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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

OP posts:
Acalmerkarma · 12/10/2026 10:31

AmberTigerEyes · 12/10/2026 09:18

I was trying to say that I think that when mothers are away from their children, such as shopping or at work, they still see themselves as actively parenting.

I think it is the same for men who take on parental responsibilities too. As a working mother, I would work overtime just so I could get the DC the drama classes or summer pony camp they wanted. I think fathers must surely do the same? (The good ones).

Edited

Quite possibly! Some of my male friends are just more inclined to see parts of their lives, including parenting as clearly distinct from each other. They are still good, kind men and fathers, but just different from the women that I know in their approach to parenting. It's an acknowledge and praise of the attitude towards being a mother that I have witnessed, but I don't feel it detracts from fathers. It's a different role.

SquirrelMadness · 12/10/2026 10:46

AmberTigerEyes · 12/10/2026 10:30

He moved to the US to get the fresh start before he got sober. Moving is less effort than beating an addiction.

Besides getting sober does take years. I would not classify an alcoholic as sober until their time not drinking anything was at least 2 years.

He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

It is ok you would not want to take the risk and date this man. But OP really likes him and I think proceeding with caution is a good option for her. They are both very young and the one thing people do is they change. Some change for the worse, others for the better.

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Why would it be necessary to move to the US in order to get sober? Why couldn't he recover from his addiction in the UK, if he's so keen to one day contribute to his child's life? Is there something about the US that makes it easier to kick an addiction?

And how do you know he moved before getting sober? It sounds like his move was sponsored by his job, so he was presumably doing quite well at work.

With the facts that we know, it sounds more probable that he was prioritising his career by moving to the US, rather than doing it as part of some attempt to get sober and support his son. According to the OP he's not planning to return to the UK anyway, he's trying to get a green card. Not sure how that will help his child either.

I agree that his child's life may well be better without this man in it. I just think it's a massive stretch to think that he might have moved to the US for the benefit of the child he never sees.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 10:58

SquirrelMadness · 12/10/2026 10:46

Why would it be necessary to move to the US in order to get sober? Why couldn't he recover from his addiction in the UK, if he's so keen to one day contribute to his child's life? Is there something about the US that makes it easier to kick an addiction?

And how do you know he moved before getting sober? It sounds like his move was sponsored by his job, so he was presumably doing quite well at work.

With the facts that we know, it sounds more probable that he was prioritising his career by moving to the US, rather than doing it as part of some attempt to get sober and support his son. According to the OP he's not planning to return to the UK anyway, he's trying to get a green card. Not sure how that will help his child either.

I agree that his child's life may well be better without this man in it. I just think it's a massive stretch to think that he might have moved to the US for the benefit of the child he never sees.

It reads like he needed to just do what was best for him in general first, moving to the US was just a part of that.
He could have stayed and not bothered with his own life while his manipulative ex did everything she could to stop him from seeing his son.
That would surely have done wonders for his mental health and addiction problems and ultimately helped his son.

It sounds like his ex just used him for a baby in the end, it was ok to try and get a child from an addict but not ok for him to see his child once she had him.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 12/10/2026 13:33

One of his hobbies is playing pool?

Maybe it's not the same in US, but in the UK most pool/snooker playing takes place in pubs and bars.. which is maybe not the best place for someone who has sworn off the demon drink to hang out?
Unless its a completely different thing in the US? Or its something to do with swimming pools.

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 13:35

I have no doubt the child and his mother are much better off without him. But the fact he left and is now trying out his head fuck on foreign ladies does not mean the mother is scummy or deatbeat as per our misoynist Male Here!🕺🕺🕺poster.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 13:37

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 13:35

I have no doubt the child and his mother are much better off without him. But the fact he left and is now trying out his head fuck on foreign ladies does not mean the mother is scummy or deatbeat as per our misoynist Male Here!🕺🕺🕺poster.

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He has cleaned himself up without the not very nice sounding ex, coincidence?

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 13:43

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 13:37

He has cleaned himself up without the not very nice sounding ex, coincidence?

He said he got clean. The OP has no way of knowing, she only met him once and he tried to gaslight her.

Sounds like a common or garden abusive male to me.🤷‍♀️

speakball · 12/10/2026 13:51

yo808 what deal breakers do you have? what would put you off a woman on a first date that some might be okay with and think you’re being unfair? what are your no no’s? do you have any? i’m curious if you would believe a woman who tells you that the father of their children isn't a good dad? i assume you’d just believe them immediately because people are magically unable to present anything shitty about themselves in a flattering light when they are getting to know you?

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 15:13

speakball · 12/10/2026 13:51

yo808 what deal breakers do you have? what would put you off a woman on a first date that some might be okay with and think you’re being unfair? what are your no no’s? do you have any? i’m curious if you would believe a woman who tells you that the father of their children isn't a good dad? i assume you’d just believe them immediately because people are magically unable to present anything shitty about themselves in a flattering light when they are getting to know you?

