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Married to someone with Asperger’s/ASD/ ND: support thread 18

300 replies

Bluebellforest1 · 21/05/2026 18:55

This thread is for those of us seeking to explore the dynamics of long term relationships with our ND partners. Some of us are ND ourselves, some have ND children. It is a support thread and a safe space, it does get emotional at times. Avoid sweeping generalisations and try to keep it specific to you and your partner.

these threads have been going about 10 years now and have been a lifeline of support for many of us.

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OP posts:
Pashazade · 05/07/2026 20:43

Sadly I’m not sure the control is there at ten. DS still hasn’t found that break point at 14 although it happens less often and needs more specific triggers. Gaming frustrations being the key one.

SpecialMangeTout3 · 05/07/2026 21:19

@user0512 dh is clearly avoidant too. As a result, he never engages in any deep conversations, anything where it could become emotional or he might end up being the bad guy.
It’s very difficult because it’s impossible to know if something is an issue for him. And impossible to have a constructive discussion, to try to find a compromise or solution.

Im not sure what the answer is.

For years, I’ve tied myself in knots trying to know what he wanted from clues. Until I stopped because I burnt out really. There was no way to know what he truly wanted and I was missing the mark often.

Are you feeling you’re coping well enough or is there something specific you’re struggling with!

ThisSillySquid · 06/07/2026 05:25

My mum passed away and DH has no empathy and being very blunt. I'm crying a lot and he cope with the tears. We argue most days as i"m missing mum and feeling unsupported. I don't know if we have a future togetherr.

ThisSillySquid · 06/07/2026 06:30

I'm really missing my mum and he gives me nothing. I just want my mum back. The pain is unbearable and he is so hard.

ThisSillySquid · 06/07/2026 06:33

My heart feels like it's breaking. He is being so blunt. I just want to cry again. I miss her so much

Pashazade · 06/07/2026 09:11

@ThisSillySquid so sorry to hear that. Be gentle with yourself, the first few days are a bit of a tsunami, cry if you need to. Do you have any friends you can call on? If you know he’s going to be useless then I’d take yourself off somewhere you can have a good howl, the shower is a good place for this. You can be blunt with him and say I either need you to give me a hug or keep your opinion to yourself, my grief is normal and not something I need to modify for anyone. Hugs FlowersFlowers

SpecialMangeTout3 · 06/07/2026 15:36

@ThisSillySquid im so sorry. 🫂🫂🫂
This is such a hard place to be. Loosing your mum is had enough but having to also deal with the lack of support makes it even harder.

As @Pashazade said, do you have anyone you can lean on in RL? Friends or some family members?

I would tell him really bluntly what you need. Incl that you’d prefer him to stay quiet instead of blunt comments (if he can’t do any empathetic support).

Morrisons26 · 06/07/2026 15:49

@ThisSillySquid
Im so very sorry for the loss of your mum. It’s heart breaking, there are no words.

I found DH was unable to understand. He didn’t go to his dad’s funeral. To be fair it was in another country and required a visa but his whole family has planned in advance and got visas. He went to work instead.

I didn’t cry with him because there was no point. He made me feel worse because I had to manage my grief around his needs. HE STILL CAME FIRST and I was still bloody adapting around his needs. 😫

Who wants to manage their grief for their mum around their husband? It was the hardest thing.

We ended up splitting up as that plus the belittling and criticism of the children, plus being abandoned on the bed while he went to have dinner and I was seriously ill broke all my trust and love for him.

The message was clear: I won’t be there when the shit hits the fan. Ever.

These people can only look after themselves. They are self interested through and through. Whether it’s intentional or not, the impact on us is the same. You still feel abandoned which is not healthy.

The awful thing is it’s only when you hit rock bottom, when you truly need support and it’s then you find out: I’m on my own.

Why did I try so hard? What was the point? It’s sad and frustrating.

There’s no reciprocal relationship or flexing when you need something. It’s just all about them.

Im so sorry you’re discovering this now and I hope you have some good friends who can support you? I had to phone Cruse bereavement when I was beside myself one day.

