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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

OP posts:
SquirrelMadness · 11/10/2026 22:44

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 22:40

Your deflections are getting weirder and weirder. Again, I don’t just take a day off whenever my kids are sick, usually I juggle working from home and caring for them, starting early and finishing after they are in bed (unless they have to go to an appointment that takes half a day or more and then I take leave).

And your claim about inability to get anything done in a lunch break is grounded in… what? I work in the city, there are shops nearby to run to to get things they need, I can make phone calls, fill out forms online, etc.

Honestly, what is your goal here? To somehow “prove” parenting isn’t much effort or that I have such a special level of privilege in life that it’s easy for me to be a single mum? I guess you have to tell yourself that to justify not bothering with your own kid.

I suspect his aim is simply to troll, and to get everyone all riled up.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 22:51

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 22:11

I think the across oceans comments are beside the point, sounds like was more needing to start fresh rather than trying to get as far away from his son as he could?
If he hasn’t drank for 5 years, that’s not really ‘not at the minute’ is it. At that point he’s more likely to stay sober for a long time or never go back to drinking IF he hasn’t had that drink.
How many throwing mud at him drink too much? And did he really badmouth her, I thought he said he didn’t

If that's the case, he's what's known as a "dry drunk". He's manipulating the OP by trauma dumping and gaslighting her even if he's not drinking. And let's face it, how would she know? She only met him once.🤷‍♀️

My across an ocean comment is not beside the point. Don't be silly @Yo808🙄 if you choose to move an ocean away, its going to negatively impact even adult relationships, nevermind that of a parent infant child.

Did he really badmouth her?

Yes. Of course he did. That's why you've called her scummy and deadbeat mother, despite the fact she is the child's only present parent, raising him on her own. Despite the fact he left his child 6 years ago and has done nothing to be in his life ever since.

I thought he said he didn't
He was lying.🤷‍♀️

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 23:07

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 22:40

Your deflections are getting weirder and weirder. Again, I don’t just take a day off whenever my kids are sick, usually I juggle working from home and caring for them, starting early and finishing after they are in bed (unless they have to go to an appointment that takes half a day or more and then I take leave).

And your claim about inability to get anything done in a lunch break is grounded in… what? I work in the city, there are shops nearby to run to to get things they need, I can make phone calls, fill out forms online, etc.

Honestly, what is your goal here? To somehow “prove” parenting isn’t much effort or that I have such a special level of privilege in life that it’s easy for me to be a single mum? I guess you have to tell yourself that to justify not bothering with your own kid.

No you made it sound like you get up before you go to bed when really you work hard but have it quite a lot easier than many in a lot of respects.

Its grounded in the reality that most do not work ‘in the city’ and do not physically have time to do anything in their lunch break than..eat their lunch. If they get a break.

Was it your choice to be a single mum? I don’t know. Ops date didn’t want children. His dodgy sounding ex did.

AmberTigerEyes · 11/10/2026 23:08

@CamillaMcCauley
parenting is not easier than a demanding job.

I think parenting was a lot easier than my demanding job based on my own experience as a mother with a FT job. Great that your job was easier than parenting, that is your experience but it is not universal nor does having the opposite experience from you mean anyone thinks parenting takes very little effort.

We all have our different lived experiences.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 23:15

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 22:51

If that's the case, he's what's known as a "dry drunk". He's manipulating the OP by trauma dumping and gaslighting her even if he's not drinking. And let's face it, how would she know? She only met him once.🤷‍♀️

My across an ocean comment is not beside the point. Don't be silly @Yo808🙄 if you choose to move an ocean away, its going to negatively impact even adult relationships, nevermind that of a parent infant child.

Did he really badmouth her?

Yes. Of course he did. That's why you've called her scummy and deadbeat mother, despite the fact she is the child's only present parent, raising him on her own. Despite the fact he left his child 6 years ago and has done nothing to be in his life ever since.

I thought he said he didn't
He was lying.🤷‍♀️

Your last point first, that was her choice blocking him from seeing him…you make it sound like she’s a saint. I don’t know why.

A ‘dry drunk’ maybe, doing a lot better than most drinkers though. Half this forum will drink or have partners who drink, a lot of them to excess.
If he’s paying child support as well he’s not that bad really is he?

