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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

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envbeckyc · 12/10/2026 19:22

Doone22 · 12/10/2026 17:40

Hes paying child maintenance ffs!
And trying to keep all sorts of things for when/if they ever get to meet like cash and cards. He clearly thinks of him all the time and its also natural to want to not rock the boat.

He sounds like he's turned his life around so why would you not give him a chance? Have you never made a mistake? Are you perfect?

He claims to paying child maintenance- ask to see a copy of the Court Order.

U.S. Enforcement (UIFSA): In the United States, foreign maintenance orders are handled under the Uniform Interstate Family Support Act (UIFSA), which allows U.S. state courts to register and enforce a UK child maintenance order as if it were a domestic order.

Reciprocal Enforcement (REMO and Hague Convention): The UK and the USA have active international enforcement agreements, including the 2007 Hague Convention on the International Recovery of Child Support and Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Orders (REMO).

If he is paying maintenance then it will be because it’s court mandated, it’s usually a requirement in the UK for a single parent to pursue payments through the court system to ensure that an appropriate financial contribution for the raising of a child.

If it’s court mandated, he will have no choice but to pay… he claims the child’s mother is hostile to him… so it seems very unlikely that a voluntary agreement would be in place, especially if they have left the continent!

If maintenance is via a court order it’s a legal requirement… not a choice!
You don’t get credit for providing the absolute legal minimum!

I literally smell a rat reading the OPs posts…. and nothing about his story in anyway makes any sense at all!

I have never been stupid enough to date a man like this…. but I have friends who were and guess what, the old adage that ‘a leopard never changes its spots’

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 19:25

envbeckyc · 12/10/2026 19:22

He claims to paying child maintenance- ask to see a copy of the Court Order.

U.S. Enforcement (UIFSA): In the United States, foreign maintenance orders are handled under the Uniform Interstate Family Support Act (UIFSA), which allows U.S. state courts to register and enforce a UK child maintenance order as if it were a domestic order.

Reciprocal Enforcement (REMO and Hague Convention): The UK and the USA have active international enforcement agreements, including the 2007 Hague Convention on the International Recovery of Child Support and Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Orders (REMO).

If he is paying maintenance then it will be because it’s court mandated, it’s usually a requirement in the UK for a single parent to pursue payments through the court system to ensure that an appropriate financial contribution for the raising of a child.

If it’s court mandated, he will have no choice but to pay… he claims the child’s mother is hostile to him… so it seems very unlikely that a voluntary agreement would be in place, especially if they have left the continent!

If maintenance is via a court order it’s a legal requirement… not a choice!
You don’t get credit for providing the absolute legal minimum!

I literally smell a rat reading the OPs posts…. and nothing about his story in anyway makes any sense at all!

I have never been stupid enough to date a man like this…. but I have friends who were and guess what, the old adage that ‘a leopard never changes its spots’

That is if his manipulative ex actually went through the courts to get child maintenance from someone she blocked from seeing their child.
So what if it is court mandated? He’s still paying it.

Don’t think he’s looking for ‘credit’ just being honest with his date…

PJ98 · 12/10/2026 19:28

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 18:16

‘Left his kid’ The kid he was quite possibly set up in to having by an equally unstable partner and then blocked from seeing?
Again what was he supposed to do? Stay in his rut and get messed around by her or go and improve his life??
I never said your life was super easy

Everything you & several posters have said for the last few pages is wild speculation. OP didnt say/doesnt know half of this stuff. Everyone has ran so far with half a tale.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 19:40

PJ98 · 12/10/2026 19:28

Everything you & several posters have said for the last few pages is wild speculation. OP didnt say/doesnt know half of this stuff. Everyone has ran so far with half a tale.

At least you recognise that and not like many who have jumped all over this guy.
someone defending a woman who has blocked access and then apparently demanded child payment.
Atrocious

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 19:45

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 18:33

I bet if the OPs date was a woman your response would be somewhere between
‘She’s had her issues but obviously worked really hard to overcome them, I’d definitely give her a chance’ to
‘ well she did leave but it sounded like she had no choice, she’s been honest, I’m not sure I’d date her but it might be worth seeing if she’s genuine in what she says but be careful’
Gaslit is your new vile

You'd lose that bet.🤣🤣🤣

But seriously, you are imagining a stranger's response to an imaginary thread. Do you not think that's a wee bit mad?

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 19:51

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 19:45

You'd lose that bet.🤣🤣🤣

But seriously, you are imagining a stranger's response to an imaginary thread. Do you not think that's a wee bit mad?

Well, so you say. We can’t trust what anyone says here…
I think it’s mad someone copy and pasting ai advice to back up a woman who blocks child access and then demands payment to the father while tearing him down.

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 20:06

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 19:51

Well, so you say. We can’t trust what anyone says here…
I think it’s mad someone copy and pasting ai advice to back up a woman who blocks child access and then demands payment to the father while tearing him down.