Find support wherever you can. There are some good podcasts too to help process it when maybe you feel a bit more steady. Your GP may be able to give advice on grief counselling too. Big hugs to you 🫂

Echobelly · 06/07/2026 19:35

DH has opened some post. Which, as usual, means we find two penalty charges for parking or the increasing proliferation or poorly-marked no-car streets around London which have an extra £100 between them slapped on top because DH never opens his post and they are both now late.

I've told him next car we put me as the main driver when we buy it because I open my post more than every 6 months.

SpecialMangeTout3 · 06/07/2026 19:39

@Echobelly can you not agree that, from now on, you will be opening letters that are official looking?
Or you could change ownership of the car without waiting to get a new one?

We changed the ownership of one of our cars years ago. I was getting very fed up with dh, considering divorce and both cars, including the one I used all the time and was ‘mine’, were under dh name. It was pretty easy to do.

ThisSillySquid · 07/07/2026 12:01

I am having bereavement counselling with Cruse which is helping. DH thinks I should be over losing mum by now and back to normal life. His complete lack of empathy has driven a wedge between us. He actually rolled his eyes at me when i got upset because i was grieving.

SpecialMangeTout3 · 07/07/2026 12:38

oh that’s great you have found some support with Cruse. I hope it will carry in helping you process what’s going on there.
Im really sorry your dh is carrying on being so unsupportive.

Has your dh lost a parent before @ThisSillySquid ?

I found that when my dh lost his dad, he didn’t cry. He looked a bit out of sort for a few days and that was it. No outside sign of grieving at all. The only thing he ever commented on is a letter his dad had left him where he mentioned he wanted his ashes spread at a certain place, a place he had been with dh many years ago.
It seems it’s not unusual and that many autistic people have a ‘delayed reaction’ and process those emotions very differently,

My dh would not understand nor be able to cope with me outwardly grieving. In part because he won’t understand (see above) and because he can’t self regulate if I’m over emotional.

Im Wonderimg if some of that isn’t at play there. Your dh doesn’t understand, feels uncomfortable so it has to be you that is wrong.

Now that’s just a possible explanation.
It doesn’t change the fact you’re deeply hurt by his reaction. Nor does it change the fact you expected him to be supportive, that you need him to be there for you and he isn’t 😢😢
🫂🫂🫂

ThisSillySquid · 07/07/2026 17:09

SpecialMangeTout3 what do you mean that your DH can't self regulate? Mine definitely can't cope with me crying. He was the same when I was going through the menopause

ThisSillySquid · 07/07/2026 17:11

SpecialMangeTout3

Yes my DH lost his DF about 7 years ago. Nothing. Took the day of his funeral off and that was it. No emotional response

ThisSillySquid · 07/07/2026 18:19

How do you all cope with the loneliness of being in a relationship with a ASD DH? - my strategy is to join a lot of clubs, WI, netball, gardening etc etc..

BustyLaRoux · 07/07/2026 19:29

Hello gang! 👋

I don’t come here any more as I left my ASD partner (though we limped on for another year). For any of the old crew, would you like to know how it ended? (Sadly it didn’t end in quite the way I’d hoped)? And would you like to know where I’m at now? (I am conscious that people are going through some rough times and may not want a good news story or new people may not remember my tales of woe whilst still with exDP. I don’t want to be insensitive. Hence asking if anyone would like to know, rather than just chiming in!).

I do hope you’re all managing to navigate life with your partners. I have just dipped in and read a few of the threads. And my tuppence worth is that from experience, it can feel very shaming when someone says you should leave. We know that! We can’t or we feel we can’t. It’s not helpful to be told we should. I know people meant well when they said that, but it made me feel like shit. It’s the reason I didn’t tell people about my situation IRL. Because I knew they would tell me I should leave. So yeah, I thought there was an unspoken rule that we never said LTB. You can go on AIBU if you don’t mind hearing that.

classicslove · 07/07/2026 20:12

Hi @BustyLaRoux
I remember your threads very well, so pleased you have finally escaped. I for one would love to hear all your news.
I am going through so much at the moment with two dementia diagnosed relatives and autistic husband and birth family I really need a lift just now to show there is light on the other side.
Fantastic news!!!!!!

