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Husband keeps ruining family days out.

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FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 08:30

A few weeks ago it was my birthday and on the way home from a family day out my husband started an argument with me about my degree. I have already given him all the info regarding my degree (I’m halfway through so if he has questions now then he’s clearly not been paying attention). But he was asking questions that I’ve already answered many times so I was fed up because it’s just evidence that he pays zero interest in me. And i was tired from our day out. He had already tried to goad me into slagging off one woman for going back to work after having her baby and then his step mum for not working and in both instances I stuck up for the women. So he says (fyi I’m studying the Arts) ‘isn’t a degree supposed to lead to something?’ Meaning he thinks my doing a degree is pointless. And he does this a lot. Anytime I try to do anything beyond being a SAHM, he’ll find fault in. I said this and he went ballistic. Birthday ruined I spent the rest of the day crying in my room - he did not come check if I was okay. Recently it was my youngests birthday we had a lovely day out then we went home to chill for a bit. He napped while i took the dog for a walk, then we went to dinner and the entire time he was nitpicking at the kids. He got snarky with my son because he wanted nachos but he was having a big kids meal so hubs said no - i backed him up. Then my second eldest wanted slushy (which we had agreed the kids wouldn’t drink ever again because they’re toxic) he said no at first but she was hassling so he have in - i did not contradict him. My youngest (who’s birthday it was) picked that restaurant becauseof it’s soft play he said she could play in there once we ordered dinner - i backed him up. He was also offensive to my eldest by asking ‘is she actually learning musical theatre or just doing shows?’ She was clearly annoyed by this comment as she kept playfully bringing it up but he didn’t apologise he just ignored her. Then he started asking about her GCSE’s. He started the convo by saying is she still doing that thing in september or not because you’re always changing things (there was a programme for teens that i was looking into for her but she wasnt keen and my husband said it was too expensive so i cancelled those plans and he was told all of this) i was already fed up with him hassling the kids and so I may have made a sarcastic comment - almost forgot he kept nagging my second eldest about her peas (she hates peas) he said she had to eat ALL of them if she wanted a nacho from her little sis. I pointed out that she had been given a ton so maybe just half. Which she did but she put salt on them so they wouldn’t taste awful to her and he had a problem with that, then proceeded to make comments throughout the meal about how she didn’t eat all of her peas. So it’s the end of the meal and he’s being an arse and my youngest (who’s birthday it is) wants to go into the soft play. Everyone has finished dinner btw and we are just waiting for the bill. He said no and then started getting aggy with her and being cruel by saying she wouldn’t be allowed a movie if she went in the soft play. Did I mention it was her birthday!? So I said very quietly to him that I didn’t mind taking her in there while he waited for the bill. He was furious, started shouting saying I was undermining him said I do it all the time blah blah - i had literally backed him up throughout the meal, i draw the line at forcing my children to eat food they hate and he knows that. Anyway I left the angry little man on his own and went to the soft play funnily enough none of the older kids wanted to sit with him. We were in there for about five mins when he came out because the bill had been paid I tried to talk to him and clear things up he stormed out and refused to talk to me the rest of the evening, didn’t sing happy birthday when we did the cake didn’t help with the candles.

I did try to clear things up in the car ride home but he just kept shouting and I didn’t want to ruin LO’s birthday so I left it. Am just so fed up with him ruining our family days out. He always seems to find some issue with anything we are doing and it makes me not want him to come with us because it always ends with an argument because I’ll either stick up for the kids or myself and that infuriates him. He never used to be like this but last year he started working for a new company where I know the men there hold mysoginistic views and he is stressed because we don’t have a lot of money at the moment - cost of living, four kids, one wage family (he works five days a week and on saturdays either plays golf or cricket or goes on days out with his friends) so there’s no time for me to work (we home ed) oh and he’s got a trip to america coming up to watch the football.

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FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:40

Nadinesnotblowsy9 · 05/06/2026 12:35

Sorry quoting my own quote to say I hadn’t read your update when I wrote my response op.

Do you think all of the time he improved after therapy was an act which he can’t sustain any more?

It might not be this of course, just putting out suggestions…

Or, I hate to say it but do you think he might have met someone else and is deliberately causing upsets in tng family to justify him leaving?

Or the money thing?

Whichever it is, I am really sorry that you are going through this again 🌺

You have to think hard about whether it’s your role to “handle” this again and help to put things right, or whether that is his job?

