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Husband telling me to tell my friend to shut up on Christmas Day?

226 replies

samanthaoritz · 17/08/2026 20:58

Currently living in Spain with my Spanish husband. Been here two years but increasingly feels isolating and I feel homesick. I wanted to get an honest view on a situation that happened. Is it that bad?

My friend came over to Spain to spend Christmas with me because I was feeling lonely, which I was really grateful for. On Christmas morning she got up around 8:30/9am and was excitedly FaceTiming her family and nephew. She was admittedly quite loud.

My husband had worked Christmas Eve and wanted a lie-in, so he started texting me telling me to make her be quiet. I felt embarrassed and didn't want to dampen her excitement because it was Christmas morning.
I was sitting outside having a coffee when my husband stormed downstairs, came into the garden and said, “Tell that bitch to shut up,” before going back upstairs.

I was absolutely mortified. I ended up hiding in the bathroom crying, and I remember very clearly thinking, “My friend gets to leave and escape this, but I'm stuck here with this person.”
Christmas is my favourite time of year and something I look forward to all year. My friend and I made a big roast dinner together—she cooked chicken and I cooked beef. My husband ate it without saying thank you or saying anything nice about it. The only comment I remember was, “Do you British people use gravy for your flavouring?”

Looking back, it wasn't really about someone wanting a lie-in or even about Christmas dinner. It was the atmosphere—the irritation, negativity and feeling embarrassed by my own husband when I was just trying to enjoy having my friend there and have a happy Christmas.

OP posts:
dreamingbohemian · 17/08/2026 23:28

If you don't have kids then you're not in prison.
You can just come home. Do it.

ClairDeLaLune · 17/08/2026 23:37

hugasaurus · 17/08/2026 23:23

He sounds awful. My DH would never speak about one of my friends like that in a million years. Also 8:30/9am on Christmas morning is hardly that early. Perhaps mildly annoying if he was woken up but that sometimes happens when you have guests, it’s not really a big deal on a special occasion. I’d just have sighed inwardly and then got over it.

It doesn’t sound like he’s very nice to you.

And ignore @Viviennemary . Never seen her post a helpful comment in 8 years of my being on MN.

Yeah Viviennemary has some weird views and posts some nasty comments, I’ve noticed this too.

Come home OP. Stay with your friend and have as much gravy as you want!

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 17/08/2026 23:39

Viviennemary · 17/08/2026 21:14

It was a mistake to invite your friend for Christmas and really inconsiderate of her to be loud so early in the morning. Yes your husband was rude and agressive but really annoying behaviour from your friend.

You need to read the OP's other thread before posting stuff like this.

@samanthaoritz please leave this man. He is abusive and you don't deserve it.

Notimeforaname · 17/08/2026 23:49

You can go back home when you feel lonely.
You can leave him if youre unhappy.

EvieBB · 18/08/2026 01:01

samanthaoritz · 17/08/2026 21:17

a mistake to invite my friend for christmas who knows how lonely i am? what?

Yes, I thought it was a very odd thing to say as well! Just ignore @Viviennemary

Eviebeans · 18/08/2026 01:05

What is it that’s keeping you from leaving him

maxslice · 18/08/2026 01:52

samanthaoritz · 17/08/2026 21:17

a mistake to invite my friend for christmas who knows how lonely i am? what?

Quite right. Your husband has no manners or social skills. I think you should have gone to your friend and, “ I know how excited you are, Michelle, but Ramon is sleeping. Could you tone it down some or move to another room?” That’s not too much to ask.

samanthaoritz · 18/08/2026 02:04

maxslice · 18/08/2026 01:52

Quite right. Your husband has no manners or social skills. I think you should have gone to your friend and, “ I know how excited you are, Michelle, but Ramon is sleeping. Could you tone it down some or move to another room?” That’s not too much to ask.

its not my problem if a grown adult has no manners or social skills, and it was christmas day i dont think 9am is unreasonable to be making noise. especially with an international guest in the house

OP posts:
MrsBatshitRatshit · 18/08/2026 02:47

So what has happened since Christmas? Is this an isolated incident or has your husband continued to be a jerk?

MyOtherProfile · 18/08/2026 02:50

MrsBatshitRatshit · 18/08/2026 02:47

So what has happened since Christmas? Is this an isolated incident or has your husband continued to be a jerk?

