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Partner says he would not marry me because of my son

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Coffeeandtv86 · Yesterday 11:40

I just need to get something off my chest really and am interested in other people's views.

Myself and my DP have been together just over a year. We have a really good relationship and see eachother a lot.
We live separately at the moment but he stays with myself and Ds frequently.

Now, from the start he was honest and said he never wanted children. I am ok with this. I have a 9 year old Ds with autism and I haven't even considered anymore children.
We agreed to take things slow at first, I wanted to see how our relationship went before introducing him to Ds so we waited 6 months, just so we knew where we were at with our relationship. Also, this is my first relationship since splitting with Ds' father.

My Ds and Dp get on great and there's been a lot of talk of us moving in together.
Then yesterday Dp brought up our future and said he couldn't marry me cos he didn't want to be legally tied to my DS.

My Ds has a father and I am not expecting anything from him in that regard. He doesn't even have to be a step dad if he doesn't want to. But he said that if we marry and divorce, because of my Ds additional needs he could be financially responsible for child maintenance .

I have never heard of this before and even if this was the case, and I wouldn't go down that route anyway.

I appreciate his honesty, but it hurts a little.
I did want to marry one day and now it feels like he can't trust me to do the right thing if things go wrong.

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DurinsBane · Yesterday 18:55

DurinsBane · Yesterday 18:53

I believe if a man (or a woman) brings up a child as their own for years and the biological dad/mum (not the one they live with, the other one) isn’t in the picture, then that person could be held liable financially for the child if they divorced. But I don’t think being ND or disabled etc makes a difference! But if someone did bring a child that wasn’t biologically theirs up as their own child for years, I would hope they would still continue to provide for that child upon divorce, like they would for a biological child

https://www.weightmans.com/insights/step-parents-and-the-breakdown-of-a-family/#alternatives-to-an-application-to-court

Step-parents and the breakdown of a family

This article is intended to provide a useful guide to step-parents in respect of their rights and responsibilities, regarding their step children.

https://www.weightmans.com/insights/step-parents-and-the-breakdown-of-a-family/

FloydPink · Yesterday 19:01

PuppyMonkey · Yesterday 16:49

So when he told you from the start he didn’t want children and you said you had a child, how on earth did the relationship get any further than that? Hmm

Because there is a difference between not wanting kids and being with someone who has kids.

When I was dating (I was 50) I had two teens. I put I have kids and dont want any - that means I am not looking to make more, but obviously happy to date people that have them

FloydPink · Yesterday 19:05

OneLemonLion · Yesterday 18:17

I know it’s easy for me to say as I’m still with DCs father but if I was ever single I just cannot imagine living with let alone marrying someone who didn’t want to be DCs stepfather not to replace their father obviously but to build their own familial relationship. I know life is hard and you deserve love but I feel sad for your son in this.

There is a big difference between being a step-father and doing some of those things and being financially responsible - not least if it goes wrong years down the line.

Unless I missed something the OP said they get on, they quite probably play together, he may pick him up from school etc or look after him if she needs to pop out.I didnt get the impression the kid was 'banished'.

But this is totally different to in 5 years time, getting divorced and getting a 30% settlement because your ex wife and her child (not yours) have greater needs.

AgentJohnson · Yesterday 19:09

Is he afraid of being financially responsible for a SN child or any child and if so, why tbe hell is he in a relationship with a woman who has a child? I would ask him to share his ‘sources’ with you but be grateful that you know what thinks.

There really is no coming back from this. Lick your wounds and throw this one back.

babyproblems · Yesterday 19:20

He’s a wanker and there’s better out there.
He’s using your son as an excuse.. imo men do what they want. If they don’t do it off their own back, it’s because they don’t really want to do it. I’ve seen men chase and I mean chase what they want - if they’re not actively trying to get something / somewhere, it’s because they don’t want to.
Xx

ZeroMotivationWithTeens · Yesterday 19:33

What is there to be gained by marriage? Are you financial equals?