Sounds like he needed to get away from those certain relationships mostly if the ex was that bad, whether or not he’s telling the truth you or I don’t know.

MissConductUS · 11/10/2026 23:22

If that's the case, he's what's known as a "dry drunk". He's manipulating the OP by trauma dumping and gaslighting her even if he's not drinking. And let's face it, how would she know? She only met him once.

We know nothing about how he got sober or what support he's had, so it's a bit much to assume that he hasn't learned anything in five years. And if he really wanted to gaslight OP, he wouldn't have mentioned his alcoholism at all. When I met my DH, I was upfront about being in recovery because I thought it was important for him to have that information before deciding if he wanted to be in a relationship with me, and I was regularly attending AA meetings. That doesn't mean that I was "trauma dumping" him.

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 23:26

AmberTigerEyes · 11/10/2026 23:08

@CamillaMcCauley
parenting is not easier than a demanding job.

I think parenting was a lot easier than my demanding job based on my own experience as a mother with a FT job. Great that your job was easier than parenting, that is your experience but it is not universal nor does having the opposite experience from you mean anyone thinks parenting takes very little effort.

We all have our different lived experiences.

Yo808 claimed parenting is much easier than working (not that he would know) and I was responding to him. You may have a different experience, and that’s great. That doesn’t make him right either.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 23:34

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 23:15

Your last point first, that was her choice blocking him from seeing him…you make it sound like she’s a saint. I don’t know why.

A ‘dry drunk’ maybe, doing a lot better than most drinkers though. Half this forum will drink or have partners who drink, a lot of them to excess.
If he’s paying child support as well he’s not that bad really is he?

Sounds like he needed to get away from those certain relationships mostly if the ex was that bad, whether or not he’s telling the truth you or I don’t know.

A saint? What are you on?

I've merely pointed out that she's is the only parent taking care of his child and he said he was an a mentally unwell alcoholic partner to her at her and his child's most vulnerable time.🤷‍♀️

And that he moved a continent away from his child and has not even attempted to establish a relationship with him since 2020. Six years ago.

We don't know that she's a shit mum.

We do know he's a shit dad.

He has zero presence in his child's life.

He has never been present in his child's life.
He moved thousands of miles away.

He hasn't been bothered to fix it up to now.
And he's still not bothered enough to be doing anything about it.

Despite his new life and sobriety, he hasn't done anything.

Apart from gaslight @VelvetPetals11 on their first date.

Hell, he's even managed to take you in @Yo808 and you've never met him.🤣🤣🤣

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You're oozing misogyny again.🤢
With a side of ignorance.🙈

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 23:45

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 23:34

A saint? What are you on?

I've merely pointed out that she's is the only parent taking care of his child and he said he was an a mentally unwell alcoholic partner to her at her and his child's most vulnerable time.🤷‍♀️

And that he moved a continent away from his child and has not even attempted to establish a relationship with him since 2020. Six years ago.

We don't know that she's a shit mum.

We do know he's a shit dad.

He has zero presence in his child's life.

He has never been present in his child's life.
He moved thousands of miles away.

He hasn't been bothered to fix it up to now.
And he's still not bothered enough to be doing anything about it.

Despite his new life and sobriety, he hasn't done anything.

Apart from gaslight @VelvetPetals11 on their first date.

Hell, he's even managed to take you in @Yo808 and you've never met him.🤣🤣🤣

As others have said, has he not done the correct thing by moving away then? he’d have been a worse father if he stayed wouldn’t he? And it seems he’s improved himself where he could now be a presence in his son’s life.

The mother won’t let him though, was desperate to get pregnant with an alcoholic and then blocked him from their son’s life.
we don’t know she’s a shit mum? Please.

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 23:47

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 23:07

No you made it sound like you get up before you go to bed when really you work hard but have it quite a lot easier than many in a lot of respects.

Its grounded in the reality that most do not work ‘in the city’ and do not physically have time to do anything in their lunch break than..eat their lunch. If they get a break.

Was it your choice to be a single mum? I don’t know. Ops date didn’t want children. His dodgy sounding ex did.

lol, resorting to exaggeration to dismiss what I actually said again, I see.

