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The Dating Thread 58 - will you swoon in June? 🌸🌼🌸

447 replies

Nosdacariad · 21/05/2026 20:39

The Rules:
-The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating
-Develop a thick skin
-Do not invest emotionally too soon
-It’s all BS until it actually happens
-Trust your gut instinct
-People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault
-Know your worth
-If it's not fun, stop
-Loo update is mandatory
-No dating the thread
-Treat others as you'd like to be treated
-Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with
-The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future

  • If you're wondering if you're being too picky/should give another chance after the second chance/should try harder - the answer is invariably NO! You're not and you shouldn't. If this, now, is as good as it's going to get, the A game, then do you want what comes next?!
-OLD can get very time consuming. Keep doing other activities you enjoy Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item*
OP posts:
BoxOfCats · Yesterday 01:55

@Ilovelurchers What a creep. I have no issue with dating someone with a thing for tights (in fact my last long term partner had a real thing for them). But bringing it up constantly before you even meet is just yuck.

ForRedShark · Yesterday 01:55

I have a bite from Hinge! Ill let you know how it goes

BoxOfCats · Yesterday 01:56

I’m back from my first date with Mr Umbrella. He was perfectly lovely. Seemed very nice and has his shit together. We had a nice chat, it was friendly and fun. But I felt zero chemistry.

ForRedShark · Yesterday 01:57

@Ilovelurchers i was wondering, is it bad if a guy said to you that he has a thing for boots? Ive been blasted for that before.

ForRedShark · Yesterday 01:57

@BoxOfCats sorry to hear. Was it like just chatting to your brother or a male colleague?

BoxOfCats · Yesterday 01:58

Oh and this morning I got a like from Hinge from my next door neighbour!! Mid 30s so a good decade younger than me. He is a genuinely lovely guy but I have no interest in dating him! So awkward. Good thing I’m moving soon…

Nosdacariad · Yesterday 08:36

Kaltenzahn · 29/05/2026 23:53

@Ilovelurchers god good on you for dodging that one! Sounds a bit like he's looking for a prop to help him enjoy his fetish rather than looking to build a relationship with an actual person.

Nice 🏈 pun there.

Seriously men who tell you what to wear? TERRIFYING!

OP posts:
Nosdacariad · Yesterday 08:37

@BoxOfCats will you see ☔️☂️🌂 again?

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OneShyQuail · Yesterday 12:06

ForRedShark · 28/05/2026 16:12

@Ilovelurchers please dont see this in the wrong way, it is just my explanation:

Say there are 100 men on Tinder. As a woman, you will only swipe right on the 20 most attractive photos at any one time. You will bypass the other 80.

Your Mr Beard is in the top 20. Im in most womens Bypass 80%

Now if there are 100 women on Tinder. Most men will right swipe on at least 80 of them, and Bypass 20.

My point is, it is usually only the top quarter of attractive men who get matches. Whereas at least 75% of women get matches.

I am sorry.
This is rubbish!

Where are you getting this from?!

@Ilovelurchers dont chase him chick. If he wanted you, hed chase you.

Appreciate these responses are to days old stuff and things may have developed / changed but just wanted to reply.....will continue to read on.....
Will miss things as lots to read but hope everyone's good

OneShyQuail · Yesterday 12:15

ElleintheWoods · 28/05/2026 23:18

I’m sorry in advance but I’m going to be honest with you. You needs to get offline for a bit and detox from manosphere content. This example is literally straight out of Adolescence.

I have called good mates out on this and I will keep telling men to stop believing things that money hungry influencers say. They then proceed to sell men products to get into that ‘20%’. Supplements, workouts, cosmetics, the lot.

Go to a public place where couples go this weekend. Maybe a shopping centre.

Look around.

Who are the men there with partners? Bold men. Overweight men. Men with visible health problems. Men with bad jobs or no job. Your 19-year-old spotty neighbour with his high school girlfriend. That bookish guy from the chess club. Your IT guy from the office who has far too many cats. That gamer guy with green hair from across the road that never says a word.

The point is, lots of very average looking and very average people are in relationships. A very small percentage of the population is exceptionally attractive or otherwise outstanding. Most couples are average people dating other average people.

Without sounding cocky, I’m very attractive. I get pulled out of crowds at events to go backstage, get freebies everywhere, get away with murder.

I feel attracted to… all kinds of guys. I don’t care what job they do, backgrounds, usually more attracted to overweight guys etc. They just need to have good chat and really connect with me at a human level.

The kinds of comments that make me reconsider the relationship?

