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Husband keeps ruining family days out.

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FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 08:30

A few weeks ago it was my birthday and on the way home from a family day out my husband started an argument with me about my degree. I have already given him all the info regarding my degree (I’m halfway through so if he has questions now then he’s clearly not been paying attention). But he was asking questions that I’ve already answered many times so I was fed up because it’s just evidence that he pays zero interest in me. And i was tired from our day out. He had already tried to goad me into slagging off one woman for going back to work after having her baby and then his step mum for not working and in both instances I stuck up for the women. So he says (fyi I’m studying the Arts) ‘isn’t a degree supposed to lead to something?’ Meaning he thinks my doing a degree is pointless. And he does this a lot. Anytime I try to do anything beyond being a SAHM, he’ll find fault in. I said this and he went ballistic. Birthday ruined I spent the rest of the day crying in my room - he did not come check if I was okay. Recently it was my youngests birthday we had a lovely day out then we went home to chill for a bit. He napped while i took the dog for a walk, then we went to dinner and the entire time he was nitpicking at the kids. He got snarky with my son because he wanted nachos but he was having a big kids meal so hubs said no - i backed him up. Then my second eldest wanted slushy (which we had agreed the kids wouldn’t drink ever again because they’re toxic) he said no at first but she was hassling so he have in - i did not contradict him. My youngest (who’s birthday it was) picked that restaurant becauseof it’s soft play he said she could play in there once we ordered dinner - i backed him up. He was also offensive to my eldest by asking ‘is she actually learning musical theatre or just doing shows?’ She was clearly annoyed by this comment as she kept playfully bringing it up but he didn’t apologise he just ignored her. Then he started asking about her GCSE’s. He started the convo by saying is she still doing that thing in september or not because you’re always changing things (there was a programme for teens that i was looking into for her but she wasnt keen and my husband said it was too expensive so i cancelled those plans and he was told all of this) i was already fed up with him hassling the kids and so I may have made a sarcastic comment - almost forgot he kept nagging my second eldest about her peas (she hates peas) he said she had to eat ALL of them if she wanted a nacho from her little sis. I pointed out that she had been given a ton so maybe just half. Which she did but she put salt on them so they wouldn’t taste awful to her and he had a problem with that, then proceeded to make comments throughout the meal about how she didn’t eat all of her peas. So it’s the end of the meal and he’s being an arse and my youngest (who’s birthday it is) wants to go into the soft play. Everyone has finished dinner btw and we are just waiting for the bill. He said no and then started getting aggy with her and being cruel by saying she wouldn’t be allowed a movie if she went in the soft play. Did I mention it was her birthday!? So I said very quietly to him that I didn’t mind taking her in there while he waited for the bill. He was furious, started shouting saying I was undermining him said I do it all the time blah blah - i had literally backed him up throughout the meal, i draw the line at forcing my children to eat food they hate and he knows that. Anyway I left the angry little man on his own and went to the soft play funnily enough none of the older kids wanted to sit with him. We were in there for about five mins when he came out because the bill had been paid I tried to talk to him and clear things up he stormed out and refused to talk to me the rest of the evening, didn’t sing happy birthday when we did the cake didn’t help with the candles.

I did try to clear things up in the car ride home but he just kept shouting and I didn’t want to ruin LO’s birthday so I left it. Am just so fed up with him ruining our family days out. He always seems to find some issue with anything we are doing and it makes me not want him to come with us because it always ends with an argument because I’ll either stick up for the kids or myself and that infuriates him. He never used to be like this but last year he started working for a new company where I know the men there hold mysoginistic views and he is stressed because we don’t have a lot of money at the moment - cost of living, four kids, one wage family (he works five days a week and on saturdays either plays golf or cricket or goes on days out with his friends) so there’s no time for me to work (we home ed) oh and he’s got a trip to america coming up to watch the football.

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Frazzledfraggle07 · 05/06/2026 11:26

That sounds awful, would you be happy if your daughter was in a relationship with a man just like him? She is learning that your relationship is a normal one and that's what she will look for.