SeriouslyGotTheTshirt · 07/07/2026 23:43

I lost my old login so am name changed, but I’ve been the recipient of sage advice and understanding from you over the years @BustyLaRoux.

I’m delighted you don’t need to be here anymore, though I miss your wise counsel. I’d love to hear how you’re doing.

Ohdostopwafflinggeremy · Yesterday 05:12

Hi @BustyLaRoux
Please tell us your news. I for one need some positive news 🩷

BustyLaRoux · Yesterday 08:14

Aah good. I was worried it might be a bit crass to come and celebrate when the rest of you are still navigating everything.

I think in February I said I felt empowered and I didn’t need him and had ended things. And that was correct. However I’m not sure how much detail I went into prior to that.

As you all warned me, my physical health started to suffer. This started in July last year. It got worse and worse and I ended up in A&E with the pain in September. No one knew what was wrong. I had all the painkillers. Nothing worked. I had to take time off work. I was in so much pain I couldn’t walk to the end of my street. I began physio treatment thankfully and by the end of October things started to get better but then declined again in December and January. But this time although the pain wasn’t as bad as before, I developed anxiety about becoming that ill again and I walked around with a general feeling of dread and fear all the time. I actually think after years and years of living with someone whose volatile moods meant I walked on eggshells every day, policing what I said and how I said it so as not to set him off, meant my nervous system had nothing left to give. I also think perimenopause was ramping everything up. In February I started HRT and this seemed to coincide with the physio working and the pain and anxiety disappearing. I felt so much better and back to being me! I had a whole 3 weeks of feeling normal and I think that was when I last posted on here.

I should say that throughout this period of illness and anxiety (which has categorically been the worst time in my life), now-exDP gave me next to no support. In fact he moaned that I didn’t have the same interests as him anymore (by this he meant I was no longer fun-Busty) and he was also upset that I wasn’t supporting him! At Xmas he failed to buy any presents or clean/tidy his house for the onslaught of relatives due to arrive. I’d been asking him in the week leading up to Xmas whether he’d wrapped the presents (the ones I’d bought for his kids) and cleaned the house. He lied and said he had. When I arrived on Xmas eve he had done nothing at all!!! I spent Xmas day cleaning his bloody house ready for the children and his wider family to arrive on Boxing Day. He cannot organise anything. He has massive task avoidance. He lies to cover up the fact he’s done nothing. He expects other people to “support” him (meaning he’s off the hook and can go to the pub). I was livid.

So come February I felt better. I told him that was it. And I meant it. But then in March I found out he’d been seeing someone else for months behind my back when I was ill and alone most nights - as he said coming round to watch tv with me and keep me company didn’t meet his needs! When I was buying his kids Xmas presents and cleaning his house, he was starting a new relationship behind my back. 🤬

I was furious. But also so so hurt. I confronted him via text and said I knew about her and how could he betray me when I was ill and fighting for my life (slightly dramatic but that is how I felt). He said he wanted to talk. I said no, nothing to say. But he wore me down and came over to talk. I won’t go into details as it’s boring, but essentially my nervous system was in tatters by this point. I needed someone to care for me. Literally physically hold me while it all came out. And he did. And I let the possibility of him back in. He cried and said he thought I didn’t want him anymore and just felt criticised by me all the time. And to be fair, those things are true. He was sorry he’d found someone else and not told me, but he genuinely thought I wouldn’t care. (Pathetic. Head in sand. Shift blame onto me. Avoidance of difficult conversation). All I wanted though was someone to look after me after months of being in so much pain I couldn’t leave the house and sometimes wishing I wasn’t here anymore. Months of not knowing what was wrong or if I would ever get well again. My life unrecognisable. Months of being alone. And so I forgave him I’m sorry to say. I just wanted things back the way they were. I seemed to fall back in love with him again. I know you’ll all be disappointed in me. I can only explain that the betrayal after this awful period of my life did something physical to my nervous system. It’s hard to explain.