I do feel like meeting someone else could be a possibility. When I started feeling this way I stopped being physically intimate with him. Aside from a few odd comments it doesn’t seem to bother him.

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bigboykitty · 05/06/2026 12:42

He sounds insufferable and it's run it's course. Start the divorce. Your children will be so much happier when he's left.

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:43

MyKindHiker · 05/06/2026 11:04

I don't know your financial situation. Everyone on mumsnet can be very quick to say 'leave' but it's not always that easy if you have 4 kids, a dog, home educate and no income.

I'd say as an alternative just cut him out. My husband can be a bit of a tw@t and me and the kids just hang out without him, so I effectively single parent most of the time. I pack weekends full of activities so we minimize the time we spend together for the simple reason that being together as a family is not fun for anyone.

If husband wants to spend his life lying on the sofa watching Netflix, let him rot and the kids don't need to be exposed to his temper.

Is it ideal? Absolutely not. But neither would being homeless or having to change schools be. I'd love a life where I could model healthy relationships for them but I'd also love them to live in a world without global warming and Nigel effing Farage but we don't get everything we want.

Yes the kids and I spend 95% of our time without him. However I can’t exclude him from special occasions. What I will do from next year however is do a party with all of their friends and my friends when he is at work so that if he is a moody twat on our family day out they will at least have really special beautiful memories with their friends.

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Lomonald · 05/06/2026 12:44

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:38

No. But I need to create an exit plan and while doing that I need somewhere to vent and gather emotional support.

Sorry i honestly didn't mean to sound callus, or anything
I would probably stop doing things with him, or as much as possible and just detach.

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:44

bigboykitty · 05/06/2026 12:42

He sounds insufferable and it's run it's course. Start the divorce. Your children will be so much happier when he's left.

I think the older two would but the younger two wouldn’t as they aren’t old enough to see through his bs yet.

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FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:46

Frazzledfraggle07 · 05/06/2026 11:26

That sounds awful, would you be happy if your daughter was in a relationship with a man just like him? She is learning that your relationship is a normal one and that's what she will look for.

I do normally call him out on his behaviour as the children are now learning to do. And if he’s behaved a certain way then I will explain to the kids later on how that behaviour isn’t okay.

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TheFormidableMrsC · 05/06/2026 12:46

He’s a vile abusive cunt. I trust that’s clear enough.

Lomonald · 05/06/2026 12:46

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:44

I think the older two would but the younger two wouldn’t as they aren’t old enough to see through his bs yet.

I don't think it matters they don't have to see through him,

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:48

SnappyUmberLion · 05/06/2026 12:20

Is he actually gaslighting anyone, or just disagreeing with them? The two are very different.

Yes. Someone will call him out on something he has done specifically. And he will deny that it happened even if others speak up and say they witnessed him doing or saying something.

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UpDownAllAround1 · 05/06/2026 12:52

I get the feeling and may be wrong that these are not his kids and perhaps he has long checked out of spending quality time to make this a happy family. Going for a World Cup game is just ridiculous given money issues

UpDownAllAround1 · 05/06/2026 12:52

I get the feeling and may be wrong that these are not his kids and perhaps he has long checked out of spending quality time to make this a happy family. Going for a World Cup game is just ridiculous given money issues

UpDownAllAround1 · 05/06/2026 12:52

I get the feeling and may be wrong that these are not his kids and perhaps he has long checked out of spending quality time to make this a happy family. Going for a World Cup game is just ridiculous given money issues

SnappyUmberLion · 05/06/2026 12:54

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:48

Yes. Someone will call him out on something he has done specifically. And he will deny that it happened even if others speak up and say they witnessed him doing or saying something.

That just sounds like straightforward lying.

gamerchick · 05/06/2026 12:58

Neither of you sound that great tbh OP. You'll stay with a bully, who bullies your kids because he provides the lifestyle you want.

The second anyone uses sex as a weapon then it's game over. Get a job and leave the daft twat. Your kids are learning shocking lessons on how to be in a relationship just by watching their parents

ClawedButler · 05/06/2026 13:02

Kind of agree with @gamerchick. You saying, "this kind of behaviour is unacceptable" to your kids afterwards doesn't mean anything - they know it's crap because you demonstrate to them time and time again that it IS acceptable.

Your words mean nothing if your actions don't support them.