Hangingcrystal · 05/06/2026 11:30

You are all being abused by a house terrorist.
He doesn't want to spend time with you and makes it as awful as possible.

He belittles you deliberately to keep you down.

You are an adult.
It is clear he is bullying and emotionally abusing your children, and they know it.

You need to reach out for support from a domestic abuse charity.

Your poor children.
You all deserve better.

Hangingcrystal · 05/06/2026 11:33

NiftyGreenBiscuit · 05/06/2026 09:38

It’s abuse. He’s an abusive arse and no it doesn’t matter if he’s fine the rest of the time. He’s still an abusive arsehole.

It is.
This was my whole childhood.
He ruined everything.

Their legacy is anxiety and depression in many of their children.

Parky04 · 05/06/2026 11:35

I was believing this post until the last sentence. You have little money but he is spending thousands to go to America!

OneMoreCoffee3 · 05/06/2026 11:41

numberblocks54321 · 05/06/2026 09:37

Men ruining special events is a common theme on mumsnet , I grew up with my Dad doing the same and he still does. There’s a family wedding coming up and my sister and I are so anxious about his behaviour . 90% of the rest of the time he’s ‘normal’

can anyone explain why they do this? I haven’t come across a woman that does this

My mum does this. She has a personality disorder. We are no contact now

No excuses for this man at all or people like him and perhaps there are more men like this than women. I am 100% sure that women do this too though

greatshesback · 05/06/2026 11:49

I never usually comment on threads like this, but I have no idea why you’re with a man who behaves like a petulant child. I know it’s easy to say but I would think very seriously about splitting up. This is not normal behaviour and sounds like you’re walking on eggshells all the time to keep the peace. Not a great example to set for your children about what a healthy living relationship is. Pls make plans to leave

drunkelephant83 · 05/06/2026 11:57

He sounds like a right prick. Forcing a child to eat peas to then allow them to have a nacho? What planet does he live on.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 05/06/2026 12:01

' he's got a trip coming up to America to watch the football '

well that says it all really.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 05/06/2026 12:03

Are all the children his ?

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:06

What makes you think they aren’t getting out?

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SnappyUmberLion · 05/06/2026 12:10

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:06

What makes you think they aren’t getting out?

You've had several questions and helpful replies, and this is what you focus on?

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 05/06/2026 12:15

Are any of the children his? You refer to them as "my eldest" etc. How long have you been together?

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:16

He has only just started behaving like this since last year. We did seperate a while back because he kept partying and staying out. We were apart for a year and he ended up going to therapy and he made massive improvements. So we decided to give it another go and things were wonderful for a good few years. Now it’s all gone down hill again. The issue is that whenever I raise any issues with him he gas lights me and tends to gas light the kids. And just to clarify to everyone here. He hasn’t always been like this. And yes I do know when certain behaviours are abusive, I’m also careful not to behave like an overbearing ‘coddling’ mother should this behaviour lead me to leave him. As I know tbat often goes against women. So I intervene only when necessary. My children know and have for a long time that he can tell them to eat their veg all he likes but they don’t have to comply. And they know I’ll back them up. My husband knows that first and foremost I am an ally to my children not him. His usual requests for the kids to eat their veg are very polite and gentle. For some reason this time they weren’t hence why I felt the need to vent. It’s so out of character.

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SnappyUmberLion · 05/06/2026 12:20

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:16

He has only just started behaving like this since last year. We did seperate a while back because he kept partying and staying out. We were apart for a year and he ended up going to therapy and he made massive improvements. So we decided to give it another go and things were wonderful for a good few years. Now it’s all gone down hill again. The issue is that whenever I raise any issues with him he gas lights me and tends to gas light the kids. And just to clarify to everyone here. He hasn’t always been like this. And yes I do know when certain behaviours are abusive, I’m also careful not to behave like an overbearing ‘coddling’ mother should this behaviour lead me to leave him. As I know tbat often goes against women. So I intervene only when necessary. My children know and have for a long time that he can tell them to eat their veg all he likes but they don’t have to comply. And they know I’ll back them up. My husband knows that first and foremost I am an ally to my children not him. His usual requests for the kids to eat their veg are very polite and gentle. For some reason this time they weren’t hence why I felt the need to vent. It’s so out of character.