Good question.

candyflosscurtains · 18/08/2026 02:53

Viviennemary · 17/08/2026 21:14

It was a mistake to invite your friend for Christmas and really inconsiderate of her to be loud so early in the morning. Yes your husband was rude and agressive but really annoying behaviour from your friend.

This.
I expect your hard-working husband felt his nose was pushed out by you having your friend there.
Couldn't she have come another time ?

Imbusytodaysorry · 18/08/2026 02:57

Viviennemary · 17/08/2026 21:14

It was a mistake to invite your friend for Christmas and really inconsiderate of her to be loud so early in the morning. Yes your husband was rude and agressive but really annoying behaviour from your friend.

Why was it a mistake to have a friend for Xmas ? Op has explained she is lonely and isolated .

candyflosscurtains · 18/08/2026 02:59

Imbusytodaysorry · 18/08/2026 02:57

Why was it a mistake to have a friend for Xmas ? Op has explained she is lonely and isolated .

Because her husband was working late and wanted a lie-in the next day.

If she's "lonely and isolated" why not get a job?

Imbusytodaysorry · 18/08/2026 03:02

candyflosscurtains · 18/08/2026 02:59

Because her husband was working late and wanted a lie-in the next day.

If she's "lonely and isolated" why not get a job?

Oh did op say she hasn’t got a job ? Must say I never seen that part!
You can work and be lonely .

candyflosscurtains · 18/08/2026 03:04

Imbusytodaysorry · 18/08/2026 03:02

Oh did op say she hasn’t got a job ? Must say I never seen that part!
You can work and be lonely .

I don't know.
Maybe she needs a hobby ?

expatme · 18/08/2026 03:09

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Peakyblinder18 · 18/08/2026 03:10

@samanthaoritz it's August 2026.
It's your call and you know you can't justify staying.

Isthistgereallife · 18/08/2026 03:13

samanthaoritz · 18/08/2026 02:04

its not my problem if a grown adult has no manners or social skills, and it was christmas day i dont think 9am is unreasonable to be making noise. especially with an international guest in the house

I don't think an adult needs to be making shit loads of noise on Christmas morning when parts of the household were working the night before

samanthaoritz · 18/08/2026 03:16

Isthistgereallife · 18/08/2026 03:13

I don't think an adult needs to be making shit loads of noise on Christmas morning when parts of the household were working the night before

I think this is where people are getting confused. He wasn’t working nights. He got home at 4pm the day before and went to sleep at 11pm

OP posts:
3luckystars · 18/08/2026 03:17

Why are you still there? Your body is telling you Get out of there. Listen to it.

Go home. You are wanted there.

samanthaoritz · 18/08/2026 03:19

candyflosscurtains · 18/08/2026 02:59

Because her husband was working late and wanted a lie-in the next day.

If she's "lonely and isolated" why not get a job?

No one said my husband was working nights. He doesn’t. He was home by 4pm the night before

no where did I say I don’t have a job.

OP posts:
candyflosscurtains · 18/08/2026 03:26

samanthaoritz · 18/08/2026 03:19

No one said my husband was working nights. He doesn’t. He was home by 4pm the night before

no where did I say I don’t have a job.

OK.

So are you really isolated (like halfway up the Pyrenees or in the Sierra de Guara Natural Park) ? Or do you just feel isolated.

Are there any English people where you are that you could meet occasionally and socialise with?

Ohdearnotthisagain · 18/08/2026 04:11

I don’t know what’s going on with some of these responses OP but his behaviour was dreadful. Name calling, rudeness. This can’t be isolated and I suspect that’s why you feel isolated. If you are unhappy you should come home and initiate divorce proceedings because life is just too short to feel like you do.

FoldItIn · 18/08/2026 04:21

WindsorGreatPark · 17/08/2026 22:54

Ignore Viv. She gets a little thrill from kicking people who are down.

Nooo @Viviennemary is an ardent man defender. Even abusive ones. I mean, they also enjoy kicking posters when they are down so two birds and all that.

You need to get away from this man @samanthaoritz he isn't one of the good ones.
Do you want to?

ForeverTheOptomist · 18/08/2026 04:33

samanthaoritz · 17/08/2026 21:17

a mistake to invite my friend for christmas who knows how lonely i am? what?

Is 9am really 'so early' @viviennemary?