You ARE teaching your girls that this is what they should expect from a relationship (always on the back foot, always in the wrong, always the one to submit), and you ARE teaching your boys that this is how men behave and women will put up with it.

Lomonald · 05/06/2026 13:02

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:46

I do normally call him out on his behaviour as the children are now learning to do. And if he’s behaved a certain way then I will explain to the kids later on how that behaviour isn’t okay.

I don't know why you think your children need to learn what he is like or have the responsibility to "call out behaviour "

childrenaremyworld · 05/06/2026 13:05

I’m sorry my ex was like this, holidays, family days out, birthdays, Xmas were all ruined for many years. He used to start huge arguments even in public. I used to dread special occasions. I finally avoided going out with him and took the children out on my own, even for their birthdays. I finally got the courage to leave after years of domestic violence and because of the effects on the children. Please don’t underestimate the effects of his behaviour on your children, it can cause life long trauma. Three years on we are happy, peaceful and the children are thriving. Your children do not have a choice, you however do x

Jellycatspyjamas · 05/06/2026 13:09

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:25

Yes to this although I do not fawn. I will tolerate certain things on special occasions so as not to cause an argument. I do not fawn and I do not tiptoe. I might not raise the issues there and then if I can see the other person will just belligerently resist and refuse to see reason. But there will be consequences such as emotionally detaching, refusing all physical intimacy and retracting any support.

Is it you doing the withdrawing and detaching? If so it’s not remotely and healthy was to deal with conflict, and it’s not working given his behaviour isn’t improving. Never mind de entering men, you need to learn how to use your voice effectively. The consequences for someone who will not behave well with your kids, who picks at you and belittles you is the ending of the relationship.

I understand that’s not a quick fix with 4 kids and no job, but living with him and modelling passive aggressive behaviour isn’t good for anyone. I know you’re doing what you think is right for the moment, but my goodness it’s a high price to pay.

BashfulClam · 05/06/2026 13:09

My Dad ruined everything, he’d explode and shout for no reason, talk through clenched teeth at us, storm out of places. We always felt upset and stressed on what we’re meant be nice days.

CitizenofMoronia · 05/06/2026 13:22

just imagin how much peace and calm your life would be without this man that clearly dosnt like either you or your kids in it ruining every celibration you have.

Specialagentblond · 05/06/2026 13:25

His behaviour is unacceptable

I wonder with men whether it’s some sort of anxiety? Or the need to be the centre of attention all the time. My husband can be like this and I have had countless conversations about it. What has helped is talking about it afterwards. Really pointing out how his behaviour makes other people feel. Sometimes if we are with family I’ll give him a nudge if I can anticipate him spiralling into being a dick. But I had to tell him
recently that I’m not his mother. For my husband I think it stems from social awkwardness. His whole family will turn up to a wedding and not say hello to anyone then moan that no one said hello to them while everyone thinks they’re cold and snobby.

its a bit like some people who stress and cause panic when they are going to the airport. My husband used to be really stressy about this to the point I said if you start next time we are going separately and checking in separately and I’d meet him on the plane. The kids said they’d join me so he’s better at it now.

I’ve had to send him lots of links to emotional regulation and self awareness

Ohnobackagain · 05/06/2026 13:25

bedfrog · 05/06/2026 09:20

I only got a quarter of the way through op but he sounds vile. He intentionally ruined your birthday. Why put up with all of that when you don't have to? Is that what you want for the rest of your life? Is that the kind of relationship what you want to model for your kids?

Same @FancyMintShark he sounds awful all the time!

Dinutaseat · 05/06/2026 13:30

Oh, one of those. They can't bear anything happening that isn't all about them. They have to start arguments and sulking to turn the focus of attention back to themselves. Well known type of man, unfortunately - or perhaps man child is a more accurate descriptor.

Solaitt · 05/06/2026 13:34

Far too many men don’t want to be fathers. They don’t want to be a family. They’re selfish as fuck.
It’s beyond me why they decide to have children with their wives/partners.

Please leave him.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 05/06/2026 13:35

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:46

I do normally call him out on his behaviour as the children are now learning to do. And if he’s behaved a certain way then I will explain to the kids later on how that behaviour isn’t okay.

So you're expecting the kids to be the adults in this situation then while he behaves like a child? It's normal for parents to call out children's bad behaviour and explain why it's wrong, not the other way round.

Honestly he just sounds like a massive twat. Has he got any redeeming features?

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