Is he actually gaslighting anyone, or just disagreeing with them? The two are very different.

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:25

TheSandgroper · 05/06/2026 10:59

I will bet any money that if his boss has a big event, presentation, sale or whatever, your dear husband doesn’t whinge, whine, complain or otherwise say “I don’t like anyone else having a nice time so I will be horrible”. I bet you he doesn’t do any of that.

And I bet you he doesn’t do it down the pub in front of his mates, either.

That tells you exactly what his opinion of you is. He doesn’t like you. He doesn’t like his children. It makes him very happy to have you upset and fawning over him. And he can do it whenever he wants a hit.

Yes to this although I do not fawn. I will tolerate certain things on special occasions so as not to cause an argument. I do not fawn and I do not tiptoe. I might not raise the issues there and then if I can see the other person will just belligerently resist and refuse to see reason. But there will be consequences such as emotionally detaching, refusing all physical intimacy and retracting any support.

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Monty36 · 05/06/2026 12:25

He feels threatened by your pending educational success.
He doesn’t sound like a man who can discuss or talk. He may not even be that aware of what is causing his mood.
See if you can talk to him though.

Nadinesnotblowsy9 · 05/06/2026 12:25

Op having read all of the responses, do you still think this is a recent change in your dh’s behaviour or do you think you have maybe glossed over his narcissism before now? Narcissists can be quite clever I think in turning everything so it’s pointing their way? It can be quite subtle.

Your dh doesn’t sound subtle though. The hyper-criticism of you and his dc is unacceptable. He may have worries but there is no justification for off loading his stress by taking his anxiety out on you and the dc!

He’s an adult. If he has financial and work concerns he can presumably discuss them with you like an adult?

If this really is a recent change in his behaviour then you need to take him for a quiet walk and tell him you understand he is stressed but you are massively disappointed in him atm and it needs to stop or your marriage is over. Tell him how you look to him as part of the parenting team to set a good example of how to behave and conduct themselves when under stress and instead he is being a complete arse.

Thinking about it though, all of these incidences you mention relate to spending money and earning. Could it be that your financial position is not as good as you think it is and he is keeping a lot of debts from you or something? And his temper manifests itself on celebration days because that is when you are spending as a family?

TheAutumnCrow · 05/06/2026 12:30

He's stressed about money and 'he’s got a trip to america coming up to watch the football'?

Selfish arse. That's costing people in the tens of thousands to attend the whole event, ten grand I've seen just for one or two of Scotland's group matches.

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:31

theonlyonestillawake · 05/06/2026 09:20

It sounds to me like he seems like more of an arse on days out because that's when he actually spends time with the family. When you're at home together he checks out and does his own thing. If he wasn't at golf at the weekend he'd probably be an arse then too.

Is this what you want for your kids? That every birthday is ruined by their dad(?) refusing to sing happy birthday and nitpicking at everything they do to get at you? He sees the kids as an extension of you, so is unkind to them as a punishment for you. He sounds awful.
I think your DC going to school, you getting a job and leaving this abusive man would be a lot more beneficial for them than homeschooling and living in a toxic environment.

If at some point I can see this isn’t getting any better then yes I will absolutely end things. If once I have done so I feel it would be easier all round for my children to attend school then I will do so. But the reason I home educate is because I always knew my children would lead a much more enriching and fulfilling life without the incessant drudgery of school. They all are intelligent amazing kids. They have lots of friends and spend a great deal of their time socialising. Something we have the luxury of being able to do because they don’t have to compete with 30/40 other kids in a classroom. And they don’t have to spend so much of their time learning about stuff that will not be relevant in their lives, so we don’t have to spend too much time doing the academic stuff. Tbey’re all really active and creative and they get to really dedicate a lot of time to sports and art. So I would always be reluctant to put them into school as I know that they would be missing out on so much. It would always be a last resort.

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Mylittlepea · 05/06/2026 12:32

Only got half way through but I could tell 5 sentences in that he is a total twat, immature and I couldn’t live with someone like that. Self centred arsehole.

