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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 02:48

30DegreesHighAndRising · 10/10/2026 02:40

Did he explain how he was able to move to the USA? Unless he already had the right to live there, it seems odd that he was able to move there. I thought the rules were a bit more strict about who is allowed to move there. It doesn't sound like he had much to offer the country.

He moved to the US through a company that sponsored his work visa. He said he’s in IT of some kind.

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 02:50

MCF86 · 10/10/2026 02:41

Why would you bother asking the question if everybody who responds in the way you didn't want just gets "but surely it counts for something" back?

I’m a glass half full type of girl. I try to see the good in people lol.

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PPAPPINE · 10/10/2026 02:50

It’s so depressing that the bar is still so low for men.
You can’t be that desperate that you’re considering seeing some complete loser again after meeting him once, because he’s feigned a slight interest in the child he left in a different continent and hasn’t seen for 6 years?! 😫 come on OP. Find your self worth, find some positive, feminist influencers online and realise you can do better and that we need to stop excusing shit behaviour from men.

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 02:53

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 10/10/2026 02:41

Also, while he was on dating apps or wherever he met you, he could have emailed some places to get the ball rolling. But…..he didn’t.

Yeh thats true, and I do agree he could have taken steps sooner. I suppose what I’m trying to work out is whether someone should be judged entirely on what they haven’t done in the past, or whether the changes they’ve made and what they do going forward should count as well.

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HettyTagliatelli · 10/10/2026 03:00

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 02:38

I would hope it means actually getting in contact with a family law advisor and start things off if he’s really genuinely interested like he said.

Right, so in reality it means he’s done nothing, otherwise he’d be telling you that he’s already in the process of legal action.

His words are meaningless. He’s not done anything, he’s just saying that he’s going to because he wants to get in your pants and he knows that doing nothing to parent his child while he lives on another continent makes him sound like the arse that he is.

GarlicEverything · 10/10/2026 03:00

If this were a relationship that already had legs, I'd be thinking about contacting the ex to get her perspective on this. On the face of things, it seems unlikely that he's paying child support while receiving no feedback whatsoever and with zero contact.

However, I've been in recovery and know how important reparations can be. That one factor suggests it might be true. All the same, this is a hell of a lot for a first date and you seem dangerously eager to trust in everything he tells you.

I recommend scepticism. Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out! Also - why choose complications? Have you a tendency to take on a rescuer role? Don't you deserve a nice, straightforward relationship with a nice, straightforward man?

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 10/10/2026 03:03

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 02:53

Yeh thats true, and I do agree he could have taken steps sooner. I suppose what I’m trying to work out is whether someone should be judged entirely on what they haven’t done in the past, or whether the changes they’ve made and what they do going forward should count as well.

But his past failures to be a dad have definitely happened.

His future possibilities are just talk. He’s not done any of them. He’s not contacted a solicitor. He’s not posted any cards. He’s not sent any presents. He’s not looked for a job so he can move back to the UK. He’s done nothing but talk about what might happen.

I might miraculously become a decent cook. I might finish painting the hallway. I might clean the inside of my car. I might move to China and become a fluent Chinese speaker and have my own tv programme interviewing Chinese opticians. We all ‘might’ do things but until we actually ‘do’ them then it’s meaningless nonsense.

GarlicEverything · 10/10/2026 03:06

FYI, the US can and does enforce child support orders from the UK.

To enforce a UK child support order in the US, the order generally needs to be officially "registered" with the family court or state child support agency in the US state where the paying parent lives or has income/assets.

He could be paying because it's garnished from his pay check, not out of moral responsibility.

Nylonflares · 10/10/2026 03:12

Even if all this he says is true, then I’d still not see him again. Why make life difficult from the start? After the first date you should be a bit giddy, not faced with these doubts and niggles

It also smacks a bit of the old “but I can save the troubled man” stuff. I blame Jane Eyre for a lot of this!