MumoftwoGirls11 · Yesterday 19:40

Tell him you won the lottery or came into a nice inheritance and see if his stance on marriage changes. You’ll have your answer then.

Zapx · Yesterday 19:55

I think he’s correct. Comes down to “child of the family”. The legislation specifically tells the court to consider the child's physical or mental disability when deciding financial provision.

Zapx · Yesterday 19:59

DurinsBane · Yesterday 18:53

I believe if a man (or a woman) brings up a child as their own for years and the biological dad/mum (not the one they live with, the other one) isn’t in the picture, then that person could be held liable financially for the child if they divorced. But I don’t think being ND or disabled etc makes a difference! But if someone did bring a child that wasn’t biologically theirs up as their own child for years, I would hope they would still continue to provide for that child upon divorce, like they would for a biological child

I think it’s section 25 (3) and 25 (4) of Matrimonial Causes Act 1973

PrettyPickle · Yesterday 20:15

@Coffeeandtv86 I'm struggling with what you are saying from many perspectives here.

His “child maintenance if we divorce” claim is nonsense and you know it. In the UK, a partner does not become financially responsible for a stepchild after divorce unless they have legally adopted the child or taken on a formal parental role. He knows this, or at least he should, it’s not an obscure rule.

So when someone reaches for a far‑fetched legal scenario to justify a boundary, it usually means they don’t want to tell the truth, they’re trying to soften the blow, they’re trying to make you feel responsible for their discomfort (“I’m protecting myself from what you might do”). It’s a distancing tactic.

He’s telling you he doesn’t trust you! His reasoning boils down to “If we split up, you might come after me for money.” That’s not about your son. That’s about his lack of trust in you. And that’s a very big thing to admit, or rather, to project onto you after a year together.

He’s also telling you he doesn’t see this as a lifelong relationship If he truly saw you as his future, he wouldn’t be gaming out divorce scenarios. People who want a long‑term future tend to say things like “Let’s see how things go”, “I’m not ready for marriage yet”, “I want to build our life first.” They don’t say “I won’t marry you because of your child.” That’s a hard boundary, not a timing issue.

And when a man says he doesn’t want children and won’t marry because of her existing child, he’s essentially saying “I want a relationship with you, but not the full life that comes with you.” That’s not a long‑term partner. That’s someone who wants the parts of the relationship that suit him. And you and your son deserve better, imagine how your son will feel when he grows up and realises you are not remarried as the guy thought you were good enough to warm his bed but not marry because he didn't want kids and you have one, him! Sorry I have to ask why he is with you, think about it?

He’s comfortable living with you odd nights (for now) but not committing to you. Its a contradiction. He’s happy to stay over frequently, integrate into your home when it suits him, enjoy the benefits of family life but he’s not willing to formalise the relationship, take on any symbolic responsibility, make long‑term plans that include her son. And he is telling you this from the beginning. That’s not confusion. That’s convenience.

The healthiest interpretation of his actions are that he likes you, he may like your son, he enjoys the relationship. But he is already telling you that he does not see you as his future wife. Why undersell yourself? You have a kid, you might want to gamble with your own affections but you can't with the kid! And lets be honest, he is already thinking about protecting himself from a breakup. That doesn’t make him evil. But it does make him clear, even if he’s using a flimsy excuse.

He’s told you the truth, just not in the words you expected. He doesn’t want marriage, and he’s using your son as the reason because it feels safer than saying ‘I don’t see marriage in my future.’ Believe him. You’re not wrong to feel hurt, he’s essentially saying he doesn’t trust you and doesn’t see this as a lifelong commitment. You now need to decide whether a relationship with no future marriage is something you’re genuinely happy with.

And if you want FWB that is fine, but don't confuse your son and let him think that being used in this manner is normal.