I would just trust my feeling with them.
this guy gave a pretty reasoned and honest explanation of his past, if a woman did that with me I’d be more inclined to trust them

VelvetPetals11 · 12/10/2026 15:57

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 12/10/2026 13:33

One of his hobbies is playing pool?

Maybe it's not the same in US, but in the UK most pool/snooker playing takes place in pubs and bars.. which is maybe not the best place for someone who has sworn off the demon drink to hang out?
Unless its a completely different thing in the US? Or its something to do with swimming pools.

I guess that’s a question for further dates. It’s sorta the same here in the US, he said he has been playing it for years and years so must have a pretty good control on it if he can go 5 years in places like that without ever relapsing🤷‍♀️. Will defo bring that up tho if we go on the 2nd date.

OP posts:
DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 12/10/2026 16:06

I guess if he's been playing it for years and meets his friends through his hobby, its not necessarily a bad thing, if he can handle being out with friends in bars, then he's been doing well not drinking when there. Maybe he's got supportive friends?

slugjelly · 12/10/2026 16:19

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 02:50

I’m a glass half full type of girl. I try to see the good in people lol.

I absolutely bet that is what he likes about you too. Sorry, but this one has bad vibes all over him for me. The cards in a suitcase story is very obviously fake. I bet this is the tip of the iceberg, too.

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 16:19

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 15:13

I would just trust my feeling with them.
this guy gave a pretty reasoned and honest explanation of his past, if a woman did that with me I’d be more inclined to trust them

I agree with you again. @VelvetPetals11 would do well to listen to her feeling. The one that's telling her she being gaslit.

envbeckyc · 12/10/2026 16:34

slugjelly · 12/10/2026 16:19

I absolutely bet that is what he likes about you too. Sorry, but this one has bad vibes all over him for me. The cards in a suitcase story is very obviously fake. I bet this is the tip of the iceberg, too.

I think suggesting that he keeps cars in a suitcase is evidence of manipulation… it’s literally the best known Cliche….

In fiction, film, and television, when a parent has been separated from their child—either through parental alienation, adoption, running away, or tragic loss—there is a standard visual shorthand to convey their unspoken, long-term grief:

The Cliché Broken Down

  1. The Secret Cache: The parent keeps an old suitcase (or sometimes a shoebox or trunk) hidden away in an attic, closet, or under the bed.
  2. The Contents: Inside the suitcase is a chronological collection of unmailed, unsent, or returned birthday cards, holiday cards, and letters written to the child over many years.
  3. The Reveal: When another character finds the suitcase, it instantly communicates that the parent never stopped loving or thinking about their absent child, regardless of how cold or detached they might seem on the outside.

Why It's Used
Passage of Time: It visually demonstrates years of persistent, quiet longing without needing long dialogue or exposition.
The "Cold" Parent Subversion: It is frequently used to humanize a character who initially appears hardened, bitter, or unfeeling. Finding the suitcase reveals their vulnerability and hidden heartbreak.
Unsent Words: The fact that the cards are in a suitcase means the parent either didn't know where to send them, or was forbidden from contacting the child, making the tragedy of the separation even heavier.

This looks like gaslighting or manipulation to be suggesting it!

He could have posted them to his family in the UK to pass onto the child… you certainly wouldn’t fill a suitcase in a country where they would never be seen, or potentially found!

The whole point is to post them to demonstrate regular attempts of contact…without a postal stamp on them… there is no evidence that they were written periodically…

I suspect the guy is making up most of what he has told you… the maintenance, the trust fund and the cards…

FirmSnake · 12/10/2026 16:52

VelvetPetals11 · 12/10/2026 15:57

I guess that’s a question for further dates. It’s sorta the same here in the US, he said he has been playing it for years and years so must have a pretty good control on it if he can go 5 years in places like that without ever relapsing🤷‍♀️. Will defo bring that up tho if we go on the 2nd date.

Its all sounding a bit heavy for a man you've only just met....

outerspacepotato · 12/10/2026 16:56

VelvetPetals11 · 12/10/2026 15:57

I guess that’s a question for further dates. It’s sorta the same here in the US, he said he has been playing it for years and years so must have a pretty good control on it if he can go 5 years in places like that without ever relapsing🤷‍♀️. Will defo bring that up tho if we go on the 2nd date.

Pool halls are bars.

I smell even more bullshit, I hope you have high boots if you see this deadbeat again.

CamillaMcCauley · 12/10/2026 17:37

AmberTigerEyes · 12/10/2026 09:11

Actually, it makes all of us ‘right’. This is more a case of differences so there is no sense going on a full tear down on another poster because their experience is the polar opposite of yours.