Life is hard enough

Nylonflares · 10/10/2026 03:16

As for legal action, it would need to be considered whether contact after all this time would be in the child’s best interests

And let’s just say that it all goes swimmingly and you marry and have children, how do you tell them they have a half brother their dad has never seen?

Wordsmithery · 10/10/2026 03:21

If you really like him, I'd proceed - cautiously. See whether his words turn into action. He managed to get himself sober and landed a decent job so he must be pretty determined. Let's see that determination translate into a healthy relationship with his child. Anything less - you run.

FoolMeTwice2 · 10/10/2026 03:25

@VelvetPetals11

If I believed that he's telling the truth about letters and re-establishing contact now, I could get past the son situation, as I don't think it's in a child's best interests to have an addict around them, so in that way he may have been doing what he thought was best for his son rather than himself, BUT...

I would never get involved with someone who had an addiction problem. He may be sober now, but he's still an alcoholic, just a dry one atm, and who knows what stress life may lead him to do to cope in later years.

I'd be concerned he takes up drinking again, or replaces it with another addiction, and I wouldn't want to spend my life with that worry in the back of my mind.

movinghomeadvice · 10/10/2026 03:28

I don’t understand why people start threads and just argue with everyone who disagrees with them.

Plenty of people have given you unanimous, excellent advice and you are choosing to ignore it and explain it away.

Good luck to you OP, it seems you’ve already made your decision.

LivingTheDreamish · 10/10/2026 03:30

I think at this point I would take him at face value but try not to get too emotionally invested. They are red flags but people are allowed to have made mistakes. I would be alert to any signs of alcohol abuse and end the relationship over that, but at this point in the relationship his son is not really your business.

If things between you ever got serious, I would be encouraging him to formalize some sort of contact via lawyers, and would want to know he was making financial provision for his son as he claims. I wouldn't have children with a man who had a young son he didn't have contact with/provide for unless it was completely out of his control.

See how it goes OP.

BigFatLiar · 10/10/2026 03:34

From what you say the child has no idea who he us, may even have a father. So the boy seems to be in a settled life with his mum who doesn't want his interference. His worry seems to be should he push for access. Hello Jimmy this is Mike he's your dad. What will this achieve other than disruption for everyone. Will little Jimmy be expected to take holidays in the US with his dad?

I suspect the big question for him is does his desire to see his son warrant blowing up the boys current life? Here on mumsnet the answer is of course yes it is, he's a waste of space for not putting his own wishes first.

If hie story is true I'd have more respect for him if he left the lad to his childhood and then contacted him when he was older and able to make decisions.

Goinggreymammy · 10/10/2026 03:45

No, i wouldn't date that man. I think you are fortunate to have found this out after one date so you can walk away now, without wasting each other's time or getting too intertwined or emotionally involved.

Mommydearest3 · 10/10/2026 03:49

While I believe that people can change, for me the dating pool is not so narrow that I’d be where you are placing yourself right now. You’re seeing a man but have only been on one date? And in this one date he has unloaded his emotional baggage on you - of which there is a LOT.

It smacks of a form of love bombing where if he shares all his demons then you’re busy focussing on feeling flattered that he opened up so deeply, so early on, rather than facing the objective reality that addiction is a lifelong battle for many even if they remain on that wagon AND he has a messy situation with a prior child.

I’d have a deep look at myself and whether I had a saviour complex / a need to rescue men because they had ‘potential’ or if somewhere along the way I’ve lowered the bar for myself. If he’d opened up on later dates after tentatively seeing how your bond formed, that is one thing, instead this has red flags written all over it and no way would I be risking my own involvement.

Like another commenter my partner’s family has experienced a case of addiction and my partner has cut that family member off. He has to watch the chaos it creates for other family members who keep trying to help and can’t bring themselves to do the same. They’ve lost money and been placed in danger multiple times because of this individual’s behaviour. You have an early out of this risk - take it.