Did I choose to be a single mum? I suppose so, if
you class leaving an emotionally and financially abusive relationship as choosing to be a single mum. Certainly life is easier now than it was then, which is not the “gotcha” that I expect you will claim it as.

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 23:52

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 23:47

lol, resorting to exaggeration to dismiss what I actually said again, I see.

Did I choose to be a single mum? I suppose so, if
you class leaving an emotionally and financially abusive relationship as choosing to be a single mum. Certainly life is easier now than it was then, which is not the “gotcha” that I expect you will claim it as.

I don’t want to say ‘gotcha’ I’m hardly in a position to being saying anything like that.
What we’re saying here is that nobody’s perfect and I’m saying OPs date hardly seems the monster he’s been made out to be

Jackospice · 11/10/2026 23:54

He hasn’t ’turned His life around’ though has he. He’s sober yes, but he hasn’t fixed the other things and he’s still blaming the woman who picked up the slack on parenting for him. He could’ve got in touch with that child when they were 1 or 2 or even 3. When he’d still had loads of time to work on his recovery but the child was still young enough that it wouldn’t be massively unsettling to walk into their life. He could’ve stayed in the same country as the child, or moved back there and he could’ve really worked on building a relationship with that child. I would consider that an essential part of turning his life around. Instead it’s 5 years on and he’s ’looking Into’ getting legal advice to look into maybe getting some access. But has all the time in the world for reading and the gym. it will be very unsettling now for a 6/7 year old, and they’re in different countries and contact will be hard if he even does anything. Op can you imagine having a child in the world that you don’t see, and you’re not doing everything in your power to see them?

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 23:55

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 23:43

You're oozing misogyny again.🤢
With a side of ignorance.🙈

I’d say your last post had some highlights of ignorance.
I may be ignorant but I’m not a misogynist.
Far from it.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 23:56

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 23:45

As others have said, has he not done the correct thing by moving away then? he’d have been a worse father if he stayed wouldn’t he? And it seems he’s improved himself where he could now be a presence in his son’s life.

The mother won’t let him though, was desperate to get pregnant with an alcoholic and then blocked him from their son’s life.
we don’t know she’s a shit mum? Please.

How would he have been a worse father if he stayed? What do you think he would have done?😱

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 23:57

Yo808 · 11/10/2026 23:52

I don’t want to say ‘gotcha’ I’m hardly in a position to being saying anything like that.
What we’re saying here is that nobody’s perfect and I’m saying OPs date hardly seems the monster he’s been made out to be

Ever since you entered this thread it’s been one long series of you attempting “gotchas” while sticking up for absentee dads as the unsung heroes of their children’s lives… and a side of single-mum beneficiary bashing.

”Nobody’s perfect” is a classic way of deflecting accountability; heard that one a lot from my ex.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 00:03

CamillaMcCauley · 11/10/2026 23:57

Ever since you entered this thread it’s been one long series of you attempting “gotchas” while sticking up for absentee dads as the unsung heroes of their children’s lives… and a side of single-mum beneficiary bashing.

”Nobody’s perfect” is a classic way of deflecting accountability; heard that one a lot from my ex.

Edited

Single mum beneficiary bashing has its place along with absentee father bashing. Not everyone did it like you.
The whole thread pretty much was criticising the guy undeservedly.
With a good helping of toxic trapper-blocker mum loving.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 00:06

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/10/2026 23:56

How would he have been a worse father if he stayed? What do you think he would have done?😱

Honestly who knows? Arguing with his mother while drunk? Violence between them? Better to have a calm household.
Before my dad left all I can remember was them screaming at each other. Not good for children to have that environment. In fact very selfish of the parents to stay together when that’s what the kid is growing up around.
People do it all the time though cos it’s easier.
Heroes

Florence19 · 12/10/2026 00:16

There’s more green flags than red. The fact that he’s been up front, honest & open to the circumstances, the fact that he doesn’t bad mouth or put blame on previous partner, speaks volumes as he’s opening his own explanations to the situation and as they say “you can tell a lot about a person, not by what they say about themselves, but what they say about others”, the fact that he pays maintenance, savings account & keeping letters & cards, also speaks volumes. Bearing in mind he’s respecting the mums wishes & he lives in a different country!!
I know of many women using men as sperm donors!!