AmnesiacsDream · Yesterday 20:27

Your DP isn't wrong, though orders for child maintenance against step parents are very rare. But a divorce settlement would take your DC's needs into account so he'd likely end up financially disadvantaged compared to if you had no children. In divorce, the needs of any children are supposed to be the first consideration in distribution of assets, even if the marriage is short. Financially, I can completely see why someone might not want to marry someone who has children from a different relationship, especially children with significant needs.

With the government's proposals for changes to the law for separating couples who live together but are not married, he should probably be reluctant to move in with you too.

DaftBerkCanGoFHimself · Yesterday 20:33

He wouldn’t be financially responsible for your DS. But I don’t like his attitude.

However, why get married? You know what divorce is like. it’s expensive and stressful. Id be very careful about entangling your finances with a man so defensive of his. I’m mid divorce and feel like I had a parasite who is still sucking me dry even in divorce. So I’m probably biased!

Toober · Yesterday 20:35

I don't think this is about step-parenting or the fact that you have a child at ALL. Men who are happy in a relationship as it is can come up with a million excuses to not move things forward. I think that's what's happening here.

If you, too, are happy with how things are - fill your boots. He knows and gets along with your son. If you want or need more, end it because he just doesn't.

Slugtamer · Yesterday 20:36

This is just totally inaccurate and if you did get married thier are ways of protecting your assets legally. He would have no parental responsibility and this wouldn’t change if you got married. He dosen’t sound nice or even logical.

PhaedraTwo · Yesterday 20:45

Coffeeandtv86 · Yesterday 11:49

Myself and my Ds' father both agreed that 6 months was a good time period before meeting him. And vice versa if my ex was to start a relationship.

Agree all you like. It's still a very short period.

littlemisspigg · Yesterday 21:25

Coffeeandtv86 · Yesterday 11:40

I just need to get something off my chest really and am interested in other people's views.

Myself and my DP have been together just over a year. We have a really good relationship and see eachother a lot.
We live separately at the moment but he stays with myself and Ds frequently.

Now, from the start he was honest and said he never wanted children. I am ok with this. I have a 9 year old Ds with autism and I haven't even considered anymore children.
We agreed to take things slow at first, I wanted to see how our relationship went before introducing him to Ds so we waited 6 months, just so we knew where we were at with our relationship. Also, this is my first relationship since splitting with Ds' father.

My Ds and Dp get on great and there's been a lot of talk of us moving in together.
Then yesterday Dp brought up our future and said he couldn't marry me cos he didn't want to be legally tied to my DS.

My Ds has a father and I am not expecting anything from him in that regard. He doesn't even have to be a step dad if he doesn't want to. But he said that if we marry and divorce, because of my Ds additional needs he could be financially responsible for child maintenance .

I have never heard of this before and even if this was the case, and I wouldn't go down that route anyway.

I appreciate his honesty, but it hurts a little.
I did want to marry one day and now it feels like he can't trust me to do the right thing if things go wrong.

Great.
Tell him you can't marry him for thinking something like this.
Goodbye.

DroopyEyelids · Yesterday 21:42

unless he’s an idiot, he knows that is nonsense. He’s letting know you know in his own way that he doesn’t ever see himself committing to you with marriage and he is seeing what you do with that information. He is putting up with your kid to spend time with you. He’s not interested in a relationship with your son. Do you want to continue a relationship with this man? It’s not going to get much better than what it is is now. Ever. Be clear with him if you think differently and be prepared that things will likely end soon xx

BooneyBeautiful · Yesterday 21:44

It is possible for a court to decide a step parent should pay child maintenance in the event of a divorce, but it has to be a court that decides and not CMS. I have Googled it, plus it actually happened to my friend's brother. He ended up paying for the child until they were 18.

MrsJeanLuc · Yesterday 21:45

WhatHappenedToYourFurnitureCuz · Yesterday 14:36

He's been staying over since May. We will have to agree to disagree that that's a responsible or wise choice.

Rubbish, we don't have to agree anything of the sort!

