff - illness wider family being shit and event being organised by me - and got some good advice but a children center staff member who'd just been on course and was apparenly listening in decide it meant I wasn't coping and then had HV doing unannouned drop in at terrible time for me and kids - but said we had to see her there and then or it would go to SS - no help just questions. I was very careful was was said and where after that.

Owl55 · Yesterday 16:37

Two parents in their nineties, a terminal diagnosis for one of them , she’s been a carer for years , I hope the social services can offer your parents more support , no wonder you snapped maybe your friend thought he would be helping you in a very difficult situation , let’s hope you all get some extra support to enable you to be a loving daughter to your dad and not solely his carer in the time he has left . 🩷

LondonLass2026 · Yesterday 16:38

Kossak · Yesterday 16:13

Who are all these saints who have looked after much loved dying parents, coping with all the horrors of terminal illness and the general inadequacy of the support available (non-existent in many cases) and never once had a small melt down?

Not sure who you're aiming that at, as you won't quote anyone, but I'm in the category you describe. I had my "meltdowns" in private. Never ever in front of my mum. With her dementia it would have terrified her. She literally turned into a child, mentally.

Feeling something, and acting it out in front of a very vulnerable person, are two very different things.

I still support the op as I know how horrific it is to care for ill parents.

CorgiOctopus · Yesterday 16:41

Stompythedinosaur · Yesterday 16:04

I'm genuinely shocked by the number of posters who believe that reporting concerns about abuse is "grassing" or that potential abuse should be ignored if the person is under enough stress.

Yes, it's understandable the op was under stress. People do things that aren't ideal sometimes. It almost certainly won't be taken forwards.

But none of that means it shouldn't have been reported.

I honestly think anyone who wouldn't report potential abuse if it was from a friend lacks integrity.

I would hate to have friends like this.

Not even a stern: ‘This really isn't ok, this is something I’d report, you need to get help because I’m starting to feel conflicted’, if they were genuinely concerned.

Throwing stuff ‘around’ isn't great but even shouting can be considered abusive. Has anyone here never shouted? Proportionality and tact exists!

Thebigarsedbitch · Yesterday 16:42

MissMoneyFairy · Yesterday 13:40

You threw things around and walked out, your mum shouts and screams, this is obviously difficult for you both. The "friend" has actually done the right thing, hopefully this will lead to your parents being assessed and your dad getting the care and support he obviously needs.

What is more likely to happen is that OP's father will be shunted off to a care home or hospital, depending on the current nursing needs, and live out his final days on a noisy NHS ward, OP's mother will have to soldier on alone and OP will be out of the picture entirely. If her so called friend felt that OP was at breaking point it would have been more useful and constructive to have simply helped her to arrange extra care cover so that she could have some respite from the caring burden. I know from personal experience that it never pays to have any involvement from SS who will simply do whatever is easiest and cheapest rather than what's best. This could all go to shit very quickly now.

Barney16 · Yesterday 16:43

Only you know went on OP. And your mum of course. I think your friend felt he had to report. I understand that. However if I was you I think my immediate reaction would be that I didn't want to be friends with him anymore.

Happyjoe · Yesterday 16:44

Kossak · Yesterday 16:13

Who are all these saints who have looked after much loved dying parents, coping with all the horrors of terminal illness and the general inadequacy of the support available (non-existent in many cases) and never once had a small melt down?

The ones who are on good drugs - or never done it!

Happyjoe · Yesterday 16:47

speakball · Yesterday 16:18

but in this case, the op presented it as a one off explosive row.

which to be fair is exactly how instances of chronically unsafe caregiving will usually appear at first.

Ogs, so dramatic!
Or to be fair could actually be a one off?!

growinguptobreakingdown · Yesterday 16:51

I've worked in safeguarding. If I had concerns about a friend I would have told them I was referring them to social services as I have a duty of care and think they need support.I wouldn't do it behind their back.

GintyMcGinty · Yesterday 16:59

Your friend did the right thing. So have social work and the police.

your dad is a vulnerable adult and these things need checking out

speakball · Yesterday 17:02

Or to be fair could actually be a one off?!

i’ll ask again. how would you know it was a one off. and you can’t say ‘because they said it was’

Dumbledora8 · Yesterday 17:13

You need to learn to regulate your emotions, not throw tantrums and lose your temper at your parents who are in their 90s ffs. Your mate did the right thing

PyrexCup · Yesterday 17:13

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PyrexCup · Yesterday 17:14

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Gwenhwyfar · Yesterday 17:14

Lifelover16 · Yesterday 13:28

Maybe he spoke to social services because he could see you and your mum were stressed and upset and needed extra help. Perhaps he was doing it from a good place rather than a malicious one.

But if he knows how it works, he would have known that the police could have been called?

PyrexCup · Yesterday 17:16

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