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:33

TheAutumnCrow · 05/06/2026 12:30

He's stressed about money and 'he’s got a trip to america coming up to watch the football'?

Selfish arse. That's costing people in the tens of thousands to attend the whole event, ten grand I've seen just for one or two of Scotland's group matches.

Well yes thats why he’s stressed about money and hasn’t got any. Won’t admit that though. Will always blame it on providing financially for us. He says it in a jokey way but it grates on me as I feel there is an element of truth there.

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Nadinesnotblowsy9 · 05/06/2026 12:35

Nadinesnotblowsy9 · 05/06/2026 12:25

Op having read all of the responses, do you still think this is a recent change in your dh’s behaviour or do you think you have maybe glossed over his narcissism before now? Narcissists can be quite clever I think in turning everything so it’s pointing their way? It can be quite subtle.

Your dh doesn’t sound subtle though. The hyper-criticism of you and his dc is unacceptable. He may have worries but there is no justification for off loading his stress by taking his anxiety out on you and the dc!

He’s an adult. If he has financial and work concerns he can presumably discuss them with you like an adult?

If this really is a recent change in his behaviour then you need to take him for a quiet walk and tell him you understand he is stressed but you are massively disappointed in him atm and it needs to stop or your marriage is over. Tell him how you look to him as part of the parenting team to set a good example of how to behave and conduct themselves when under stress and instead he is being a complete arse.

Thinking about it though, all of these incidences you mention relate to spending money and earning. Could it be that your financial position is not as good as you think it is and he is keeping a lot of debts from you or something? And his temper manifests itself on celebration days because that is when you are spending as a family?

Sorry quoting my own quote to say I hadn’t read your update when I wrote my response op.

Do you think all of the time he improved after therapy was an act which he can’t sustain any more?

It might not be this of course, just putting out suggestions…

Or, I hate to say it but do you think he might have met someone else and is deliberately causing upsets in tng family to justify him leaving?

Or the money thing?

Whichever it is, I am really sorry that you are going through this again 🌺

You have to think hard about whether it’s your role to “handle” this again and help to put things right, or whether that is his job?

Lomonald · 05/06/2026 12:35

He doesn't like you Sadly so resents spending time with you all, can you stay with a man who doesn't like you ?

FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:37

Nadinesnotblowsy9 · 05/06/2026 12:25

Op having read all of the responses, do you still think this is a recent change in your dh’s behaviour or do you think you have maybe glossed over his narcissism before now? Narcissists can be quite clever I think in turning everything so it’s pointing their way? It can be quite subtle.

Your dh doesn’t sound subtle though. The hyper-criticism of you and his dc is unacceptable. He may have worries but there is no justification for off loading his stress by taking his anxiety out on you and the dc!

He’s an adult. If he has financial and work concerns he can presumably discuss them with you like an adult?

If this really is a recent change in his behaviour then you need to take him for a quiet walk and tell him you understand he is stressed but you are massively disappointed in him atm and it needs to stop or your marriage is over. Tell him how you look to him as part of the parenting team to set a good example of how to behave and conduct themselves when under stress and instead he is being a complete arse.

Thinking about it though, all of these incidences you mention relate to spending money and earning. Could it be that your financial position is not as good as you think it is and he is keeping a lot of debts from you or something? And his temper manifests itself on celebration days because that is when you are spending as a family?

Yes! I think that the mood at dinner was because he was probably thinking about the cost and taking it out on us because of guilt. I do think I have been blind to potential narcissism because I’ve always tried to see the best in him (no one wants to see the father of their children as a horrid person). I have been doing a lot of work recently decentering men and dismantling internalised misogyny. And possibly he is reacting to this. For the most part he is lovely with the kids. But admittedly he doesnt spend much time with us.

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FancyMintShark · 05/06/2026 12:38

Lomonald · 05/06/2026 12:35

He doesn't like you Sadly so resents spending time with you all, can you stay with a man who doesn't like you ?

No. But I need to create an exit plan and while doing that I need somewhere to vent and gather emotional support.

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