RedSheep26 · 10/10/2026 04:12

I wouldn’t date a man who had children with another woman, whatever their relationship with the mother or child. Why would you? There are plenty of men who don’t come with that kind of baggage, and it is baggage. Either they put the child first - so you always come second, and you and any children you might have together have to deal with being part of a blended family. Or, as in this case, they are a dropkick dad, which is awfully unattractive. There are plenty more fish in the sea.

MermaidMummy06 · 10/10/2026 04:15

If he does seek contact, do you want your life dominated by the fight, cost and travel?

Because it's horrendous. My friend took her DC back to her home country. DC are flown here to their father or he visits them. He told us how much it cost - which is staggering - said this was his first time in two years seeing them as he can't afford it (he earns well).

BaobhanSith · 10/10/2026 04:18

Sounds like a deadbeat father no matter what he said. Immediately moving back to the UK so he can have a relationship with his son and not dating in the US would make his actions at least resemble his words.

Don't waste any more time on this one @VelvetPetals11, you could end up with his child while he moves to Australia.

Katflapkit · 10/10/2026 04:22

It's another 'No' from me. All the 'he didn't say she deliberately trapped him whilst he was drunk/blacking out because he doesn't speak badly about people he has loved' is rubbish. HE DID. He implied it. She wanted a baby, didn't think she could get pregnant and pooof she's up the duff even though he wasn't in a place to be Dad. He is snide with no accountability.

I don't believe he is paying child support. If she has made a new life with a new man and erased him from the picture why is she accepting money but stopping contact. Why isn't he sending the cards and gifts? Does he go back to the UK? He must have friends or family there. What hasn't he initiated contact?

To be honest it all sounds a little cheesy. I have set up a fund for him. I write letter and cards for him. I go quiet and misty eyed on first dates when I talk about him. It's like he has made a 'good absent dad list' from Hallmark checklist.

My father was feckless, his new women mattered more than his kids. Yet he told everyone that my mother wouldn't let him see us. A former neighbour of mine, an intelligent and professional woman fell for one of these sob stories where the evil witch ex moved across country to dodge contact. She gave him a load of money to clear maintenance arrears and get a solicitor. Then it came out there was a harrassment court order for him to stay away. And he blew the money she gave him on cocaine binge with his mates which wasn't his fault by the way.

Look it's a first date and he has given you a lot of heavy information. Addiction issues, running away instead of facing up to his responsibilities, a young child he doesn't have contact with ........ It's a lot.

Russetboots · 10/10/2026 04:39

PPAPPINE · 10/10/2026 02:19

Why didn’t he take her to court to get access then ? The number of women who maliciously prevent fathers from seeing their children (and having someone to share the responsibility with) for no reason whatsoever is extremely low. You have one side to this story. I don’t know of any women who have done this. I do know/ know of, lots of men who claim this is the case but in actual fact the mother was protecting her child from an abusive arse hole or they just never bothered to try to see their children.

I agree with this. It is almost certain the court would have granted him some access even if it was supervised access only or regular phonecalls to his son, even if he did have problems.

The truth of the matter is that he didn't bother applying. He would have been sober for a long time to make the difficult move to getting a job and applying to live abroad - he could have used that time to make contact with his child. The ex may have tried to block it to protect her child from a raging drunk, but any solicitor (even in the 30 minutes free consultation they give) would have told him he would have been allowed some supervised contact as a minimum if he chose to apply for it.

OP, he certainly just doesn't care enough about his child to make the effort to see them.

Iocanepowder · 10/10/2026 04:44

My issue is that although it was a good opportunity for him, he still chose to move to a different continent than his son.

I would also not date a recovering alcoholic tbh. I would be concerned about a risk he would relapse at some point.

SmolTiny · 10/10/2026 04:53

No.

Sandynandy · 10/10/2026 05:07

I would not date an addict.

I would be very unlikely to date someone who didn’t see their child.

i would 100% not be interested in someone who was both. check with yourself that you aren’t picturing yourself rescuing some kind of tragic hero - you wouldn’t be, you’d be getting tangled up in a l of ad of mess. You are young!