@Coffeeandtv86 you've done nothing wrong. You're on the same page as your ex (which is a huge bonus), and your son gets on with your DP.
There's always a significant minority on mumsnet that want to critique the op's life choices even when it's not really relevant to the question asked - just ignore them.

Blondeshavemorefun · Yesterday 22:23

Coffeeandtv86 · Yesterday 12:12

Thank you. I know people have different ways of doing this, but this is the decision myself and my Ds' father came to.

Same. Friends have said this and same for me if/when I met someone

6mths is a good ballpark as you hope to think will be in your life for a while and not a one date wonder

and if going to have a life together then need to meet any children

doesn’t mean you will have every moment with them - just that you have met

but also don’t want getting too used to someone before this incase doesn’t work out or that they meet after 1 or 2yrs and can’t stand each other

so 6mths is fine

you actual post tho. Never heard of this. Ask him to show you where he has read /seen this

bet he can’t

sound alike he may have cold feet. Is your son easy going to high needs autism

StarDolphins · Yesterday 22:39

Gosh 6 months and intros, that is not taking it slow! I asked my ex to wait at least 12 months and it would be 2 years if I met someone before I would even think about intros. I know everyone is different but I don’t think rushing is good for children.

But he won’t have any financial ties to your son should you split. Like you said, DS has his father.

Laurmolonlabe · Yesterday 22:43

This can happen my parents divorced, my mother had a child with another man 4 years older than me, my Dad never adopted him , but still finished up paying maintenance for him- he is still bitter 50 years later.

Icecreamdelight · Yesterday 23:03

It’s not surprising that a man who doesn’t want children of his own wouldn’t want to marry a woman with a child, particularly one with special needs. I’m surprised your relationship has lasted a year TBH

Nicewoman · Yesterday 23:06

Coffeeandtv86 · Yesterday 11:40

I just need to get something off my chest really and am interested in other people's views.

Myself and my DP have been together just over a year. We have a really good relationship and see eachother a lot.
We live separately at the moment but he stays with myself and Ds frequently.

Now, from the start he was honest and said he never wanted children. I am ok with this. I have a 9 year old Ds with autism and I haven't even considered anymore children.
We agreed to take things slow at first, I wanted to see how our relationship went before introducing him to Ds so we waited 6 months, just so we knew where we were at with our relationship. Also, this is my first relationship since splitting with Ds' father.

My Ds and Dp get on great and there's been a lot of talk of us moving in together.
Then yesterday Dp brought up our future and said he couldn't marry me cos he didn't want to be legally tied to my DS.

My Ds has a father and I am not expecting anything from him in that regard. He doesn't even have to be a step dad if he doesn't want to. But he said that if we marry and divorce, because of my Ds additional needs he could be financially responsible for child maintenance .

I have never heard of this before and even if this was the case, and I wouldn't go down that route anyway.

I appreciate his honesty, but it hurts a little.
I did want to marry one day and now it feels like he can't trust me to do the right thing if things go wrong.

He’s been honest and told you he doesn’t want to marry you.

it has been held that non-bio dads end up paying for kids that aren’t his, before all the posters start telling you it’s unheard of.

if you marry him and you split up, you will be getting half his house, which ultimately benefits your son.

He’s been honest and frank with you. He’s mentioned non-negotiables like kids.

stop wasting your time on this fella, and next time wait a long time before you introduce your son to a new prospective father figure. there are plenty of men who accept women who already have kids and kids with special needs.

WhatHappenedToYourFurnitureCuz · Yesterday 23:06

MrsJeanLuc · Yesterday 21:45

Rubbish, we don't have to agree anything of the sort!

@Coffeeandtv86 you've done nothing wrong. You're on the same page as your ex (which is a huge bonus), and your son gets on with your DP.
There's always a significant minority on mumsnet that want to critique the op's life choices even when it's not really relevant to the question asked - just ignore them.

There's a significant minority on Mumsnet who put men before their children.

And, apparently, a minority who don't understand the phrase "agree to disagree."