  • I’m not good enough for you
  • Wow, you’re well out of my league
  • I must take a pic of us for my mate or they won’t believe we’re together
  • Why would you date someone like me?
  • 80/20 stuff - huuuuge red flag 🚩

Some of these relationships have gone on for a while as I’ve forced them but they’ve failed because the man just doesn’t feel comfortable. Essentially they friendzone themselves.

Something I now live by is that I’ll only date people who feel comfortable in their own skin, want me and have the balls to pursue me. If you don’t think you deserve the woman, you will self sabotage. You first need to believe you’re good enough, love yourself and the rest will follow.

You remind me of my mate who had terrible self esteem, really wanted to be in a relationship but suffered a lot of setbacks. He was in a really bad place and hyper focused on the 80/20 mindset and how he needed to change everything about himself.

He got to a mentally better place and is now engaged 2 years into a great relationship.

Back yourself and you will get the girl. But you need to genuinely value yourself first.

Stepping away from corners of the internet where they chip chip away at your self esteem, and taking a break from dating apps (also not a great place for self esteem or good mental health) can be really beneficial along the way.

Us women also come in all kinds of packages. We also struggle massively with self esteem and from a young age are taught you need to look in a certain way to get a guy. It’s a pretty rubbish way to live. Don’t let manosphere propaganda get you and tell you you’re all kinds of wrong. Next you’ll be looksmaxxxing and buying sports cars thinking this will fix everything. Spoiler alert, this mostly attracts other men and the odd gold digger.

Oh my days. What a post ❤️ i was about to write very similar.

I would also add - attractiveness changes through a relationship too. Noone stays the same, people gain weight, people lose weight, men with hair go bald, people get health issues. My DP is loosing his hair at quite a young age. I couldnt give a rats ass. It was obvious when I met him. Didn't put me off in the slightest. And im short (5'2) so wasnt out there looking for 6ft men on OLD either!

attractiveness is very subjective. I can guarantee out of the 20 women on this thread or whatever we would not find the same man attractive. My best mates version of attractive men makes me die inside 😂😂

So get off the incel content and protect your mental health and get outside and mingle with real people 🌞

OneShyQuail · Yesterday 12:28

ForRedShark · 29/05/2026 13:30

@Becky3825 im sorry, i didnt mean to tale this thread over. You have all been very helpful to me.

Yes but you clearly engage with the s*ite the other guy is posting because a lot of your posts are very incel linked

TheThingOnTheIce · Yesterday 12:31

I actually swipe left on conventionally attractive men .
my last ex , and these were his own words ‘a chubby ginger nerd with jam jar glasses’ used to tell me all the time he was punching above his weight and that his friends agreed. Used to say he didn’t know what I saw in him or why I was with him .
but you know what, I loved him . I think we could have been forever if there wasn’t something clearly going on behind my back .
it really not about looks

CleanShirt · Yesterday 12:33

Well this thread has taken a turn 🫣 love @ElleintheWoods's post!

How are you feeling today about things @Nosdacariad ?

I'm on holiday with my friend and we're getting all the same people liking us on Feeld 🤣 we've turned it into a game.

Mr Mullet has left me on read today, trying not to think too much into it but think I'm a little put out after him messaging someone when we were on our date...

Ilovelurchers · Yesterday 12:53

CleanShirt · Yesterday 12:33

Well this thread has taken a turn 🫣 love @ElleintheWoods's post!

How are you feeling today about things @Nosdacariad ?

I'm on holiday with my friend and we're getting all the same people liking us on Feeld 🤣 we've turned it into a game.

Mr Mullet has left me on read today, trying not to think too much into it but think I'm a little put out after him messaging someone when we were on our date...

I missed that - did he definitely message someone during the date? On a dating app? That's a bit much (unless you have agreed to be non-exclusive to the extent that you discuss who else you are dating, share stories of this etc - that's the kind of relationship Mr NHS wanted from me, but I couldn't do it).

How long since his last reply - does he have form for leaving it this long? Could he be working today? Hope you get a decent message back from him soon!

Ilovelurchers · Yesterday 12:58

So, my packed weekend of dating is now just one date! Later today, with Mr Horsebox, the guy whose life I described as a "train wreck". This is probably unfair - bascially he is living in his camper. I know some people do this as a lifestyle choice (and I can see the appeal to be quite honest) but I have also known men who do this in between relationships where they can move in and essentially be bankrolled by the woman. This is what my ex did basically - he owned a whole house, but he rented that out, and lived in a camper until I foolishly let him move in with me..... Financially it was a complete nightmare, and that's actually the reason I left him despite still loving him in many ways.

So as soon as Horsebox told me this I just thought, oh God, here we go again .....