I didn’t engage in any tear down of you?

I’ve been speaking with a poster who by his own admission abandoned his parenting responsibilities because it was too hard for him due to health issues and now sits around mansplaining to women who are actually raising kids how easy it is and how badly most people do it.

I went through two years of joint pain from autoimmune arthritis that meant I could barely get out of bed some days but I still managed to work and be the main parent through that time, so forgive me if I don’t have much patience with his sorry-for-himself moaning.

Doone22 · 12/10/2026 17:40

Hes paying child maintenance ffs!
And trying to keep all sorts of things for when/if they ever get to meet like cash and cards. He clearly thinks of him all the time and its also natural to want to not rock the boat.

He sounds like he's turned his life around so why would you not give him a chance? Have you never made a mistake? Are you perfect?

QuietHarbour · 12/10/2026 17:42

No, I wouldn't keep seeing a man like this. He has dumped a load of emotional baggage on the first date, encouraged you to see his ex-partner as the villain of the piece, and said things that simply don't add up. How can he state in one breath that he wants to have a relationship with his son and in the next that he wants to live permanently in a different continent?! If nothing else, this is a pretty joyless way to start a new relationship.

CamillaMcCauley · 12/10/2026 17:47

Doone22 · 12/10/2026 17:40

Hes paying child maintenance ffs!
And trying to keep all sorts of things for when/if they ever get to meet like cash and cards. He clearly thinks of him all the time and its also natural to want to not rock the boat.

He sounds like he's turned his life around so why would you not give him a chance? Have you never made a mistake? Are you perfect?

You don’t need to be perfect to have limits to what you want in a new partner. What a weird thing to berate someone for.

Have you by chance been rejected based on your own background? You seem super-triggered by people having no obligation to continue past a first date with someone showing red, or at the very least orange flags.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 18:06

CamillaMcCauley · 12/10/2026 17:37

I didn’t engage in any tear down of you?

I’ve been speaking with a poster who by his own admission abandoned his parenting responsibilities because it was too hard for him due to health issues and now sits around mansplaining to women who are actually raising kids how easy it is and how badly most people do it.

I went through two years of joint pain from autoimmune arthritis that meant I could barely get out of bed some days but I still managed to work and be the main parent through that time, so forgive me if I don’t have much patience with his sorry-for-himself moaning.

My intention was to say that this guy shouldn’t be automatically written off, that’s quite different than me giving advice on how to raise children.
Autoimmune arthritis while it can be debilitating is usually managed very well with the right medication, did you take methotrexate?
My dad couldn’t get out of bed until he started taking it and he returned to normal after being on them for a while.
Eqauting your own problems with someone else’s which are quite different and about which you know nothing really reflects the sentiments in this thread very well.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 18:09

CamillaMcCauley · 12/10/2026 17:47

You don’t need to be perfect to have limits to what you want in a new partner. What a weird thing to berate someone for.

Have you by chance been rejected based on your own background? You seem super-triggered by people having no obligation to continue past a first date with someone showing red, or at the very least orange flags.

Why attack someone like this?
I could assume some posters here have been rejected or hurt by someone who has a vague similarity with this guy.
Or some are just jealous, maybe they have alcoholic boyfriends or husbands?

CamillaMcCauley · 12/10/2026 18:14

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 18:06

My intention was to say that this guy shouldn’t be automatically written off, that’s quite different than me giving advice on how to raise children.
Autoimmune arthritis while it can be debilitating is usually managed very well with the right medication, did you take methotrexate?
My dad couldn’t get out of bed until he started taking it and he returned to normal after being on them for a while.
Eqauting your own problems with someone else’s which are quite different and about which you know nothing really reflects the sentiments in this thread very well.

Piss off, I’m not interested in another lecture from you about how my life is actually super-easy compared to yours or the dude who left his kid in another country.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 18:16

CamillaMcCauley · 12/10/2026 18:14

Piss off, I’m not interested in another lecture from you about how my life is actually super-easy compared to yours or the dude who left his kid in another country.

‘Left his kid’ The kid he was quite possibly set up in to having by an equally unstable partner and then blocked from seeing?
Again what was he supposed to do? Stay in his rut and get messed around by her or go and improve his life??
I never said your life was super easy

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 18:33

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 13:43

He said he got clean. The OP has no way of knowing, she only met him once and he tried to gaslight her.

Sounds like a common or garden abusive male to me.🤷‍♀️

I bet if the OPs date was a woman your response would be somewhere between
‘She’s had her issues but obviously worked really hard to overcome them, I’d definitely give her a chance’ to
‘ well she did leave but it sounded like she had no choice, she’s been honest, I’m not sure I’d date her but it might be worth seeing if she’s genuine in what she says but be careful’
Gaslit is your new vile