It’s still early days & time will tell if he walks the talk. Getting to know each other should be fun & taken slowly to build upon safe boundaries with safe honest & open communication. Which on the 1st date he bravely stepped up.

This wouldn’t be a deal breaker or red flag for me personally. Maybe something to be mindful but not a deal breaker! We all have a past & bad choices don’t make us bad people 🫶🏼

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 00:24

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 00:06

Honestly who knows? Arguing with his mother while drunk? Violence between them? Better to have a calm household.
Before my dad left all I can remember was them screaming at each other. Not good for children to have that environment. In fact very selfish of the parents to stay together when that’s what the kid is growing up around.
People do it all the time though cos it’s easier.
Heroes

I have no doubt this man engaged in everything you've said. So I can see why the mother of his child may have been forced to stop contact. For her and her baby.Sad

However he could have got help at home, healed, grew and been around to prove himself and regain his place in his child's life.
He didn't.

He could have sorted himself out, moved to a new country, built a new life and then established contact.
He didn't.

Do you not think its weird that you feared escalating violence for this man's Ex and their child had he stayed?

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 00:30

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 00:24

I have no doubt this man engaged in everything you've said. So I can see why the mother of his child may have been forced to stop contact. For her and her baby.Sad

However he could have got help at home, healed, grew and been around to prove himself and regain his place in his child's life.
He didn't.

He could have sorted himself out, moved to a new country, built a new life and then established contact.
He didn't.

Do you not think its weird that you feared escalating violence for this man's Ex and their child had he stayed?

Edited

Why do you have no doubt ?
why would that be weird? Maybe things were just so bad between them that he felt he needed to go? Sounds like he tried to contact his son and mother told him to stay away so that’s what he did..not forgetting that he didn’t actually even want to have a child but the mother was desperate for one.

You’re defending her who hardly sounds like a great person far too much.

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 00:38

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 00:30

Why do you have no doubt ?
why would that be weird? Maybe things were just so bad between them that he felt he needed to go? Sounds like he tried to contact his son and mother told him to stay away so that’s what he did..not forgetting that he didn’t actually even want to have a child but the mother was desperate for one.

You’re defending her who hardly sounds like a great person far too much.

Because i know that any relationship with an addict is an abusive one.
I know that addictions + MH illness means volatility, aggression and violence. You yourself said it.
I know that domestic abuse against women increases when they are pregnant, have just given birth or are ending the relationship. The poor Ex in the OP's case had all three alongside a mentally ill alcoholic partner.

I know this child is being fed clothed housed etc by his mother.

I know his father is spinning sad yarns and gaslighting women an ocean away.

CamillaMcCauley · 12/10/2026 00:45

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 00:30

Why do you have no doubt ?
why would that be weird? Maybe things were just so bad between them that he felt he needed to go? Sounds like he tried to contact his son and mother told him to stay away so that’s what he did..not forgetting that he didn’t actually even want to have a child but the mother was desperate for one.

You’re defending her who hardly sounds like a great person far too much.

“Desperate” is the interpretation you’ve put on. She often said she wanted kids, which is totally normal and not “desperate”. She also expressed doubts about whether she could get pregnant. Again, not at all uncommon. You’ve put one and one together and called it entrapment despite the fact that OP’s date was a grown adult and could have used contraception if he was so worried about getting her pregnant, knowing full well that she’d want to keep the baby.

If a man doesn’t want kids then it’s his responsibility to take steps to ensure he doesn’t have them. Blaming a woman who was super-clear that she did want them is wild.

Yo808 · 12/10/2026 00:48

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/10/2026 00:38

Because i know that any relationship with an addict is an abusive one.
I know that addictions + MH illness means volatility, aggression and violence. You yourself said it.
I know that domestic abuse against women increases when they are pregnant, have just given birth or are ending the relationship. The poor Ex in the OP's case had all three alongside a mentally ill alcoholic partner.

I know this child is being fed clothed housed etc by his mother.

I know his father is spinning sad yarns and gaslighting women an ocean away.

It’s amazing how presumably just because you’re a woman you jump to the conclusion that he was violent and abusive already and he was at blame for everything .
also the fact that you completely ignore his exes behaviour as showing signs of mental illness and defend her is amazing.
It might even be that both he and his ex are total scum and the stepdad is the only one taking really care of the son.