But perhaps I am being unfair? I am broadminded generally l, I'm not demanding two point four children and a picket fence, and I am certainly no gold digger, but it's just the fact that it sounds so much like my ex chilla me a bit. (And I could NEVER tell my mom or my daughter - they would go mental, after all the problems ex's financial behaviour caused!).

CleanShirt · Yesterday 13:10

Ilovelurchers · Yesterday 12:53

I missed that - did he definitely message someone during the date? On a dating app? That's a bit much (unless you have agreed to be non-exclusive to the extent that you discuss who else you are dating, share stories of this etc - that's the kind of relationship Mr NHS wanted from me, but I couldn't do it).

How long since his last reply - does he have form for leaving it this long? Could he be working today? Hope you get a decent message back from him soon!

WhatsApp, on the date!

Ilovelurchers · Yesterday 13:15

CleanShirt · Yesterday 13:10

WhatsApp, on the date!

Did you see anything about the person he was messaging? Could it have been a necessary message to his elderly gran, or something? 🤞🤞🤞

CleanShirt · Yesterday 13:16

Ilovelurchers · Yesterday 13:15

Did you see anything about the person he was messaging? Could it have been a necessary message to his elderly gran, or something? 🤞🤞🤞

It was "generic woman's name - Hinge" so definitely not!

Ilovelurchers · Yesterday 13:20

CleanShirt · Yesterday 13:16

It was "generic woman's name - Hinge" so definitely not!

That's bad. You need to proceed with caution with this one.

I mean, fine, you aren't exclusive yet so technically he isn't doing anything wrong.

But doing it on the date is at vest crass.

Did you get the impression he wanted you to see? Trying to make you jealous?

CleanShirt · Yesterday 13:25

@Ilovelurchers definitely don't think he intended me to see and swiped away quickly. Obviously too early for an exclusivity chat but quite put out that I didn't even get one exclusive night. Going to have to think long and hard because I really like him....

LiquidSquid · Yesterday 14:00

Oof, CleanShirt That's rough. Unless it's a friend who's name is like 'Sharon Hinge' or something?!

Sorry, not trying to make light of it.

I've decided to take a break myself from the Apps (I never do this properly but I think it will do me good! I only do a day or so but I think I'm going to properly delete them then start over when I feel ready)

CleanShirt · Yesterday 14:33

@LiquidSquid ha no apology needed!

It's confusing because he is pretty present, talks about making plans (potentially future faking but who knows), is tactile and affectionate. I'm hyper aware I'm a very anxiously attached person when I actually like someone so I just need to keep reminding myself that he doesn't actually owe me must at this stage.

LiquidSquid · Yesterday 15:16

CleanShirt · Yesterday 14:33

@LiquidSquid ha no apology needed!

It's confusing because he is pretty present, talks about making plans (potentially future faking but who knows), is tactile and affectionate. I'm hyper aware I'm a very anxiously attached person when I actually like someone so I just need to keep reminding myself that he doesn't actually owe me must at this stage.

That's true. It's hard, isn't it. Sounds like he is used to multi dating & was careless that evening.

Ilovelurchers · Yesterday 15:56

CleanShirt · Yesterday 14:33

@LiquidSquid ha no apology needed!

It's confusing because he is pretty present, talks about making plans (potentially future faking but who knows), is tactile and affectionate. I'm hyper aware I'm a very anxiously attached person when I actually like someone so I just need to keep reminding myself that he doesn't actually owe me must at this stage.

Have you openly discussed the fact that you are both dating others? Or has it not come up?

I guess it's a bit of a murky area, as everyone feels differently about it. I tend to assume they are, but sometimes guys have been shocked at this assumption.

I still wouldn't message another date while on a date, though! Or if I absolutely had to I would do it from the toilets.....

What exactly happened, were you coming back from the bar or something. Or did he just pick up his phone and start messaging right in front of you?

CleanShirt · Yesterday 16:04

Ilovelurchers · Yesterday 15:56

Have you openly discussed the fact that you are both dating others? Or has it not come up?

I guess it's a bit of a murky area, as everyone feels differently about it. I tend to assume they are, but sometimes guys have been shocked at this assumption.

I still wouldn't message another date while on a date, though! Or if I absolutely had to I would do it from the toilets.....

What exactly happened, were you coming back from the bar or something. Or did he just pick up his phone and start messaging right in front of you?

He was showing me something on his phone and it popped up! Very awkward all round and now I wish I'd said something. No chat yet but might have to have it soon. I only really have the fireman that I'm still occasionally seeing.

Also I sent a message on Thursday saying "thanks for another fun night, I really like hanging out with you" and he hearted it and went about his day 🫠

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