He said he wanted to get us back but had moved on with this new woman (I’d only ended things a month before!) and now he was “safe” from me!! He kept saying he needed to be safe and how I wasn’t safe. But also that he loved me and wished it could work and needed some time to think about whether it could. Stupidly I agreed to this. We even went on a couple of dates. He stayed the night. I felt we were getting back to us again. We cried and held each other all night. My nervous system felt peaceful. Finally.

But then I found out he had also been seeing the new (not so new) woman as well. Literally the morning after he stayed the night, he went home, showered and then met up with her!!!! My nervous system crashed. I went into actual physical shock, shaking and shivering, freezing cold. My brother had to come over and give me Valium! It was that bad. I’ve never experienced physical shock like it! When I asked him what on earth he was playing at, he said he really liked her (WTF?) and had no intention of stopping seeing her but that he found being with me triggering (dear lord!) and needed to pause me while he considered his options. I asked him to pause both of us and not just me, but he said that was me using emotional blackmail to control him!! And so, I consented (I know, I know) to give him a couple of days space and not message or get in touch, knowing he was with her. It was awful. And when I did eventually text and ask what was happening and all but beg him to please get back with me (really really not proud about this, but I was so desperate for care and comfort by this point), he would ignore me! Just head in the sand. And after a week or so I’d get a text saying “not ignoring you, this is just really hard”. (Except he was ignoring me and dangling me, refusing to make a decision, unable to face up to things which are hard, blaming me for criticising him rather than looking at the behaviour I was critical of).

After a couple more weeks of this (I was unable to eat or sleep or work. I lost 9lbs in March!) in early April I said enough. You either choose me today or this is done. He refused to make a decision and just said he needed to be safe and couldn’t see how we could get past our mistakes (note “our” mistakes). So that was that. The end.

April was hard. But I threw myself into the dating apps as a distraction! Wasn’t looking for a relationship, just some company and something to do. First date was far too early. Anyway, I slowly got better. My nervous system calmed down. I realised I’d had a lucky escape, and though I wanted him back on my worst days I also knew I had ended things for a reason back in February and all the many times before that. I cried every day to begin with. And then I would maybe only cry once or twice a week. And then not at all. I had a handful of first dates. Nice men but I didn’t feel like pursuing anything and would gently say thank you for a lovely time but I don’t see this going anywhere. I started to get fed up with it (online dating is such an investment of oneself! And not nearly as fun as I’d imagined it would be!!) and I was about to call time and have a break. I had one last date lined up with someone in late May and I anticipated another pleasant evening with someone I didn’t fancy. And then I planned to give it a break and just focus on being single and happy for a bit.

Well that date went amazingly. He’s perfect. Not ASD (which was top of my list and I asked him outright about that. I don’t care if that makes me ableist!!). He’s funny and kind. He doesn’t shout. He isn’t complicated. He treats women with the utmost respect. He tackles problems head on. He doesn’t put things off. His house is tidy and organised. He’s straight forward and plain speaking. Most importantly I feel safe. Finally. After years and years of being with someone who made me feel unsafe. Who made everything about him. Whose reactions I had to learn how to predict. Who took everything the wrong way. Who played victim and made out I was the problem for having feelings. It was emotional abuse for years and my nervous system paid the price eventually. I had thought I could live with it, but I realise now the silent damage that was going on behind the scenes. The feeling of safety I have now is priceless. And even if I don’t end up with this man (it’s still very early days), just the safety he brings me is such a contrast to what I was living in before, it shines an enormous spotlight on my old life. I’m in disbelief this was what I endured for so long!! I am so grateful I got out, even though the end was as protracted and weird as it was. At least it was the end.

Bizarrely xDP has not coped well! He’s still with not-new woman. In love by all accounts. And yet he sends me messages saying this is still so painful for him and how he’s really struggling and I will always be the love of his life (I’m quite sure she has no idea he sends these messages!). I don’t reply. I did have to arrange to get all my stuff back from his house. I tried to do it cleanly by saying I’ll come round at a time of his choosing and go through some bits we bought jointly and agree who’s having what. Typically he then made it as difficult as possible. Ensuring it was protracted and trying to inject emotion into it. Saying he was busy and refusing to commit to a time or day, then going on about how hard and triggering it all was for him. I was like “ok, just give me a time” and refused to be drawn into his BS!