Now you're creating imaginary posters too?🙈

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 20:12

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 20:06

Now you're creating imaginary posters too?🙈

No, the one above yours and my last posts

Doone22 · 12/10/2026 20:40

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SquirrelMadness · 12/10/2026 20:42

Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 20:46

SquirrelMadness · 12/10/2026 20:42

Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.

I was thinking reading this thread is like watching a penguin try to play baseball, it think it’s Joe DiMaggio but doesn’t have the ability to hold the bat.

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 20:47

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The OP has had one date with this man.

SquirrelMadness · 12/10/2026 21:03

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 20:46

I was thinking reading this thread is like watching a penguin try to play baseball, it think it’s Joe DiMaggio but doesn’t have the ability to hold the bat.

I was thinking how lucky it is that the OP had several pages of well meant advice, much of which was aimed at pointing out potential dangers, before you and the other trolls turned up to derail the thread, invent facts, bully and wind everyone up.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 21:11

SquirrelMadness · 12/10/2026 21:03

I was thinking how lucky it is that the OP had several pages of well meant advice, much of which was aimed at pointing out potential dangers, before you and the other trolls turned up to derail the thread, invent facts, bully and wind everyone up.

Giving different advice is derailment?
Nobodies bullied anyone? Expect maybe that peach yesterday tried to.

envbeckyc · 12/10/2026 21:15

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 19:25

That is if his manipulative ex actually went through the courts to get child maintenance from someone she blocked from seeing their child.
So what if it is court mandated? He’s still paying it.

Don’t think he’s looking for ‘credit’ just being honest with his date…

He ‘claims’ to be paying it…. he claims a lot of things that do not seem honest or truthful!

You are also assuming that his ex is manipulative based on the account of a person who heard it from someone on a first date without any independent verification!

This just adds to my doubts about his honesty… the mother of his child (who he has no contact with) lives on another continent, so he can say whatever he likes… he knows that it is unlikely he will be found out though!

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 21:17

envbeckyc · 12/10/2026 21:15

He ‘claims’ to be paying it…. he claims a lot of things that do not seem honest or truthful!

You are also assuming that his ex is manipulative based on the account of a person who heard it from someone on a first date without any independent verification!

This just adds to my doubts about his honesty… the mother of his child (who he has no contact with) lives on another continent, so he can say whatever he likes… he knows that it is unlikely he will be found out though!

Well it might be all bullshit or all true or somewhere in the middle.
Why would he even say any of this though if he doesn’t want to be truthful? He’s on another continent he doesn’t have to say anything and there is zero chance his date would ever find out

LizandDerekGoals · 12/10/2026 21:26

He has volunteered that he is an alcoholic with a child he doesnt have anything to do with. So much so he moved countries, so clearly no intention of being involved.

addiction also has a strong genetic component so I wouldnt want to have a child with an addict. And having a child with an addict might just be the cause of a relapse. It is a trigger. Then what?

slugjelly · 12/10/2026 21:35

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 21:17

Well it might be all bullshit or all true or somewhere in the middle.
Why would he even say any of this though if he doesn’t want to be truthful? He’s on another continent he doesn’t have to say anything and there is zero chance his date would ever find out

Except it has worked a treat hasn’t it. She’s super invested, way more than anyone who is on a usual date with someone not doing a manipulative overshare.

Also, let’s say if, by some bizarre twist, it is true in the way he’s framing it, I still say ltb just on the grounds of his chaotic approach to dating chat.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 21:41

slugjelly · 12/10/2026 21:35

Except it has worked a treat hasn’t it. She’s super invested, way more than anyone who is on a usual date with someone not doing a manipulative overshare.

Also, let’s say if, by some bizarre twist, it is true in the way he’s framing it, I still say ltb just on the grounds of his chaotic approach to dating chat.

Edited

Sounds like they were getting on well and over the course of the date he decided to share about himself, why is that manipulative?

I’d find it weird if someone left it a few dates to share they had a kid
What do some of you talk about on dates or do you go watch a film and stay silent?

slugjelly · 12/10/2026 21:44

He hasn’t shared he has a kid in the normal sense. He’s given a total sob story painting himself entirely in the right, and on a kind of journey of repentance. I think it bodes ill.

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 22:13

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 21:17

Well it might be all bullshit or all true or somewhere in the middle.
Why would he even say any of this though if he doesn’t want to be truthful? He’s on another continent he doesn’t have to say anything and there is zero chance his date would ever find out

He wants a green card.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 22:16

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 22:13

He wants a green card.

Then why say something that might raise ‘red flags’??

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 22:25

He's still has an addict's mindset: Manipulative with a deep sense of victimhood, lack of boundaries and a tendency to trauma dump.

Not to mention the gaslighting, that you called yourself, on his first date with @VelvetPetals11.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 22:32

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 22:25

He's still has an addict's mindset: Manipulative with a deep sense of victimhood, lack of boundaries and a tendency to trauma dump.

Not to mention the gaslighting, that you called yourself, on his first date with @VelvetPetals11.

Edited

Said he got sad talking about his son. Not sure if it’s a case of ‘trauma dumping’ or gaslighting.

aquashiv · 12/10/2026 23:16

Nope