So there you have it. I have my stuff back. The end was messy. He behaved terribly. I suffered enormously. I eventually saw the light. I healed fairly quickly though it was painful. I moved on. I met someone else. He isn’t ASD and nor would I ever date someone who was ever again. We are enjoying each other. My family love him. I am looking forward to a nice summer. I have no feelings about xDP other than “phew, I’m well out of that”. I am well and truly free. Finally.

Sigh. That was long wasn’t it?!

But yes, you guys saw me through some hideous times. It was wonderful to come to this judgement free space (mostly judgement free!) and feel seen and validated when I thought I was going mad. It’s a lifeline for so many of us. I learnt so much about myself, and so much about Autism. More than I wanted to know!!

I hope you’ll take something from this sorry but ultimately empowering tale: the nervous system is powerful and it’s keeping score. As and when you can, I hope you’ll set it free. And if you cannot leave then no judgement from me. Sometimes circumstances don’t allow it, or perhaps for other reasons you don’t want to leave. But please do listen to your body and find ways to calm that nervous system so it doesn’t end up screwing you over like mine did!!

Sending love and strength as always xx

Ohdostopwafflinggeremy · Yesterday 09:07

Oh I do like a happy ending @BustyLaRoux 💐
Really pleased you're in a much better place now.
It's such a long hard journey for most of us. Some of us make it out, some of us don't unfortunately.
Some of us lose so much of ourselves in the process. Sometimes you also find a strength that you didn't know you possessed.
You're out and thriving and that's what matters.
Have a wonderful life @BustyLaRoux ❤️

BustyLaRoux · Yesterday 09:19

Thank you waffling. 🥰 Is all well with you? xx

SpecialMangeTout3 · Yesterday 10:51

@BustyLaRoux oh I’m really happy you’ve met someone that is all you need from a partner. 🥰🥰
Whilst at the same I’m really saddened that you didn’t feel you could reach out (on here or in RL) because you’d just be told to LTB. And it was a real ordeal (both emotionally and physically/health wise) 😢😢

Can I ask a question re what helped or not helped you finally take the step to leave? I get telling someone to LTB isn’t helpful. I don’t think it is in most cases anyway. But what do you think could have helped? Hearing that xyz isn’t ok? Or something like ‘I couldn’t tolerate xyz’?

SpecialMangeTout3 · Yesterday 10:56

ThisSillySquid · 07/07/2026 17:09

SpecialMangeTout3 what do you mean that your DH can't self regulate? Mine definitely can't cope with me crying. He was the same when I was going through the menopause

I mean that he can’t cope with me being emotional. It stirs emotions/reactions in him that he can’t control. He goes into meltdown himself and just can’t cope.

And yes the loneliness is awful.
And I don’t have an answer for that. As you said, Going out, meeting up with friends, getting involved in clubs etc… is one thing you can do. I’m not sure it erases loneliness.

I think you can feel lonely in company and happy, connected whilst being alone iyswim. And that feeling lonely is often a consequence of not being seen or heard by those close to you. I’m not the best person to help you on that though

SpecialMangeTout3 · Yesterday 11:07

Also if yur dh felt ‘very little’ when his own dad died, it is quite possible he simply can’t imagine you beimg that affected (inability to put himself in someine else shoes). Add some rigidity (I’ve done things xyz way so everyone should do things the xyz way).
All of it can explain his reaction.

However, what really matters usnt tge why.
Its the fact your needs and wishes aren’t being met at all atm.
It’s tye fact you’re being hurt.
Its the fact his needs and his world views are coming first and should (according to him) be the only reasonable way of approaching things.

I think knowing it’s a disability often pushes us to try and accommodate more than we normally would. And for some of us, it goes on top of being people pleasers too.
In reality, what matters is whether our needs are met or not.